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07-14-2006, 05:07 PM
#46
Originally Posted by 944J
I agree, but they provide a service that not many do, correct or can you get the same thing elsewhere for less?
07-14-2006, 09:38 PM
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"I know a few people I'd rather have do the work on my car than them"
I know one. Chris White. Only because I believe I'd get comparable build quality. Otherwise, I'd go with Millege, or Scott Gomez, for even more money.
Last, I got a warranty. I don't know anyone else giving that. Plus again, I believe you get what you pay for. I know you do all your own work. Wish I could but I know I drive my car hard, a lot. Almost daily and I haven't put a dime into it in over five years. Almost six. The fact that I'm on my fourth motor is this. First motor blown while under David's care, not even in his shop. Warranty. Free labor, I just pick the parts. Stand up guy. Honest to a fault.
Second motor, independent porsche tech accidentally put the wrong plugs in during routine maintenance. They chiped in, I decided to upgrade, and David took my parts in on trade and still gave me a discount. Third motor, I blew to high hell by not breaking in the motor properly. Fourth, still got it. Almost bulletproof. At $65 an hour labor, David's even cheaper than Chris White. Finally, I'll say it again, you get what you pay for. I did.
"I know a few people I'd rather have do the work on my car than them"
I know one. Chris White. Only because I believe I'd get comparable build quality. Otherwise, I'd go with Millege, or Scott Gomez, for even more money.
Last, I got a warranty. I don't know anyone else giving that. Plus again, I believe you get what you pay for. I know you do all your own work. Wish I could but I know I drive my car hard, a lot. Almost daily and I haven't put a dime into it in over five years. Almost six. The fact that I'm on my fourth motor is this. First motor blown while under David's care, not even in his shop. Warranty. Free labor, I just pick the parts. Stand up guy. Honest to a fault.
Second motor, independent porsche tech accidentally put the wrong plugs in during routine maintenance. They chiped in, I decided to upgrade, and David took my parts in on trade and still gave me a discount. Third motor, I blew to high hell by not breaking in the motor properly. Fourth, still got it. Almost bulletproof. At $65 an hour labor, David's even cheaper than Chris White. Finally, I'll say it again, you get what you pay for. I did.
07-14-2006, 09:56 PM
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all I know is that that black 951 is one of the nicest looking 944's ever.
Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
Quote from MPD47
"I know a few people I'd rather have do the work on my car than them"
I know one. Chris White. Only because I believe I'd get comparable build quality. Otherwise, I'd go with Millege, or Scott Gomez, for even more money.
Last, I got a warranty. I don't know anyone else giving that. Plus again, I believe you get what you pay for. I know you do all your own work. Wish I could but I know I drive my car hard, a lot. Almost daily and I haven't put a dime into it in over five years. Almost six. The fact that I'm on my fourth motor is this. First motor blown while under David's care, not even in his shop. Warranty. Free labor, I just pick the parts. Stand up guy. Honest to a fault.
Second motor, independent porsche tech accidentally put the wrong plugs in during routine maintenance. They chiped in, I decided to upgrade, and David took my parts in on trade and still gave me a discount. Third motor, I blew to high hell by not breaking in the motor properly. Fourth, still got it. Almost bulletproof. At $65 an hour labor, David's even cheaper than Chris White. Finally, I'll say it again, you get what you pay for. I did.
"I know a few people I'd rather have do the work on my car than them"
I know one. Chris White. Only because I believe I'd get comparable build quality. Otherwise, I'd go with Millege, or Scott Gomez, for even more money.
Last, I got a warranty. I don't know anyone else giving that. Plus again, I believe you get what you pay for. I know you do all your own work. Wish I could but I know I drive my car hard, a lot. Almost daily and I haven't put a dime into it in over five years. Almost six. The fact that I'm on my fourth motor is this. First motor blown while under David's care, not even in his shop. Warranty. Free labor, I just pick the parts. Stand up guy. Honest to a fault.
Second motor, independent porsche tech accidentally put the wrong plugs in during routine maintenance. They chiped in, I decided to upgrade, and David took my parts in on trade and still gave me a discount. Third motor, I blew to high hell by not breaking in the motor properly. Fourth, still got it. Almost bulletproof. At $65 an hour labor, David's even cheaper than Chris White. Finally, I'll say it again, you get what you pay for. I did.
07-14-2006, 11:54 PM
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The main thing to remenber is that we should be very happy to see this types of developments in our cars. I know their are other cheaper ways of getting those lowly "370 hp", but the point, like so many of others have said,is fact that they can. And most inportant is to remain us that anything is possible. Who knows, maybe the next time we get some info on this project , it will be making twice as much power.
Finally, I remember a time in the 1980's when a 1.5L, twin-turbo 4 cylinder engine, that was making around 800 Bhp, won the most important world championship, so the concept is a proven one.
Regards,
AL
Finally, I remember a time in the 1980's when a 1.5L, twin-turbo 4 cylinder engine, that was making around 800 Bhp, won the most important world championship, so the concept is a proven one.
Regards,
AL
07-15-2006, 12:28 AM
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That motor has had to be re-blue printed. 944s motors were 10.9:1 compression while 951 motors were 8:1 compression. Lower compression allows for the tubos pressure. I would If they used Turbo length rods and J&E's?
07-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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Hi there,
our company is called CLUBSPORT (www.clubsport.nl) and we are the Dutch importer for 9ff which asked specificly to 9ff to bring a car that is still in a development fase (therefore it did not run)
Mechanically the car is ready, it was the electronics which were not done yet.
Because of the high number of 944 cars in the Netherlands we wanted to car on our stand
on the Dutch Porsche Days on the Circuit of Zandvoort.
The car is an 944S2 3.0 liter engine which was converted to Biturbo using 2 small hybrid turbo's of 9ff specifications. It is indeed build to see if it could be done!
If you have questions we are happy to give info on it.
CLUBSPORT
Alexander Beenen
our company is called CLUBSPORT (www.clubsport.nl) and we are the Dutch importer for 9ff which asked specificly to 9ff to bring a car that is still in a development fase (therefore it did not run)
Mechanically the car is ready, it was the electronics which were not done yet.
Because of the high number of 944 cars in the Netherlands we wanted to car on our stand
on the Dutch Porsche Days on the Circuit of Zandvoort.
The car is an 944S2 3.0 liter engine which was converted to Biturbo using 2 small hybrid turbo's of 9ff specifications. It is indeed build to see if it could be done!
If you have questions we are happy to give info on it.
CLUBSPORT
Alexander Beenen
07-19-2006, 06:29 PM
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A beautiful arragement for the rear spoiler!
A 996 GT2 blade with custom mounts?
Much nicer than the other GT2 blade installations I've seen on 944's.
A 996 GT2 blade with custom mounts?
Much nicer than the other GT2 blade installations I've seen on 944's.
07-19-2006, 11:31 PM
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Nice pics Mike!
I don't think I read anywhere the explaination of that "hood treatment." It's a mirror guys, take a look at the reflection, also, the position of the "hole" on the front of the hood in relation to the engine, which is situated more towards the rear of the engine bay.
That rear spoiler is KILLER!
The Kid,
I don't think I read anywhere the explaination of that "hood treatment." It's a mirror guys, take a look at the reflection, also, the position of the "hole" on the front of the hood in relation to the engine, which is situated more towards the rear of the engine bay.
That rear spoiler is KILLER!
The Kid,
07-20-2006, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 944kid
I don't think I read anywhere the explaination of that "hood treatment." It's a mirror guys, take a look at the reflection, also, the position of the "hole" on the front of the hood in relation to the engine, which is situated more towards the rear of the engine bay.
The Kid,
The Kid,
