smlporsche

Just an observation:
As stated above they don't appear to be adjustable and they have rubber bushings in the rear as well as the tops on the fronts..
In that respect they are no way near as good as my Leda's

reno808

All i know that KW for VOLKSWAGON SUCK i use to work at a aftermarket shop and we were a retailer for KW and all we got was return KW blown SHOCKS

reno808

I mean COILOVERRS and they love to rust and curroad....

reno808

H&R's are $1500?????????????????????????????????????

reno808

wait how about a small group buy

OZ951

No they are not $1500. They are $2680.

blodstrupmoen

It says rustfrei on the website ... ?

.. ~1500 Euros it is ........

Sam Lin

WTF are you talking about? And why are you post whoring 4 times instead of putting all your incoherent babble into one post?

Sam

tedesco

reno, no idea what you are talking about maybe not about H+R suspension. As I already posted before the H+R shocks are in a different class at least compared to Koni or stock suspension. I am running them now in all day traffic for 2 years on one car and for one year on another 951 and they still look like new. Before I made my decision I had a look at the KW Variante 3 suspension as well but I did not like the design of the damping adjustment at the rear. It looked like prone to failure. On the other hand I heard that they perform quite well too but are not suited to track use as good as the H+R ones. To set up an order it means

Stock
konis (M030)
KW V3
H+R "nordschleife"
H+R Cup (like Bilstein cup)

Don´t know where to put the Lead due to lack of own experience but you can get them valved to your own liking. In terms of manufacturing quality the Lead shocks I have seen would be below H+R. Can´t say anything about durability.

reno808

sorry about my post. weird time. However i was takling about KW suspension being bad.... I wouldnt take the KW if they were free... H&R is a different story they are one of the best..

333pg333

No I actually bought what they call the 2-way race system. It's actually 3 way adjustable but they custom make it for you. I did a bit of research and found about the brand on UK websites. I was going to get the V3's but my focus is for the track for the next few years. The spring rates are fairly serious. 616 lb/in f and 706 rear! This will indeed be a test on the road but they ride very comfortably in another car that I've been in so here's hoping I retain my dental work after they're installed lol. I am in Sydney, Australia. I bought it through the local agent here but was in contact with a guy in the tech dept in Germany. You fill out an order form which asks you basic specifics and wait about 4 weeks and they turn up to your door. They look very sexy too just by the way. I'll post some photos in the near future.

PS Reno you've got to stop hitting the tequila and then the keyboard. As for the KW's being so bad, well there are a lot of very satisfied customers in the UK where they put salt on their roads and would be very prone to rust. The entire shaft is made from stainless steel and rust isn't such a problem down under. The UK guys also love them for road/race and the brand is very successful in Europe on the track.

PPS P-file sorry about that long winded email the other night. Thanks for advice to date on this site.

Porschefile

KW's are stainless steel. That is physically impossible.

There are plenty of big names and successful, race-winning cars using KW suspension so I think that speaks for itself.

Why buy coilovers if they don't have adjustable dampening or rebound? Seriously, you'd be better off going with Koni's and doing the ARHK conversion and save a good $1-1.5k. If I was paying $1.5-2k+ for coilovers that weren't even adjustable, then they better have been valved by God himself otherwise it's a waste IMO.

reno808

Well i am just telling you so you can watch out thats all. its only my .02 cents...

Sam Lin

Noone is better off going with Konis.

Sam

pole position

FYI, stainless steel DOES rust....