a few parts I wish someone would make
11-30-2007, 05:01 PM
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That said, 380 sure would SOUND allot better than $400..
11-30-2007, 05:18 PM
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I am the type of guy that if i can safe money and go the extra mile to do it then I will. You can ask anybody here. Sheeet thats the reason reason why i do my own work and work on other peoples car to save money and get money, but there is just somethings i am willing to pay extra and i dont mind it because 1 i am doing my own work which is automattically paying for the part it self (100 hr labor) I konw i use to work a porsche shop and if you can get it cheaper than that i would check twice, so technically it comes out for free, 2 tools are for free because i made my on them years ago, 3 they already when thru the hassle of making it fit and all the troubles that comes with it. So its a win win thing you can't lose. Just because your doing the work your self that part is basically for free.
Look at that guy who paid over 5k for head gasket job and timing belt job. I did my headgasket in the middle of Nelson ledges with basic tools nothing fancy i didnt deck the head nor block reused everything autozone/homedeopt exhaust nuts and bolts for like 200 bucks with the help of boost doc. just from that iam saving almost a G. the money thats I am saving is going to go to my exhaust. BTW my car now runs better lol and i make good *** power.
So dont worry about spending extra in some places your saving it by doing other things and doing the job your self.
Or you can be like Lart and own a Honda S2000 with type R v-tec when you can grab everything from Ebay
Look at that guy who paid over 5k for head gasket job and timing belt job. I did my headgasket in the middle of Nelson ledges with basic tools nothing fancy i didnt deck the head nor block reused everything autozone/homedeopt exhaust nuts and bolts for like 200 bucks with the help of boost doc. just from that iam saving almost a G. the money thats I am saving is going to go to my exhaust. BTW my car now runs better lol and i make good *** power.
So dont worry about spending extra in some places your saving it by doing other things and doing the job your self.
Or you can be like Lart and own a Honda S2000 with type R v-tec when you can grab everything from Ebay
11-30-2007, 05:22 PM
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Yeah and don't forget, Lart made over 300whp on a k26/6 and nothing else so I think we know who is the real SUPA TUNA!!!!
11-30-2007, 05:22 PM
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Evil944T, I respect that you think it cant be done. I like that you included the machine shop lights and hours and etc. however should we be including the cost of the machinist's breakfast too? Seriously, he can't do his job without breakfast. POINT being you have to draw the line somewhere. I just don't like where it's been drawn for one reason or another. MOre importantly you forgot to divide the cost of those expenses by X amount of parts a vendor sells. But thats not really the way it works because I can buy certain parts which I know have a very different (less) mark up. Perhaps most importantly I would hope at least we can be open minded about this so we don't end up being hypocrits, because I know when someone does make a quality intake or DP for less you're not going to be turning your head becuase you feel like they haven't made their cut.
Thats for 1 set! No breakfast or hourly wage or skills or equipement. Should we not charge for that?
GOOD LUCK.
IF IT HAPPENS, You'll never see me turn my head. You will see me open my wallet and buy one because its cheaper than I can do it. I have no problem with that. If its something you want to tackle, let me know when your done. perhaps I'll buy one.
You are living in a fantasy world. Your comparing a hobby to a business. This is a very limited market. Hondas and p-cars, apple and oranges. The only way it could be done is if someone casts 100 of them. Will you buy 70 of them because I can't see more than 30 people buying them.
11-30-2007, 05:24 PM
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Evil944T, I respect that you think it cant be done. I like that you included the machine shop lights and hours and etc. however should we be including the cost of the machinist's breakfast too? Seriously, he can't do his job without breakfast. POINT being you have to draw the line somewhere. I just don't like where it's been drawn for one reason or another. MOre importantly you forgot to divide the cost of those expenses by X amount of parts a vendor sells. But thats not really the way it works because I can buy certain parts which I know have a very different (less) mark up. Perhaps most importantly I would hope at least we can be open minded about this so we don't end up being hypocrits, because I know when someone does make a quality intake or DP for less you're not going to be turning your head becuase you feel like they haven't made their cut.
11-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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11-30-2007, 06:38 PM
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there are compromises to I'm set for DC TIG at home for $600 so i will do my exhaust but inlet but i will spend a day or 2 jigsawing it out after looking at everyone else's and pay 100 to have it welded .
there realy are pleanty of options even in a backwater county with 10% your population.
there realy are pleanty of options even in a backwater county with 10% your population.
12-01-2007, 06:40 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Umf2Dl0bfY
$475
Yea, we don't get ripped off here in the Porsche world :/
-Fishey
http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalo...&reviews_id=10
$475
Yea, we don't get ripped off here in the Porsche world :/
-Fishey
http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalo...&reviews_id=10
12-01-2007, 07:54 AM
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Hey cool vid in that Youtube link. Some of the guys who think it's easy should just look at that. I wonder on the 'Boxy' design of the plenum though? I don't know enough to say otherwise but I'd be concerned of the even flow to all the cylinders. I'm prepared to be illuminated though.
12-01-2007, 08:06 AM
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That's so easy I could do that intake with my black & decker drill and reciprocal saw in my garage.
12-01-2007, 11:30 AM
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$475
Yea, we don't get ripped off here in the Porsche world :/
-Fishey
http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalo...&reviews_id=10
Yea, we don't get ripped off here in the Porsche world :/
-Fishey
http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalo...&reviews_id=10
Someone please call JMF and find out how many they made and have to sell to be able to offer them at $475. Also ask them how much that mill costs. Oh wait, I forgot we are not supposed to charge for machine usage, that should all be on the shops dime..
Why doesn't someone produce one and let us all know how to do it. I'm done with my rant, continue posting..
12-01-2007, 11:49 AM
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This is from JMF's website. Pricing on this unit is fairly close to what we can get intakes for. SFR intakes start at $949 and LR starts at $1099. JMF will sell hundreds more of their intakes in their market over what SFR, LR, and other vendors will sell for the 951 cars. Porsche stuff will always cost more than the rice performance manufacturers. Paying a few hundred bucks more is simply what the market will bear, plus the intakes for 951's use much more material than the 2.0 cars. Call JMF and ask them what they would charge to COPY one of the intakes from SFR or LR. You will be surprised at what they will charge. You will find that we are getting a great product for a fair price.
EVO 7/8/9 Sheetmetal Intake Manifold
- Additional Injector Bungs NO
- Extra Vacuum Port (5 standard) +0
- NOS Bungs NO
- OEM Map Sensor Mount YES
- Polished YES
- Throttle Body Flange Stock
$700.00
EVO 7/8/9 Sheetmetal Intake Manifold
- Additional Injector Bungs NO
- Extra Vacuum Port (5 standard) +0
- NOS Bungs NO
- OEM Map Sensor Mount YES
- Polished YES
- Throttle Body Flange Stock
$700.00
12-01-2007, 03:57 PM
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please stop, you guys are hurting my feelings, no of course not. Hey Dave, "YOU LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD!"......um.... yeah it didn't do much for me either. You have to look at my perspective. I'm reading this from someone with what looks like their superhero as an avatar. Not exactly an argument I would try to make but I'm sure it's just me. A few of you guys shouldn't try so hard to make enemies, it's not worth the trouble. I'm all about sharing information and even disagreeing but I don't get talking crap to someone you don't know. Should I be crying right now? On a serious note, Dave did you get beat up alot with a mouth like that... if not it's probably because you do all your trash talking in your "fantasy world". Lets just stick to what were good at. I'll keep brain storming for new and different ways to benifit the P-community and you think of some good come back lines. Don't be sad if I don't respond.