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Old 04-22-2010, 11:54 PM
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Ordered my set a few weeks ago from a local Porsche garage, $2375 shipped. They were out of stock, 3 week lead time from Germany (need to be built). I was quoted something like $2250 from Autotalent in CA, but i had trouble getting in contact with them when i wanted to order. I figured it was also easier to deal with a place local to me, so just went with them instead.

Thankfully there are more distributors popping up state side. I remember a year or two ago only a handful of places were around.
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:58 PM
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Spring rates, t.bar delete?
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Don't let the collars seize up on your V3s. They use a plastic nut for the wrench and are easily broken when you apply pressure to try and get them to turn.
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:15 AM
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I found a vendor for < $2100 shipped ... don't know how many they have or anything though
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Joel8005 View Post
Spring rates, t.bar delete?
Joel, I've looked at removing Tbars and they will cope with quite a lot higher spring rate than stock. However they did also say that as they're not designed to run without Tbars they could need some re-inforcement. Pretty sure that there are some guys running these without TBs and I haven't heard of malfunctions, but I'd check them out just to see where there could be an issue. Perhaps you could run with a 10mm hollow Tbar also? As far as rates to go with a full coilover, well you just have to calculate what you think you need. As I've mentioned elsewhere, people have used such different rates that it's hard to determine what is 'right'. KW seem to go with just under 2 to 1 front to rear balance of effective rates.

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Old 04-23-2010, 03:45 AM
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Who has used the KW Clubsports? They're about a 550 front spring aren't they? I have heard the KWs may be a little soft for the track due to the non-linear spring rates. The clubsports are linear right? Would they be OK for street as well as track? I currently run 350 front with koni sports and they don't seem to harsh at all, so I'd guess the clubsports with their faster shock damping for small bumps may be similar.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:01 AM
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Excuse my ignorance Eric but when you say non linear, do you mean progressive?

I don't know anyone who has run the clubsports. My 2 ways are a constant radius spring or what I imagine you mean by linear. Fronts are 628lb. Rod / Thingo has just bought some 850lb springs for his V3s.
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 333pg333 View Post
Excuse my ignorance Eric but when you say non linear, do you mean progressive?

I don't know anyone who has run the clubsports. My 2 ways are a constant radius spring or what I imagine you mean by linear. Fronts are 628lb. Rod / Thingo has just bought some 850lb springs for his V3s.
Yes - the KWs (V3s) I think are progressive, or non-linear. I would have thought that 850lb/in springs for V3s would be beyond the adjustment range of the V3s?
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:01 AM
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hmmm well generally good set up with have slightly more sway bar rate then spring rate so how do you expect to achieve a 900lb sway bar rate ?
and the way you guys run the sway bar on the control arm i imagine it would require about 1400lb sway bar ..
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Oz_S2 View Post
Who has used the KW Clubsports?
If I had it to do over again I would get the Moton Club Sports. We use them on our other conversion and they have none of the issues that the KWs have, and are much better quality.

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Old 04-23-2010, 10:54 AM
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Mine are 2 ways actually, not V3, think they can just cope with 850.
Kw use linear springs.Pretty sure the kw clubsports are the same as mine.
100 nm (~570lbs) front is completely streetable more comfortable than M030.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Oz_S2 View Post
Yes - the KWs (V3s) I think are progressive, or non-linear.
Where did you read this?
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 333pg333 View Post
I think V3s are available for about $2200US? I've heard somewhere near $5k+ for them down here.
I got mine from the UK. Cost me about AUD$2000 all up incl. shipping. UK is often cheaper than buying from the US at the moment as the GBP is weak.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:56 AM
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wow where from mark ?? thats an amazing price .. i found royal mail UK more expensive per kg than USPS but i did get a good rear wing for about 300 landed ..
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i think a lot of people don't release ride quality is more about shocks than springs
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