Red Car FIRE
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Understood. This car is well documented, salvaged for the same reason I believe and should have no concern about driveability from the fire damage. Maybe this adds some weight to restoring it even with a salvage title. So, I guess the question is would whatever Van nets after the $11K settlement minus the buy back be more or less than the drop in value from a salvage title?
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the rail is bolted down onto the injector.
A physically broken injector could do this, or a pinched/torn Oring at the rail end could have blown out.
But injectors cant come out.
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I agree. The more I relive the event I think the injector was cracked. They were coral colored 4 hole and about half the weight of the older single injector
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Thats a LOT of liquid on fire over the side of the fender outside the bay..not sure how a cracked in jector can do that.
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If I understand correctly, the injectors were the new-style all-plastic units with skinny hips. Skinny enough to allow the injector to drop down into the intake and allow the top o-ring to disengage from the rail (absent a secure clip)? I don't know, but careful inspection should tell the story.
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Didn't someone (handle of Cosmo or something like that?) have an injector come loose and start a fire? Or am I remembering that wrong?
As for the PS fluid burning, I'm guessing that was a secondary ignition after the line or reservoir burst from the heat of the original fire.
As for the PS fluid burning, I'm guessing that was a secondary ignition after the line or reservoir burst from the heat of the original fire.
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This is not the first 928 fire due to a missing, loose, faulty, or improperly installed injector clip. It's very easy to attach the clip without them actually "grabbing" the grooves in the injector.
In fact, when this thread first popped up I received an e-mail from Mike Schmidt (Z):
"He mentioned that they had just replaced the fuel injectors. I know there have been some engine fires because people didn't install those square metal clips that hold the injectors correctly, or at all."
Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but when anything happens the first thing you ask is: "What is the last thing I did". In this case installed an injector and moments before the flame, the smell of raw fuel.
A cracked injector is also possible, but people cannot ignore how important those clips are.
Anyway - I vote fix the car. All things considered that damage isn't bad at all.
In fact, when this thread first popped up I received an e-mail from Mike Schmidt (Z):
"He mentioned that they had just replaced the fuel injectors. I know there have been some engine fires because people didn't install those square metal clips that hold the injectors correctly, or at all."
Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but when anything happens the first thing you ask is: "What is the last thing I did". In this case installed an injector and moments before the flame, the smell of raw fuel.
A cracked injector is also possible, but people cannot ignore how important those clips are.
Anyway - I vote fix the car. All things considered that damage isn't bad at all.
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Didn't someone (handle of Cosmo or something like that?) have an injector come loose and start a fire? Or am I remembering that wrong?
As for the PS fluid burning, I'm guessing that was a secondary ignition after the line or reservoir burst from the heat of the original fire.
As for the PS fluid burning, I'm guessing that was a secondary ignition after the line or reservoir burst from the heat of the original fire.
Just saying..1/2 the fender is draped in liquid on fire.
Where do you see a fuel fire at/under/around the fuel rail in the engine bay?
I do not. Just heat scorched plastics and rubber...but no ignition.
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But..isnt the car off at this point? No more PS fluid pressure to push out over the fender.
Just saying..1/2 the fender is draped in liquid on fire.
Where do you see a fuel fire at/under/around the fuel rail in the engine bay?
I do not. Just heat scorched plastics and rubber...but no ignition.
Just saying..1/2 the fender is draped in liquid on fire.
Where do you see a fuel fire at/under/around the fuel rail in the engine bay?
I do not. Just heat scorched plastics and rubber...but no ignition.
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I am not sure this is true-- that it can't come out of the rail if the clip isn't secure. The rail is bolted down, correct. And the injector is basically trapped between the rail and intake. And the original-style injectors can't move downward much, because their fat bottoms run into the intake.
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This is not the first 928 fire due to a missing, loose, faulty, or improperly installed injector clip. It's very easy to attach the clip without them actually "grabbing" the grooves in the injector.
In fact, when this thread first popped up I received an e-mail from Mike Schmidt (Z):
"He mentioned that they had just replaced the fuel injectors. I know there have been some engine fires because people didn't install those square metal clips that hold the injectors correctly, or at all."
In fact, when this thread first popped up I received an e-mail from Mike Schmidt (Z):
"He mentioned that they had just replaced the fuel injectors. I know there have been some engine fires because people didn't install those square metal clips that hold the injectors correctly, or at all."