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Wow, someone (some people) have spent a LOT of time on that! You can say with authority "One of One."
If it was across the international border that is a closer to me I'd go check it out! I wonder if it has a flux capacitor.
Jason
Lol. Hey it is a Euro at least. Wonder what is under that hood and in the interior? Something tells me that whoever did the body didn't stop there.
Rear bumper cover looks like it was replaced with one from an S model
So this one pains me a bit. A petrol blue OB with pasha is near if not at the top of my want list for my next 928. When this one popped up on CL yesterday I inquired immediately. I spoke to the owner, Louis. He is a really nice older gentleman who imported the car in 1984 from Germany when he was living in New Mexico. He believes he is the second owner. The car runs and drives (AC even works) but it has been sitting in his outbuilding for the past 15 years. He believes the transmission needs a couple of synchros and openly admits that the car will be a project. But the real gem is that the paint is original (or at least never painted since '84 (unlikely it was resprayed by the first owner in the previous 5 years)) and the pasha fabric is in "very good" condition according to Louis.
A couple of other things. The radio is an aftermarket Alpine system put in from the first owner with custom speakers. Since it's a German unit it apparently doesn't tune to any US stations. He has a full set of workshop manuals and other various paperwork that he kept.
He is firm on the price and has gotten a lot of inquiries about the car. And after about 10 minutes I was ready to say. "I'll take it!" but then came the real let down (at least for me). The original owner had an aftermarket moonroof installed. Such a bummer. There is no easy (inexpesive) way to remedy that. So I passed on it. But I believe this car still has potential to be a real nice example. And if the paint and pasha are in as decent condition as the owner says, then for someone who doesn't mind a moonroof, at $5K it would be hard to feel you went wrong. Hopefully someone here will ****** this one up.
So this one pains me a bit. A petrol blue OB with pasha is near if not at the top of my want list for my next 928. When this one popped up on CL yesterday I inquired immediately. I spoke to the owner, Louis. He is a really nice older gentleman who imported the car in 1984 from Germany when he was living in New Mexico. He believes he is the second owner. The car runs and drives (AC even works) but it has been sitting in his outbuilding for the past 15 years. He believes the transmission needs a couple of synchros and openly admits that the car will be a project. But the real gem is that the paint is original (or at least never painted since '84 (unlikely it was resprayed by the first owner in the previous 5 years)) and the pasha fabric is in "very good" condition according to Louis.
A couple of other things. The radio is an aftermarket Alpine system put in from the first owner with custom speakers. Since it's a German unit it apparently doesn't tune to any US stations. He has a full set of workshop manuals and other various paperwork that he kept.
He is firm on the price and has gotten a lot of inquiries about the car. And after about 10 minutes I was ready to say. "I'll take it!" but then came the real let down (at least for me). The original owner had an aftermarket moonroof installed. Such a bummer. There is no easy (inexpesive) way to remedy that. So I passed on it. But I believe this car still has potential to be a real nice example. And if the paint and pasha are in as decent condition as the owner says, then for someone who doesn't mind a moonroof, at $5K it would be hard to feel you went wrong. Hopefully someone here will ****** this one up.
Nate,
That is a little painful... Did he say the pod and dashboard were uncracked?
Classic roof and gearbox issues on a early OB. Still, it is tempting!
nate, only you can make such a personal call, but I think you can eventually remedy the roof. it can be done, and it would deserve to be done properly. the car sounds great, otherwise. good luck
at that price point, I can't imagine there is much of a downside.
There's a fair amount of other things that would be needed if bringing it back to original spec was the plan. The chin and rear spoiler would need to be removed also, plus the federalized side markers (ad says gray market, but it looks to have been properly federalized, so not gray market). By the time you fix all of those body things, you are looking at a full respray, so originality of paint is no longer there. But if the interior is good (fix the doors), it could still be worth it. You are looking at $20K plus to do the exterior right.
If you're hung up on 'as it left the factory' originality. For me, a car modified in a period-correct way also has appeal. And, anyway, a moonroof is probably a better idea for these cars than the sunroof.
That is a little painful... Did he say the pod and dashboard were uncracked?
Classic roof and gearbox issues on a early OB. Still, it is tempting!
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There looks to be a large crack above the glovebox but unsure if that is a shadow.
I know I sound like a broken record, but i truly believe there is no such thing as good used Porsche fabric. This stuff tends to dry rot badly. The only exception seems to be script cloth which seems to wear better. Any Pascha fabric that seems good will start to disintegrate with use.
Cool car, may just have to live with the mods on this one however.
That is a little painful... Did he say the pod and dashboard were uncracked?
Classic roof and gearbox issues on a early OB. Still, it is tempting!
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I forgot to ask. As Guy pointed out one of the pictures suggests the dash may be cracked.
Originally Posted by merchauser
nate, only you can make such a personal call, but I think you can eventually remedy the roof. it can be done, and it would deserve to be done properly. the car sounds great, otherwise. good luck
at that price point, I can't imagine there is much of a downside.
Sure in the end the roof can be fixed but it would require a talented body shop, then an entire respray. Not to mention a new headliner. Along with the mechanical restoration needed that puts it in a cost territory where you could find one that needs none of that and is just ready to drive.
Originally Posted by linderpat
There's a fair amount of other things that would be needed if bringing it back to original spec was the plan. The chin and rear spoiler would need to be removed also, plus the federalized side markers (ad says gray market, but it looks to have been properly federalized, so not gray market). By the time you fix all of those body things, you are looking at a full respray, so originality of paint is no longer there. But if the interior is good (fix the doors), it could still be worth it. You are looking at $20K plus to do the exterior right.
I actually don't mind the S updates. They are period correct. The federalized markers are not the best looking. If it were me I'd look to install flush versions. Keeping the paint original is major plus IMO.
Originally Posted by Shawn Stanford
If you're hung up on 'as it left the factory' originality. For me, a car modified in a period-correct way also has appeal. And, anyway, a moonroof is probably a better idea for these cars than the sunroof.
As I mentioned above, period correct doesn't bother me. And you could argue that the moonroof is period correct because it was done in the early 80's. However, I just hate they way they look. I guess if a lot more cars had those done it wouldn't bother me as much, but I've only seen it one other time on the metallic green OB posted here a while back and it was a major detraction in the discussion of that car as well.
Originally Posted by Guy
There looks to be a large crack above the glovebox but unsure if that is a shadow.
I know I sound like a broken record, but i truly believe there is no such thing as good used Porsche fabric. This stuff tends to dry rot badly. The only exception seems to be script cloth which seems to wear better. Any Pascha fabric that seems good will start to disintegrate with use.
Cool car, may just have to live with the mods on this one however.
Yeah I saw that too and wondered the same thing. I just forgot to ask the question. As for pasha fabric deterioration, sure this car's fabric may be just a few uses away from really breaking down. However as you know there a lots of cars with original pasha that have held up over the years. The owner of this car had sheepskin covers over the seats for the past 15 years. And the car has been parked inside. I would guess sunlight and butts are the biggest threats to pasha. So it is possible that this pasha is still presentable and butt resistant. .
German FM frequencies are from 87,6 to 108 . You can use the german Unit in the US.
Agreed. The FM band is only offset I think by not even part of a mHz and the AM band only a couple kHz, so you can use it without noticing any difference.
I use a German version of a Blaupunkt in my '90, a Köln RCM 40, because it has the long wave and short wave bands (60m, 49m, 41m and 31m). The normal AM and FM bands are perfectly useable, but are offset at the ends just slightly. Overall, I think it's my favourite of the 80s + 90s Blaupunkt radios.
See my original post to this thread at #7076, referencing past Ebay listing on a "near perfect Mocca '79": https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Porsch...orig_cvip=true
JPTL and Hlee96 , anxious to hear comments!
- Jason
EDIT: Sorry, just saw that 77Tony beat me to the post!
07-03-2019, 03:34 AM
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