Still no starting
04-11-2005, 11:15 PM
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Still no starting
Well after messing around with the ref sensor and TDC sensor my car will still not start (any one who doesn't know i rebuilt the motor and this is the first time trying to start it) We are not getting any spark. We played with the two sensors for atleast 3 days. We opened up the DME relay and it looks beautiful. The DME is just fine cause we put Special Tools DME in there. We tried two different KLR chips (guru and stock)
One weird thing is that when we PULLED OUT the DME RELAY we get a rmp read on the dash. When we PUT THE DME RELAY BACK IN we get no rpm reading on the dash. Maybe the relay is just broken and it looks alright. IDK i could use any help because if we don't get it running it is going to the porsche mechanic where it will probably stay for another billion months.
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-Ian
One weird thing is that when we PULLED OUT the DME RELAY we get a rmp read on the dash. When we PUT THE DME RELAY BACK IN we get no rpm reading on the dash. Maybe the relay is just broken and it looks alright. IDK i could use any help because if we don't get it running it is going to the porsche mechanic where it will probably stay for another billion months.
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04-11-2005, 11:28 PM
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dont take offence to this, but is the ground good? I had a problem once when I raplaced a clutch on one of my cars. My budy did not ground it right and I checked cam angle sensor, crank angle.....ect and it turned out to be a bad ground. I just cleaned the connection and it started fine.
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04-11-2005, 11:34 PM
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humm... we connected the main ground to the clutch case or w/e where it mounts to stock. Maybe its all corroded. But we have interior lights and all the electric stuff works. IDK ill check if there is ant voltage going through the wire tomorrow (there should be no voltage through the ground wire correct?)
Any thing else to check for? We already jumpered the security system so thats not a problem.
Any thing else to check for? We already jumpered the security system so thats not a problem.
04-12-2005, 12:20 AM
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I had interior lights, the starter cranked.........ect everything seamed to be working fine, thats why I started replacing sensors. The main physical ground to the block/tranny was connected, to a metal braket and then to the block. Gound had continuity to the block but it was not good enough. Meticulously clean the connectors of the ground and even scuff the contact points to make a solid ground. This may not fix everything, but it will eliminate one possibility.
let me know what happens
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let me know what happens
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04-12-2005, 12:21 AM
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Try a different KLR box not just the chips.. Make sure the KLR chip is inserted properly.. If the chip is inserted wrong there is a good chance the chip will go bad..
04-12-2005, 12:37 AM
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Hey fast951. I will see if ST will let me use his klr to see if that fixes some thing. p.s. Jim put the chips in for me so i sure hope he knows what he is doing 
Ill definitely try the ground tomorrow
Ill definitely try the ground tomorrow
04-12-2005, 12:50 AM
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[QUOTE=TurboX]Jim put the chips in for me so i sure hope he knows what he is doing QUOTE]
That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
QUOTE]That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
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04-12-2005, 08:35 AM
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[QUOTE=Jeremy Himsel]
Originally Posted by TurboX
Jim put the chips in for me so i sure hope he knows what he is doing QUOTE]
That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
QUOTE]That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
04-12-2005, 02:02 PM
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[QUOTE=TurboX]Jim put the chips in for me so i sure hope he knows what he is doing QUOTE]
That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
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That explains it. Take it to PepBoys and have them reinstall the chips, it'll probably start right up.
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04-12-2005, 03:18 PM
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Does the tach jump when turning it over? If not, did you run the test on the reference sensors per Clark's Garage? www.clarks-garage.com
04-12-2005, 07:19 PM
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we just did volt testing and both of the sensors are getting a reading when the motor is turning over. the TDC sensor bolt was not down tight before but now it is and we now get a reading from it. But still no spark 
I went over and snagged Special Tools KLR but still nothing. Im afraid off to the mechanic it goes soon if this biotch dont start... why o why does my car hate me?
-Ian
I went over and snagged Special Tools KLR but still nothing. Im afraid off to the mechanic it goes soon if this biotch dont start... why o why does my car hate me? -Ian
04-12-2005, 07:27 PM
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Have you tried removing the DME relay and jumpering the connections? How about bypassing the alarm module? If the tach is not jumping then it sounds like a problem with DME relay, DME, chips, sensors or alarm module. Is the battery still strong? The DME will not turn on the fuel pump unless the car is turning over at 300 rpm or faster (jumpering the DME relay will bypass this.) 
