Dash01

Part No. 944.207.309.00. is said by Craigslist seller to be from a 968, but since the Porsche part number starts with 944, can this be readily adapted for use in an '86 944 Turbo? Similar fittings? Anybody done this, and if so, how well did it work?

Voith

You need 968 hoses and oil filter housing too or custom hoses.

MAGK944

PaulD_944S2

I don't think the fittings are the same as the turbo, the hose are longer and different shape, and the mounting brackets will be different.

Check how a 944S2 is setup, they used the same arrangement as the 968, but there was a change in the hose fittings (varies by model year, see PET) but if you are buying the cooler, you should get it with hoses.

PF

From the beginning the 968 was meant to be named 944 S3 Which is probably why most 968 unique parts have 944 numbers like the oilcooler.
The 968 Turbo S used that same cooler in addition of a second cooler (Tiptronic trans cooler) on the left side of the car.
The cooler will work fine but fittings are not the same. Also ducting is not the same and need to be adressed. If you place it were the stock 951 cooler sits it will also interfer with the 951 brake cooler duct. Dont know how/where to best fit it. Cooling capacity might be a bit better than on the 951 unit but I dont know. Hopefully someone else has first hand experience.

Dash01

Thanks, all. Sounds like I'm better off to go the Mazda RX7 oil cooler route, or aftermarket generic, with new hoses and recycling old fittings. Otherwise, what's better/more cost efficient?

V2Rocket

Hi,
The 968/S2 unit is certainly going to be better than the stock 951 unit because it has so much more frontal area as well as being much larger in general.

Sort of hard to find though.
However, would you be interested in a similar size cooler arrangement, off my own car?
Uses the 951 oil filter mount, custom hoses to a 13 row oil Setrab oil cooler. I made a bracket to attach to my custom radiator frame but it should be adaptable to your car with some creativity.
Cooler and bracket pictured below, but not the hose in the photo. Hoses for this setup are very short.

Voith

Interesting bit of information.. Do you have any picture what did that setup look like and how hoses were routed? I love factory solutions.

Other coolers might be better, but factory langerer&reich just looks sexy.


This is how hoses look;


And this is the oil filter housing;

PF

I also like factory solutions. The link below was forwarded to me by "Boostfeen" on the 968 forum. Shows a rebuild by Reiner Telkamp of a factory Turbo S. Car had been modified prior rebuild.
The 968 Turbo S replica I am building will use the same setup.
The tiptronic trans cooler is actually a S2 oilcooler. Porsche also made ducting for it like on the other side of the car as can be seen in the pics. This wont fit the 951 though.
https://www.reiner-telkamp.de/porsche-968-turbo-s-rückbau/

Dash01

I just figured to recycle the old hose fittings and splice in new oil- and pressure-resistant hoses, and use the larger 968 oil cooler arranged horizontally, just like the common Maxda RX7 modification. This is reportedly done by cutting off the metal outer ferules from the old hoses with careful application of a Dremel cutting disk, so as not to mar the internal barbed metal ends, then clamping on new hoses of proper length, by use of stainless high-pressure fuel hose clamps. No need to modify the stock oil filter or oil/coolant heat exchanger hardware.

Voith

Thanks! Nice looking setup.

PF

Yes its a nice setup but in this pic that was taken from before the rebuild of the car it had dual oilcoolers from early aircooled 911. Hoses ar the same though as with the stock coolers.
During the rebuild they mounted stock coolers (968 and S2) again as can be seen in pics in the thread I attached before.

Voith

Cool. I'll probably try and replicate that setup. (because why not ) I have few ideas already.