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Wow, didn't know about "000". I assumed you were spending your idle time replacing the motor mounts et cetera on your own 928. I think it's cool that you gave a 928 subject the "last word" placement. And, certainly, let's be conservative on the fair-use doctrine - it's a tough world for creatives.
(If the proceeds of my subscription will be dedicated to your 928, I'm in.)
But either way, good luck!
Thanks!!
Idle time? What is this thing you speak of? I last knew it in June, the month off between Panorama and 000 startup. The black 928 is saved for now, in dry storage until I get 000 fully up to speed and dialed in. But I think I know what I want to do with the car if it makes any sense—and my Google image search for a 928 like the one I envisioned pointed me right back to this forum. Turns out, someone else had a very similar idea—and even illustrated it, but it appears they stopped there. So I'll say this: Part of the proceeds of your subscription will indeed be dedicated to an attempt to bring the black 928 back from the dead. Already, a couple of folks from this forum have offered assistance, which is beyond cool. I just need to find the time—and courage. I fix words for a living, and don't get to turn wrenches as often as I once did.
Originally Posted by 77tony
Hi Pete, In your search for an early OB, remember running this one past you https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...a-79-ob-6.html
so....after you passed went ahead and purchased this beauty. Worked the "other side" for TAM Communications my last 10 years. Great luck with your new endeavor. T
Danke! But you just had to post that, didn't you? Argh. That black car is INSANE! Maybe my idea will have to go by the wayside...or is just a stop along the way to spoiler delete, 16-inch phone dials, and a proper paint job. Actually, my idea wouldn't get in the way of that...and might be a fun side road while sorting the car until it's time to paint it. Before any of that makes any sense whatsoever, however, there is much to be discovered and done. And yes, of course it would make a lot more sense to start with a better car. But I wouldn't have my 914 by that logic, and I wouldn't trade that journey for anything on wheels.
Pete, I finally have a few 'bachelor' days and broke open issue 000 last night- not sure what superlative(s) would capture it but wow, it's a beautiful piece of work. When you have time to play with the 928, holler, we'll be here to help however we can.
It's a "what if" article that's an interesting look at what the 928 would have evolved into if Ernst Fuhrmann had not been replaced by Peter Schutz. Essentially, a parallel history in which the 928 does replace the aging 911 platform, and with all resources now devoted to it, evolves into a serious Group B car.
The renderings are pretty cool, I don't have a good enough image to post, I'm hearing about this second hand...but very cool concept.
I would be happy to accept a subscription from one of you guys as a gift, however...the 250.00 entry level would be fine, you don't have to get me the $999.00 premium membership
Far from this topic, but does anyone have more information from following 928 engine equipped 962 project? Nice Lehmann style intakes,
the engine is sitting relative high compared to flat-6. Power target may have been close 1000hp as flat-6 was pulling 600 - 700hp.
I'd be very interested in this project as well. I can see a couple of things there right away that make me scratch my head and gets my neurons firing a bit.
Greg Brown mentioned 000 to me last night. We are documenting the build on the "red car" 86.5. The car is currently in the paint shop where is coming apart for a total respray. The 968 pistons and custom crank have been ordered along with new rods and cams.. Hopefully we will get 500hp out of it. (6.4liter) We think that at the end of the day we will have a very special car. It would be interesting to have a comparison drive/test with this car and other various Porsches. How does a 500hp S3 to a modern car?
I subscribed!
Briefly drove a 6.5-liter 928 years ago said to have 600 hp. Had a manual transmission and just one single black steel exhaust pipe. All business, and what a BEAST that thing was on the freeway. All cars in sight seemed like guppies.
Far from this topic, but does anyone have more information from following 928 engine equipped 962 project? Nice Lehmann style intakes,
the engine is sitting relative high compared to flat-6. Power target may have been close 1000hp as flat-6 was pulling 600 - 700hp.
962 Porsche presented to Porsche by Kremer to try and combat the big bangers from Mercedes and Jaguar "We were very glad when Mr Kremer came and said he had put a 928 engine in a Group C car and asked us if we could do some further development on it. But Mr Bott apologised and said we had no money, no budget, although that would have been the best way".
The concept was to "mildly" turbo charge it..... what may have been.......
962 Porsche presented to Porsche by Kremer to try and combat the big bangers from Mercedes and Jaguar "We were very glad when Mr Kremer came and said he had put a 928 engine in a Group C car and asked us if we could do some further development on it. But Mr Bott apologised and said we had no money, no budget, although that would have been the best way".
The concept was to "mildly" turbo charge it..... what may have been.......
Thanks for that note.
I would've gone with a single plenum intake and two twin-scroll turbos, instead of those two separate plenums and single scroll turbos. Otherwise, the intake is going to have a torque hole somewhere and the 90-degree exhaust interference is going to hit the overlap at some rpms as well. But maybe they've thought it thru better than I can and I'm missing something here.
Plus there's the fact that if you turbocharge a 5.0L 32V V8, it's going to make a lot of power no matter how you do it...
The concept was to "mildly" turbo charge it..... what may have been.......
Indeed.
One can only imagine what the subsequent GT1, GT1-98, LMP2000, Carrera GT, 9R6, etc might have looked like had the 962 moved to a twin-turbo V8. No flat-six GT1 program might've had an interesting impact on the 996/997 Turbo & GT2/GT3 programs, as well.
12-29-2016, 01:51 PM
I last knew it in June, the month off between Panorama and 000 startup. The black 928 is saved for now, in dry storage until I get 000 fully up to speed and dialed in. But I think I know what I want to do with the car if it makes any sense—and my Google image search for a 928 like the one I envisioned pointed me right back to this forum. Turns out, someone else had a very similar idea—and even illustrated it, but it appears they stopped there. So I'll say this: Part of the proceeds of your subscription will indeed be dedicated to an attempt to bring the black 928 back from the dead. Already, a couple of folks from this forum have offered assistance, which is beyond cool. I just need to find the time—and courage. I fix words for a living, and don't get to turn wrenches as often as I once did.
