No oil pressure for 30 secs on cold start
#1
Three Wheelin'
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No oil pressure for 30 secs on cold start
Consistently these past three mornings, on each start up the oil light will come on (and read 0 oil pressure) for about 30 secs, and then everything will go back to normal.
I know there is nothing wrong with the gauge because I hear the lifters making noise until the gauge indicates that I have oil pressure. When it comes up to normal, the gauge indicates between 4 and 5 bar cold, and then it comes down to 2.5-3 bar warm (which is healthy).
I did reach under the car last night to make sure the 24mm bolt on the crank was tight... I was kinda hoping to find it loose.
Any ideas on what I should do? Should I check the oil pressure relief valve? I can only work on my car on Sunday, since the rest of my week is busy.
I'd appreciate any input, thanks.
I know there is nothing wrong with the gauge because I hear the lifters making noise until the gauge indicates that I have oil pressure. When it comes up to normal, the gauge indicates between 4 and 5 bar cold, and then it comes down to 2.5-3 bar warm (which is healthy).
I did reach under the car last night to make sure the 24mm bolt on the crank was tight... I was kinda hoping to find it loose.
Any ideas on what I should do? Should I check the oil pressure relief valve? I can only work on my car on Sunday, since the rest of my week is busy.
I'd appreciate any input, thanks.
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My 86 was doing that, ended up removing the OPRV, replacing it with one I picked up as part of another purchase, and the problem was solved.
When I would shut the car off after a short drive, it would hold pressure for about 6 hours, but if I shut it off after a long drive where the OPRV would open completely, I could go out and start it an hour later, and the pressure would already have leaked down, and would take 15 secs or so to build pressure again.
When I would shut the car off after a short drive, it would hold pressure for about 6 hours, but if I shut it off after a long drive where the OPRV would open completely, I could go out and start it an hour later, and the pressure would already have leaked down, and would take 15 secs or so to build pressure again.
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Did it do that before the oil change? What filter did you use? 30 seconds is still a long time even if the anti drain back valve in the filter isn't working. I'd start by changing the filter and chek the OPRV operation. It may have some sludge on it and be sticking a bit when cold. Pull it out and clean it up real good.
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#9
30 is WAY to long.
4-5 seconds to build after sitting for a long period (winter months for example)
Something is gong on. Agree with Himsel for starters, may have a filter with a defective valve, or wrong filter. Start there.
4-5 seconds to build after sitting for a long period (winter months for example)
Something is gong on. Agree with Himsel for starters, may have a filter with a defective valve, or wrong filter. Start there.
#10
Three Wheelin'
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Yea, seeing that red light on for more than a second bothers me. This morning, it took almost 30 secs to get oil pressure. I was reaching for the ignition, ready to shut it down and to tow it into work, when it finally built up pressure...
Saturday afternoon was dead here in the shop (for once!), so I grabbed my car and threw it up on the lift.
I tried swapping the oil filter for an original one, no dice.
I then removed the oil filter again, and fed motor oil through a funnel through the orifice (hoping to saturate the pump). Reinstall filter, start the engine,and I have oil pressure immediately
After checking the price of a new Oil pressure relief valve, $250.00... OUCH!
I removed the OPR, and the piston wouldnt come out easy. I cleaned the valve, spring, and the passage. I also installed a 1.5mm washer behind the spring, hoping to add some oil pressure. Everything is ok now, thanks for your help guys.
I noticed that the new OPRs are one piece, has anyone installed one of those?
Saturday afternoon was dead here in the shop (for once!), so I grabbed my car and threw it up on the lift.
I tried swapping the oil filter for an original one, no dice.
I then removed the oil filter again, and fed motor oil through a funnel through the orifice (hoping to saturate the pump). Reinstall filter, start the engine,and I have oil pressure immediately
After checking the price of a new Oil pressure relief valve, $250.00... OUCH!
I removed the OPR, and the piston wouldnt come out easy. I cleaned the valve, spring, and the passage. I also installed a 1.5mm washer behind the spring, hoping to add some oil pressure. Everything is ok now, thanks for your help guys.
I noticed that the new OPRs are one piece, has anyone installed one of those?
#11
Three Wheelin'
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Damn, it happened again. I cleaned it once again, installed it , and it was okay for another week.
I just went out and bought the one piece OPR valve... at $250 it hurt!
I just went out and bought the one piece OPR valve... at $250 it hurt!
#12
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You did the right thing. The oil thermostat housing may have come out of alignment, causing the 3-piece unit to hang up, but the retro one-piece is the way to go either way.