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Old 02-05-2007, 07:08 PM
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For some reason, upon acceleration, it seems my car doesn't accelerate smoothly in 3rd gear, it seems to hold back or even pause if even for a split second. I hit 7 lbs. in first, 10 in second and 12 in third, I have a MAF with a MBC and stock wastegate, what could it be?
Old 02-05-2007, 07:14 PM
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At what rpms does it seem to hold back?
Old 02-05-2007, 07:25 PM
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has the car been sitting for a while? check ignition
Old 02-05-2007, 07:36 PM
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Sounds like a classic weak ignition due to plugs, cap, rotor, or/and very often, plug wires! I trust it does the same in 4th and 5th if you floor it below 3K rpms.
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The car is a weekend car, but I usually take it out Wednesdays, to narrow the gap in between, I recently got a new TPS and 3 bar FPR, it usually does it between 4-5K rpm as it is climbing, yes, it does do it in 4th and often 5th. I got a new distributor cap, rotor, plugs and wires back in September...
Old 02-05-2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LFA951
The car is a weekend car, but I usually take it out Wednesdays, to narrow the gap in between, I recently got a new TPS and 3 bar FPR, it usually does it between 4-5K rpm as it is climbing, yes, it does do it in 4th and often 5th. I got a new distributor cap, rotor, plugs and wires back in September...
Are your chips/fuel computer tuned for the 3 bar FPR?
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They are Pro Flo chips and MAF, just threw them on, my mechanic tried out the 8 different settings on the fuel quality **** in the back of the computer, put decided to leave it on the first one which is 0-0, said it felt best on that factory setting, backfired and cut out on other settings as I recall. How do you tune them?
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Originally Posted by LFA951
They are Pro Flo chips and MAF, just threw them on, my mechanic tried out the 8 different settings on the fuel quality **** in the back of the computer, put decided to leave it on the first one which is 0-0, said it felt best on that factory setting, backfired and cut out on other settings as I recall. How do you tune them?
get a new mechanic
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You'd need to get a wideband O2 sensor or do some dyno runs to see what's going on with your air-fuel ratio. Do you know if the chips were intended for that MAF? And, do you know if the chips were designed to run with 3 bar fuel pressure? Might be better off putting it back to the stock chips and air flow meter until you can control over the a/f ratios.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
You'd need to get a wideband O2 sensor or do some dyno runs to see what's going on with your air-fuel ratio. Do you know if the chips were intended for that MAF? And, do you know if the chips were designed to run with 3 bar fuel pressure? Might be better off putting it back to the stock chips and air flow meter until you can control over the a/f ratios.
The chips came with the MAF and my mechanic said that I need to get the screw on the MAF adjusted by someone with a O2 analyzer, so they can even out the air/fuel ratio and the guy at Promotion who sold me the MAF said I can run the Bosch 3 bar with it, since it is a "rising rate" FPR as he put it. I am going to look for a shop with a wideband O2 sensor in my area, I think Foreign affairs, German Performance or JCM Performance might have them, thanks for the advice!
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There's a shop in Delray beach, Diablo motorsports, my cousin runs the dyno, I could set something up on a saturday or something, I'd have to check his schedule and when he's available.
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Originally Posted by tman
There's a shop in Delray beach, Diablo motorsports, my cousin runs the dyno, I could set something up on a saturday or something, I'd have to check his schedule and when he's available.
Delray Beach is like 45 minutes from me, there's a Dyno shop here by my house, but I think he only gives you the readings, don't know if he actually adjusts it, I'll call him tomorrow...
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A typical dyno shop will let you see what your a/f ratio is when you floor it to redline, but will not have any real way to adjust the a/f curve. To adjust your a/f curve, you generally need to replace the chips or get a piggyback fuel computer. Adjusting fuel pressure and/or playing with the fuel settings on the DME can bring the whole curve up of down across the board -- which doesn't help if you have a lean or rich spot in an otherwise ok curve.

BTW, did it always stumble when you floor it in 3rd after adding those parts(which would suggest a tuning problem); or did it just start acting up (which would suggest something went bad)?
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It doesn't always do it, it does it mostly when it's real windy, like on the freeway, it felt nice the other day on a narrow stretch with a lot of trees on the sides and not much wind resistance...



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