Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

AutoThority MAF potentiometer?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-15-2018, 11:50 PM
  #1  
Not_Sure
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Not_Sure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Rocky mtn High
Posts: 658
Received 52 Likes on 36 Posts
Default AutoThority MAF potentiometer?

Can anyone help here? Im working on a 951 with the autothority MAF. It had a Potentiometer wired in, but it was ripped off by the headlight mechanism, and theres nothing left.
Can anyone tell me anything about it, where to get one/how to wire it up?

thanks!
Old 03-16-2018, 03:04 AM
  #2  
Humboldtgrin
Drifting
 
Humboldtgrin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
Posts: 2,268
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Well...Autothority is one of the 944 companies that didn't make it thru that 2008 market crash era. The next best thing is install a factory AFM. The chips in the computer also have to be changed to match the AFM/MAF, injector size, displacement, turbo size, exhaust size, throttle body size, cam, and known type of DME pins 24 or 28. Give us more info. Do you have $ to burn on a Lindsey Racing Rogue tune MAF kit? If so then get that. Or buy a stand alone.
Old 03-16-2018, 08:21 AM
  #3  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

I have had that setup for years. The pot is for adjustment at idle. I'd have to measure it because I cannot remember what value it was . if you ever upgrade let me know. I'd be interested in it and the chips . mine has never let me down and I move it between my three cars...depending on which one I'm driving.
Old 03-16-2018, 12:25 PM
  #4  
bw993
Rennlist Member
 
bw993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

The APE MAF has a potentiometer in place of a AFM temperature sensor. The idea was that you would statically adjust the pot to compensate for changes in air temps for the MAF.
Old 03-16-2018, 02:02 PM
  #5  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

And I forgot to mention I can screw mine up and down and its basically useless....it changes the idle a bit but honestly I had forgotten all about it ..
Old 03-17-2018, 04:01 AM
  #6  
Not_Sure
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Not_Sure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Rocky mtn High
Posts: 658
Received 52 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Well I dont have any funds for upgrading at the moment, just need to get it running.

can I get some pics? and/or a PN off of it? so I can see how its wired

Perhaps after I get it running I might sell it in the future, but I doubt what I could sell it for would help much in getting something new, so it might not be worth it.
Old 03-17-2018, 12:33 PM
  #7  
V2Rocket
Rainman
Rennlist Member
 
V2Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 45,497
Received 632 Likes on 490 Posts
Default

if the pot was a replacement for the AFM temp sensor, couldn't you salvage a temp sensor from an AFM and wire it in and install it in the air filter tube?

the AFM is kind of tricky to disassemble but the air temp sensor comes out easy enough.
Old 03-17-2018, 01:47 PM
  #8  
bw993
Rennlist Member
 
bw993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Simplest thing to do is get the resistance reading off of an existing APE MAF potentiometer (since you have no idea what scaling is used in the software) at ambient from another rennlister and just wire in a static resistor with the same value.
Old 03-17-2018, 02:27 PM
  #9  
lart951
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
lart951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: California
Posts: 14,435
Received 87 Likes on 50 Posts
Default

wow autothority maf I'll buy it for 2k that thing is like having a prehistoric fossil in this day
Old 03-17-2018, 02:29 PM
  #10  
fast951
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
fast951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 6,885
Likes: 0
Received 37 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Not_Sure
Well I dont have any funds for upgrading at the moment, just need to get it running.

can I get some pics? and/or a PN off of it? so I can see how its wired

Perhaps after I get it running I might sell it in the future, but I doubt what I could sell it for would help much in getting something new, so it might not be worth it.

The potentiometer used with the APE MAF replaces the Intake Air Temp (IAT). In their software, the IAT compensation tables are in use. No idea why!
The potentiometer or IAT signal is used by APE for various engine running states, not just idle.

The simplest way is to use a 2.2k ohm (approx 70 deg) resistor or a linear pot in the 4-5k ohm range. To wire it one side goes to Ground, the other side goes to pin on IAT pin/wire on the DME. Using an actual IAT sensor with APE may not be the best solution as it may have many side effects.

Look at this thread Here to get an idea of the wiring. There is a picture that may help you.
Old 03-18-2018, 05:37 PM
  #11  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Lart, Mine works awesome has for the past 20 Years... Id love to find another cause I have to switch it between cars... I like my Autotority MAF better than my standalone..
Old 03-19-2018, 04:05 PM
  #12  
Not_Sure
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Not_Sure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Rocky mtn High
Posts: 658
Received 52 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPA951s
Lart, Mine works awesome has for the past 20 Years... Id love to find another cause I have to switch it between cars... I like my Autotority MAF better than my standalone..
well, um.... let the bidding begin??


I found this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post4398927
Old 07-08-2018, 04:41 AM
  #13  
Rsavage
Track Day
 
Rsavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Autothority maf setup

I just got a '87 951 and it came with a never installed Autothority maf setup with both tune chips. I dont want it. Do you think there is anyone out there that would buy it, or is it trash?
Old 07-08-2018, 08:08 AM
  #14  
GPA951s
Three Wheelin'
 
GPA951s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outskirts of Buffalo NY
Posts: 1,962
Received 270 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

ILL TAKE IT! Like it says in my earlier post on this thread, I have to switch computer setups because I always swap from my 89 to my 86... According to a to some people the Autothority MAF cant deal with he Ethanol Fuel but thats a risk Im willing to take.
Old 07-08-2018, 12:19 PM
  #15  
Rsavage
Track Day
 
Rsavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPA951s
ILL TAKE IT! Like it says in my earlier post on this thread, I have to switch computer setups because I always swap from my 89 to my 86... According to a to some people the Autothority MAF cant deal with he Ethanol Fuel but thats a risk Im willing to take.
is it possible to private message you so I can send you pictures and we can discuss a price.


Quick Reply: AutoThority MAF potentiometer?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:38 PM.