1992 MB500e The Porsche built Mercedes Benz
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1992 MB500e The Porsche built Mercedes Benz
Hi All:
Just bought a 1992 MB 500e which is the only MB series built by Porsche! Will arrive next week.
Does anyone know if my GTS auto transmission is the same as that used in the 500E?
From Wikipedia:
From 1990 to 1994 (model years 1991–1994), Mercedes-Benz sold a high-performance version of the W124, the Mercedes-Benz 500 E (W124.036). The 500 E was created in close cooperation with Porsche; each 500 E was hand-built by Porsche, being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau plant in Zuffenhausen, Germany during assembly — taking a full 18 days to complete each model. Design began in 1989 and into 1991. Called '500 E' through model year 1993, for model year 1994 it was face-lifted along with the rest of the range and renamed to 'E 500'
Specifications and General Information
The 500 E had a naturally aspirated 5.0L V8 engine derived from the 500 SL (R129) roadster. Sports car braking performance also came from SL components: front SL 500 300 mm disks with 4-piston calipers came installed on the 1992 and early 1993 cars. The later 1993, and all 1994 cars came with the upgraded 320 mm set taken from the 600 SL. Rear brakes on all years were 278 mm brakes from the 500 SL. In the USA, the 500 E came fully equipped, with the only options available to the buyer being a dealer-installed CD changer and an integrated cellular telephone. The 500 E was only with four seats in left hand drive, with the four leather seats supplied by Recaro (the fronts heated).
Called the "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" by the press,[3][4] performance tests of the day yielded impressive results: 0–100 km/h (0–62 mph) times of 5.5 to 6.0 seconds and acceleration through the quarter-mile (0.4 km) in 14.1 seconds at 163 km/h (101 mph). The top speed was redline limited at 6,000 rpm to 260 km/h (~160 mph). It was rated at 16.8 L/100 km (14 mpg) in the city and 13.8 L/100 km (17 mpg) on the highway.
With its aggressive stance: 1.5 inches wider track, 0.9 inch lower profile, flared fenders, side skirts, front air-dam and wide tires, the 500 E is easily distinguished from its lesser brethren. Because of its look, limited numbers, hand-built construction, and unique pedigree, the 500 E is already considered a "classic", even within Mercedes-Benz.
All the best,
Joe
Just bought a 1992 MB 500e which is the only MB series built by Porsche! Will arrive next week.
Does anyone know if my GTS auto transmission is the same as that used in the 500E?
From Wikipedia:
From 1990 to 1994 (model years 1991–1994), Mercedes-Benz sold a high-performance version of the W124, the Mercedes-Benz 500 E (W124.036). The 500 E was created in close cooperation with Porsche; each 500 E was hand-built by Porsche, being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau plant in Zuffenhausen, Germany during assembly — taking a full 18 days to complete each model. Design began in 1989 and into 1991. Called '500 E' through model year 1993, for model year 1994 it was face-lifted along with the rest of the range and renamed to 'E 500'
Specifications and General Information
The 500 E had a naturally aspirated 5.0L V8 engine derived from the 500 SL (R129) roadster. Sports car braking performance also came from SL components: front SL 500 300 mm disks with 4-piston calipers came installed on the 1992 and early 1993 cars. The later 1993, and all 1994 cars came with the upgraded 320 mm set taken from the 600 SL. Rear brakes on all years were 278 mm brakes from the 500 SL. In the USA, the 500 E came fully equipped, with the only options available to the buyer being a dealer-installed CD changer and an integrated cellular telephone. The 500 E was only with four seats in left hand drive, with the four leather seats supplied by Recaro (the fronts heated).
Called the "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" by the press,[3][4] performance tests of the day yielded impressive results: 0–100 km/h (0–62 mph) times of 5.5 to 6.0 seconds and acceleration through the quarter-mile (0.4 km) in 14.1 seconds at 163 km/h (101 mph). The top speed was redline limited at 6,000 rpm to 260 km/h (~160 mph). It was rated at 16.8 L/100 km (14 mpg) in the city and 13.8 L/100 km (17 mpg) on the highway.
With its aggressive stance: 1.5 inches wider track, 0.9 inch lower profile, flared fenders, side skirts, front air-dam and wide tires, the 500 E is easily distinguished from its lesser brethren. Because of its look, limited numbers, hand-built construction, and unique pedigree, the 500 E is already considered a "classic", even within Mercedes-Benz.
All the best,
Joe
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No idea but 77Tony and Eman 928 are big 500E fans / owners and will likely chime in. I have always been intrigued by them as well.
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Like Rob said Erik "Eman" is also a fan and think he still owns one. My younger brother had a beautiful Rose colored 93 he used to DD/track. Was rear ended in Boston and car was totaled. He turned around and purchased a 95 (IIRC-only one in the US). Mine was gone through by Renntech: 6.0 storker motor, headers, chipped, SS exhaust w/billet tips, big brembo's, 18" BBS rims, etc. Car was an animal and was more stable at high speed than my old 928 GTS. T
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Lovely car!
And then there was the RS2......
And then there was the RS2......
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I have "own an M-B" on my bucket list. But there are so many interesting choices. I think I'll obsess about the 500 E for a while. That really looks perfect. How did you find it? And buy it?
Uranium metallurgist ... just saying "metallurgist" is a conversation-stopper at parties. I've seen the uranium phase diagram, and been through security at Los Alamos; both were frightening. I was happy to stick with nickel and, under duress, titanium aluminide.
Uranium metallurgist ... just saying "metallurgist" is a conversation-stopper at parties. I've seen the uranium phase diagram, and been through security at Los Alamos; both were frightening. I was happy to stick with nickel and, under duress, titanium aluminide.
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I have "own an M-B" on my bucket list. But there are so many interesting choices. I think I'll obsess about the 500 E for a while. That really looks perfect. How did you find it? And buy it?
Uranium metallurgist ... just saying "metallurgist" is a conversation-stopper at parties. I've seen the uranium phase diagram, and been through security at Los Alamos; both were frightening. I was happy to stick with nickel and, under duress, titanium aluminide.
Uranium metallurgist ... just saying "metallurgist" is a conversation-stopper at parties. I've seen the uranium phase diagram, and been through security at Los Alamos; both were frightening. I was happy to stick with nickel and, under duress, titanium aluminide.
Began career in the uranium business in Grants, New Mexico many years ago working on the front end of the fuel cycle producing yellow cake from a variety of sources hence the moniker. Now happily working on developing gold projects throughout the world.
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Congrats on the 500E! You're gonna love it. Rock solid at high speed and the build quality is on par with the 928.
I have a 93 with 125k miles, Silver Arrow brakes. I believe the MB trans in the 500E is model 722.3, which I think is very similar to the GTS trans. Let me do some research and see if I can confirm for you.
Let us know what you think about the car when you get it. Post pics, too!
I have a 93 with 125k miles, Silver Arrow brakes. I believe the MB trans in the 500E is model 722.3, which I think is very similar to the GTS trans. Let me do some research and see if I can confirm for you.
Let us know what you think about the car when you get it. Post pics, too!
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Congrats on the 500E! You're gonna love it. Rock solid at high speed and the build quality is on par with the 928.
I have a 93 with 125k miles, Silver Arrow brakes. I believe the MB trans in the 500E is model 722.3, which I think is very similar to the GTS trans. Let me do some research and see if I can confirm for you.
Let us know what you think about the car when you get it. Post pics, too!
I have a 93 with 125k miles, Silver Arrow brakes. I believe the MB trans in the 500E is model 722.3, which I think is very similar to the GTS trans. Let me do some research and see if I can confirm for you.
Let us know what you think about the car when you get it. Post pics, too!
Thanks for the post and your take on the 500E. I'm curious to see if the automatic is like the GTS'.
You are the second to comment on its high speed stability! Have had the GTS well into the triple digits on I5 a few years ago returning from the Rolex Historic Car Races at Laguna Seca and it was rock steady. After 120 it just hunkered down and was glued to the road. Made the trip from Gilroy to Vancouver in less than 18 hrs. About 1100 miles!
Will get pics out along with driving impression once it arrives.
All the best,
Joe
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I had a student at Pocono with a 500E. We were running the full NASCAR tri-oval that morning, and that car pretty much settled in at around 155 indicated for Long Pond Straight. I felt like I could read a magazine or take a nap. Effortless and no drama. Congrats to the OP!
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