UK 3.2 Turbo hits the road
12-24-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Diver944
LIL was on slicks and G498 was on Pirelli P-Zero C track tyres, It was a 4 hour evening session a few years ago when it had been raining all day long (A GT2 totalled itself dring the day in heavy rain 
). We both live a few minutes away from the circuit so brought our dry tyres, but the other guys lived a few hours away and thought there was no point as it would still be raining .
Part of the fun in tracking old 80's machinery like ours is passing the modern expensive cars. If we go out at the front of the session you have to do a few laps before you lap them. Starting at the back you have people to pass straight away
I haven't driven on track since May 2005 - I have a lot of re-learning to do
). We both live a few minutes away from the circuit so brought our dry tyres, but the other guys lived a few hours away and thought there was no point as it would still be raining .Part of the fun in tracking old 80's machinery like ours is passing the modern expensive cars. If we go out at the front of the session you have to do a few laps before you lap them. Starting at the back you have people to pass straight away
I haven't driven on track since May 2005 - I have a lot of re-learning to do
12-24-2006, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
Rennlist seems like quite a cool place to hang out, lots of great projects going on, if I am welcome I will stick around!
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12-24-2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver944
Part of the fun in tracking old 80's machinery like ours is passing the modern expensive cars. If we go out at the front of the session you have to do a few laps before you lap them. Starting at the back you have people to pass straight away
I haven't driven on track since May 2005 - I have a lot of re-learning to do
I haven't driven on track since May 2005 - I have a lot of re-learning to do
Paul easily passing 996TTs --->
12-24-2006, 01:54 PM
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Did I miss the tire/wheel setup he is using..... .
). It's actually impressed me a lot that I can be doing 70 in 5th, floor the throttle and watch the rev counter zoom round to circa 5000rpm with the back scrabbling like mad, yet the car just continues to go forwards in a straight line with very little drama.
I shan't be trying that very often though
12-24-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver944
I'm currently on 255/40/17 for the street and 245/45/16 slicks for the track. It's only the very greasy/cold roads that are causing problems at the moment (maybe
12-24-2006, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
We are working on that at the moment... Paul's engine is the first of its kind, so we are watching it closely before we commit to completing the number 2 engine which is almost built and waiting to go into another 944 turbo.. The last thing we want to do is get too excited patting each other on the back and making several of these and then having to recall them all to make a modification.
Also, we do not want to be seen as spamming or abusing a forum, so we would have to check the rules here before we even thought about printing prices in answer to the requests in this thread.
We are talking about offering 3.2's (as well as 2.5's, 2.8's and 3.0's) in several configurations (sleeved or not sleeved in the case of 2.5's and 2.8's) , with several optional extras (piston squirters or not for example) in fully assembled, short engine or kit form including just what parts you need.
First of all though, we just want to make sure that Paul's engine does not self destruct, has a teething problem or anything else before we start getting confident!
We are also working on some other variations of capacity and 16 valve versions... we are also keen to see how far we can push the boundaries of max RPM, again with the help of some helpful friends in F1 as one of our future targets.. But thats all I can say about that for now!
Also, we do not want to be seen as spamming or abusing a forum, so we would have to check the rules here before we even thought about printing prices in answer to the requests in this thread.
We are talking about offering 3.2's (as well as 2.5's, 2.8's and 3.0's) in several configurations (sleeved or not sleeved in the case of 2.5's and 2.8's) , with several optional extras (piston squirters or not for example) in fully assembled, short engine or kit form including just what parts you need.
First of all though, we just want to make sure that Paul's engine does not self destruct, has a teething problem or anything else before we start getting confident!
We are also working on some other variations of capacity and 16 valve versions... we are also keen to see how far we can push the boundaries of max RPM, again with the help of some helpful friends in F1 as one of our future targets.. But thats all I can say about that for now!
I know im interested. Maybe become a site sponser and go from there. I've got some change saved for a vitesse turbo kit and ems system but, I might just wait another year and put more with it for a entire new motor.
keep us updated please. I know alot of people are very interested in this.
12-25-2006, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by porshhhh951
I have a feeling rennlist is about to bring you alot of new business. I know im interested. I've got some change saved for a vitesse turbo kit and ems system but, I might just wait another year and put more with it for a entire new motor.
12-25-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luis de Prat
What an awesome engine build. It's looking like the 951 concept still has a lot to show for itself despite being a 20-year-old Porsche!
12-25-2006, 09:19 PM
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Very nice build.
Did you consider doing the 3.3 build? using the 3.0 crank?
You went thru alot of trouble and expense to build HP so why not do the bigger motor since you already had the crank?
Can you compare the Darton sleeve which is easier for us US guys to get vs. the nikasil sleeves you are using. What was the cost of the sleeves installed? Pistons?
Great thread ........I look forward to your answers and your progress.............
Did you consider doing the 3.3 build? using the 3.0 crank?
You went thru alot of trouble and expense to build HP so why not do the bigger motor since you already had the crank?
Can you compare the Darton sleeve which is easier for us US guys to get vs. the nikasil sleeves you are using. What was the cost of the sleeves installed? Pistons?
Great thread ........I look forward to your answers and your progress.............
12-25-2006, 10:52 PM
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This engine did use the 3.0 crank with a 108mm bore, which some would call a 3.3, we round it down to 3.2
We didnt use the darton sleeve because we tried them for the 3.2 They work well for every other capacity but for the 3.2 bore size we didnt like the look of block once hogged out to recieve the 108mm darton, we also found a couple of other issues which become apparent when prepping the block for a 108mm darton.... So we opted to have our own sleeve made which overcame this issue as well as some other issues... Part of a very time consuming and expensive learning curve.
At the same time as having a our own sleeve made, we went for the nickel ceramic coating due to previous excellent results from this coating, both for its thermal benefits, quick running in time and durability.
We didnt use the darton sleeve because we tried them for the 3.2 They work well for every other capacity but for the 3.2 bore size we didnt like the look of block once hogged out to recieve the 108mm darton, we also found a couple of other issues which become apparent when prepping the block for a 108mm darton.... So we opted to have our own sleeve made which overcame this issue as well as some other issues... Part of a very time consuming and expensive learning curve.
At the same time as having a our own sleeve made, we went for the nickel ceramic coating due to previous excellent results from this coating, both for its thermal benefits, quick running in time and durability.
12-26-2006, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Diver944
I'm currently on 255/40/17 for the street and 245/45/16 slicks for the track....I can be doing 70 in 5th, floor the throttle and watch the rev counter zoom round to circa 5000rpm with the back scrabbling like mad,
How much power are you putting down? You need more rubber my friend...a 285 MINIMUM!
12-26-2006, 02:12 AM
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And there you were calling 275's girly but 285's will do?lol Unless someone does what you've done which is alter the bodywork, then let's hope the 285/295's work?
I hope so as doing the bodywork looks like a pretty major expense once you get the car painted again.
I hope so as doing the bodywork looks like a pretty major expense once you get the car painted again.