fast951

If the man went to the dyno and posted the results why would I doubt him. I assume you doubt his results. If it's important to you or to anyone else, why not schedule some sort of a dyno day with him, it's only fair you pay for the dyno time, and see for yourself..

As far as "catch Phrases", it's not my place to monitor what people say or don't..

fast951

Tony, I agree with you on PUMP GAS not Stage 1,2 3 will make 400rwhp or whatever... I always state, search is your best friend, that 15psi should be max on pump gas.. So what is your pointe?

Also the dyno chart on the website is at 20+psi.. Which means over 20psi.. how much more? I'll be speculating as I don't have the files.. FYI all dyno charts on the website are based on charts that customers sent in of their cars with the Vitesse products.. Unlike other vendors or so-claimed "tuners" that play with the results and the boost reporting, I let customers report the results on their own..

fast951

This thread has way too many posts.. so I'll try to reply to all of them at once..

Since few people questined the dyno charts that I personally took, I decided to let the customers report their own results.. As with Stage 3, I posted the results as sent to me by the customers.. When customers send me dyno charts for Stage 2 at different boost levels I'll be glad to post them on the website..
The names of the customers were not included, however if they want to see their name on the charts they can email me directly requesting it and I will oblige.

As far as misleading people, if someone feels I mislead him/her please come forward...

And for those that have the S2 or S3 or whatever turbo of mine.. Would you PLEASE let me know what is "grinding the numbers off of the turbo" is all about??? Any of you received a turbo that have been ground to hide information? Am I missing something here??? TonyG, what on earth are you talking about? What grindring of the turbo?

Skunk Workz

Hmm...I better step on it and get the badass 2.5 done then...

shaheed

uh tony, first you say:

then you quote the vitesse racing website as saying:
isn't that exactly what i said earlier? first the claim was that stage 2 couldn't outperform a k27/6 even though there is already plenty of dyno evidence to the contrary. now we're going to start nitpicking and saying it has to be done on CA pump gas?

blodstrupmoen

ME2

hally

has anyone tried a stage 1 or 2 wheel in a #6 or #8 hotside?
where would these combos sit relative to a stock #6 and #8 hotside?
thanks

TonyG

shaheed

You're taking things out of context. Go back and re-read everything.

TonyG

snappy

it seems that the fundamental issue here is that vt site lists specific numbers in an order. which should state that the kit will produce that number. John just add an asterisks saying that this and more is possible with the kit. I think people on both sides are over analyzing this. I see the point on both sides, I know what our car is capable of "or at least within region" so when I saw the dyno post I read and interpreted as such. Not because the site made it clear.

Seeing as you speak to the owner before you purchase the item, all misconceptions will dealt with and sorted out.

I disagree with the statement that respect should be earned. There is a certain level of "common decency people should respect to oneanother" and I hope we are all grown up enough to treat each-other in such a manner.

It's great to disagree it opens up minds and fosters out of the box thinking. when it turns into bickering then all doors slams shut and no solutions comes from it.

C'Mon guys/gals, we are all a happy family over here.
can you tell I am a libra

hosrom_951

That makes two of us......

But look at the thread title and look at the posts now........

Marc Shaw

Gentlemen (and in some cases I obvously use that term loosely ), please try to keep the discussion on topic and civil.

Name calling, personal attacks, and the rest of that sort of BS will not be tolerated.

Once again a potentially useful thread has been degraded - I don't want to have to close another thread that started out as interesting and useful but, if the crap continues, I will.

Marc

Duke

This is how it goes when business interests are represented on a forum.
Please note that I'm not blaming anyone for anything.
I simply state that this is the expected outcome when someone/someones do everything to defend certain products, right or wrong.

special tool

Not just monetary, Duke. Sometimes pride - its easy to get offended when you have 1,000's of hours into a project, and some keyboard jockey dismisses your efforts like a whistle in the park.

Duke

So true, it's very easy to get religious about your own stuff and efforts.

Tomas L

I'll guess that money and pride together with religion is the causes behind most wars, both the small ones here on Rennlist (although our religious isses are of a different kind) and the larger ones in the real world.
Pride of what we build is a good thing but if it get to great it may be in the way of further progress.

ST, just because I don't believe that your car makes 533 rwhp doesn't mean that I don't have respect for what you have done with it (unless you personally "recalibrated" the dyno or tested every dyno in the state for the most optimistic one...). Even if it's "only" at 500 fwhp it still is a very powerful car.