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Old 01-09-2017, 02:44 PM
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Did some research and ordered a steering sleeve to fix my play in the steering wheel. First odd thing occurred when I realized that the steering wheel nut was barely finger tight. Steering wheel came off and it just seems like I may be missing something in there. Then I noticed that a sleeve is already on he shaft but it seems to have come out a bit I don't think it's in far enough. Pictures do more than words so here it is. Am I missing components and was the steering sleeve too far out? I pulled the sleeve out with barely any force just using a hook pick.
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First has any work been done to the steering rack?
if so its possible to not have the coupler on enough,
this will push the steering shaft away from the horn ring.

Otherwise the bearing appears to have failed ,
and thus a new bearing should be fitted.

NOTE get a helper with the vacuum cleaner and sharp chisel,
strike the bearing a few times and it will shatter the outer metal bearing,

use the vacuum held close to suck out the ***** so they dont fall down the column
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
First has any work been done to the steering rack?
if so its possible to not have the coupler on enough,
this will push the steering shaft away from the horn ring.

Otherwise the bearing appears to have failed ,
and thus a new bearing should be fitted.

NOTE get a helper with the vacuum cleaner and sharp chisel,
strike the bearing a few times and it will shatter the outer metal bearing,

use the vacuum held close to suck out the ***** so they dont fall down the column
thanks merlin always first to help. Will this work ?
http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/PEL-ML-STR.htm
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no, you need a new bearing,
its called the upper steering column bearing, Roger sells them.

once you have it installed then the collar you have is pushed down the shaft into the center of the bearing.

then you put the steering wheel nut on the shaft,
then with vice grips pull the nut to the back of the car,
this will compress the shaft spring and let the E clip slot move upwards,
so your helper can slide it in to hold the collar in the preloaded position.

These bearings usually break from people pulling on the steering wheel while in the entry/exit mode,
or while trying to push the car with the steering wheel.
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not to hijack this thread....but its related

My steering wheel has no play, but it makes a scrapping sound when I turn it. I this a failed bearing?

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Originally Posted by granprixweiss928
not to hijack this thread....but its related

My steering wheel has no play, but it makes a scrapping sound when I turn it. I this a failed bearing?

Mark
No, it's the horn contact on the multi switch sitting a bit too close to the steering wheel.

Loosen the collar and slide the switch down the steering column until it is just making contact with the horn ring.

That should fix it. If you had a failed bearing your steering wheel would jiggle and the horn would go off randomly when steering.
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No, it's the horn contact on the multi switch sitting a bit too close to the steering wheel.

Loosen the collar and slide the switch down the steering column until it is just making contact with the horn ring.

That should fix it. If you had a failed bearing your steering wheel would jiggle and the horn would go off randomly when steering.
Again you impress me with your knowledge of these cars ! thanks
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
no, you need a new bearing,
its called the upper steering column bearing, Roger sells them.

once you have it installed then the collar you have is pushed down the shaft into the center of the bearing.

then you put the steering wheel nut on the shaft,
then with vice grips pull the nut to the back of the car,
this will compress the shaft spring and let the E clip slot move upwards,
so your helper can slide it in to hold the collar in the preloaded position.

These bearings usually break from people pulling on the steering wheel while in the entry/exit mode,
or while trying to push the car with the steering wheel.
Got it. Ordered and will reply when installed.
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Originally Posted by granprixweiss928
Again you impress me with your knowledge of these cars ! thanks
Anytime
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
no, you need a new bearing,
its called the upper steering column bearing, Roger sells them.

once you have it installed then the collar you have is pushed down the shaft into the center of the bearing.

then you put the steering wheel nut on the shaft,
then with vice grips pull the nut to the back of the car,
this will compress the shaft spring and let the E clip slot move upwards,
so your helper can slide it in to hold the collar in the preloaded position.

These bearings usually break from people pulling on the steering wheel while in the entry/exit mode,
or while trying to push the car with the steering wheel.
Merlin, the bearing broke on install as I was tapping it in. Any tips or tricks once I get a new one?
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Originally Posted by Kamilo77
Merlin, the bearing broke on install as I was tapping it in. Any tips or tricks once I get a new one?
Use a socket that is just as large as the outer edge of the bearing to more evenly distribute the force from the hammer or whatever you use to tap it in place.
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Originally Posted by The Forgotten On
Use a socket that is just as large as the outer edge of the bearing to more evenly distribute the force from the hammer or whatever you use to tap it in place.
Exactly what I did. It would not go in at all.
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Originally Posted by Kamilo77
Exactly what I did. It would not go in at all.
Did you remove all of the old bearing?

Having a bit of it in can have a similar effect as the rear seal in the thermostat housing. The new one wont seat.
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It would also be helpful to heat the column with a heat gun,
put the bearing into the freezer ,
use the backside of a socket to drive it in,
use the extension installed from the nut side .

NOTE the internal bore must be round and nick free ,
if its not smooth then the new bearing may not drive in before being damaged.
use a file and or Emery cloth to make it smooth
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Did you remove all of the old bearing?

Having a bit of it in can have a similar effect as the rear seal in the thermostat housing. The new one wont seat.
Correct. I did.


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