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Old 12-16-2015, 11:40 AM
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Here is a picture of the early development of the Boxster Mirror to fit in the front bottom corner of the 928 side window in the door. I started this a long time ago, but could not figure out how to get the mirror apart. I finally devised a vice grip with a custom jaw welded onto it that worked, but only once since it was not very sturdy and bent out of shape by the time I got the mirror apart. I am doing it over much heavier so I can take the other one apart and reshape the base of it, then I can make molds to cast the new shapes in fiberglass.
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:27 PM
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One huge cosmetic change I would like to see on a 928 is the removal of popup lights and the addition of integrated/fixed headlights. I am thinking of something along the lines of the Ferrari 550.


Just a thought for you Jerry....

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That would certainly modernize the look. For me, however, the upward-facing pop-ups are an iconic part of the 928. I think I'd keep 'em...
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather View Post
At this point I pretty well have the whole thing designed including just about all of the cuts and modifications, but now I am kind of interested to see if anyone else has ever given any thought to any of this, in particular the top chop. Anyone?

My first thought about chopping the 928 was that It can't really be done, but I have solved that now and know that it can be. It isn't going to look too much like the photoshop ones shown before. I took a picture of my paper cut-and-tape version of this project and I'll try to load and post it shortly.
Subscribed, Jerry! I have never given serious thought to chopping the top of a 928. Initial thoughts are that the most difficult chop would be by the first person to try it!

Something about the rear hatch was not working, for me. I edited your cut-n-paste by deleting the rear quarter window to see if it helped. (Did the same for the picture of Sterling's, even though you indicated it has different proportions.) I like it better with the window delete, but still feel maybe something more could be done there? Should it be straightened some?

And, along the radical lines, have you additionally considered a widebody kit, ala Strosek?

I respect your ambition!
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Hey, Carlos, Thanks for cleaning some of the extra stuff out of my "photochop." When it comes to the quarter windows I am kind of like Jeff about the headlights--I think they are kind of iconic in respect to the design of the 928. (I am with him on the headlights also.) I have seen one or maybe two 928s with the rear quarter windows blanked out like you have done, and I don't really care for it. One of the things I like about a couple of the concepts for a later day 928 is how they have kept the shape of the B-post as a sail panel and kept something like the quarter windows with it.

My concept really goes back to what I have said about my most favorite of all custom cars--the 34 ford 5 window couple that was sectioned and chopped and put back together looking very stock otherwise. The 928 could be chopped and sectioned and then incorporate different headlights and tail lights, sloped windshield, all kinds of body and bumper kits, and could even be made to match up with Randy's Corvette, but most of that just isn't where I want to go with this project.

I'm going to delete the wing, even though it is still in the picture; and the rear hatch window will stay the same even though it has been shortened in the picture. I do think I will make a small change in the rear wheel arch simply so that it doesn't look so narrow between it and the back of the door. Thats where there is going to be about 2 1/2 inches taken out, so I might put back maybe 3/4 to 1 inch of body, at least in the area of the upper front corner of the arch.

But I do admire and appreciate your creative thoughts about this project. Even though I have set most of it in my mind, I think the actual process, when I get started, is going to be somewhat organic; so we will see just how much of outside suggestions might find their way into this car.

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Originally Posted by bureau13 View Post
That would certainly modernize the look. For me, however, the upward-facing pop-ups are an iconic part of the 928. I think I'd keep 'em...
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The operative term here is iconic part of the 928.
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I had at one point in the past counted how many pieces the 928 will be cut into to do both of these modifications and I recall coming up with about 26. However, I just did it again and now come up with 38 plus about 5 more including the gas tank, which will need to have the neck sectioned, and 3 others depending on whether or not I lower the floor and whether I move the battery box up to the rear passenger seat on the right. Of course these pieces will not all be apart at the same time, so it wont be like a big 40 piece puzzle to put back together. Too, this count does not include the pieces removed or the patch pieces put back in in places.

I'm kind of surprised that someone has not suggested that this ought not be done to a 928 without doing it in a jig. My thoughts about that are that the car is its own jig. I will likely be putting some bracing in it before various parts are cut away, but my experience is that even that is not likely to be particularly necessary.

My other thoughts about blanking the quarter windows out is that the ones I have seen (and it may be just one that I have seen more than once) are not done very well. They look like someone has grafted in a section of flat sheet metal bent around its perimeter to match all the curves. They kind of remind me of something like where someone has cut the back off of a car to make the front into a pickup and then just welded in a flat piece of sheet metal to close it up, rather than doing it with material formed to some curvature to make it look like it was intended to be that way.

I really like the way the quarter windows on the 928 curve around the rear corners. Mine will still do that, although they wont go as far toward the center of the car after they make the turn. The one most noticeable aspect of this project, or the top chop part of it, is going to be the extra width, thickness or heft that is going to be seen is the C-posts particularly along the sides of the hatch which are going to be widened about 2 1/4 inches on each side. I'm hoping that that is not going to be a big distraction from the overall look when we are done. I have to admit though that the look of that would go away or be largely minimized if the quarter windows were blanked.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather View Post
Hey, Carlos, Thanks for cleaning some of the extra stuff out of my "photochop."
I was hoping you wouldn't mind that

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When it comes to the quarter windows I am kind of like Jeff about the headlights--I think they are kind of iconic in respect to the design of the 928. (I am with him on the headlights also.)
Agree on keeping as much of the iconic elements as possible, especially given the '34 Ford 5 Window Coupe inspiration.

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One of the things I like about a couple of the concepts for a later day 928 is how they have kept the shape of the B-post as a sail panel and kept something like the quarter windows with it.
Agree - those have done a good job of keeping that aspect of the "928" character.

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...could even be made to match up with Randy's Corvette, but most of that just isn't where I want to go with this project..
I had forgotten about the '34 Ford 5 Window Coupe inspiration for this project, and was wondering what the goal was. Yes, stay focused on that goal!

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I'm going to delete the wing, even though it is still in the picture; and the rear hatch window will stay the same even though it has been shortened in the picture.
I wish I would have known about the rear wing delete - it was a pain in the butt to keep that wing in the modified photo chop! Below, the wing is now deleted, and the window put back in.

Looking forward to how this develops!
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I'm getting over some of the cabin fever now with some warmer weather showing up finally and with some improvement with my early December injury. However, the fall did seem to aggravate an old or congenital lower back injury/deformity that is now going to require some surgery in later April. In the meantime I will be working some on clearing the space for this project in my shop starting this weekend in anticipation of moving the 88 into place to begin setting it up for some cutting; and I am finishing up a couple of small projects that I have been working at from time to time this winter.

I did locate and purchase most of the pieces to convert this car to 5-speed, all but the torque tube. I have some feelers out for one and hope to find one suitable for shortening the 2 inches planned in this project.

Thanks Carlos, for the picture just above. That is pretty close to what I think this project is going to end up looking like.
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Here is one radical custom 928 spotted in Stuttgart, Germany.
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http://www.autogespot.com/porsche-st...iii/2015/10/23

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Originally Posted by bureau13 View Post
That would certainly modernize the look. For me, however, the upward-facing pop-ups are an iconic part of the 928. I think I'd keep 'em...
+1,000

Look at cars like the Acura NSX and Ferrari Testarossa. They tried to update them by replacing the pop-up headlights an it ruined the look of the car.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather View Post
Thanks Carlos, for the picture just above. That is pretty close to what I think this project is going to end up looking like.
You're welcome, Jerry. Glad to help with picturing the concept.

Since it is close, I will start cleaning it up a bit, but all I have is Microsoft Paint right now, so it will take a while. Here is a little bit of clean up - I will update it over time. (Edit: stopping at version 6!)

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Just my $0.02 here.

I always loved the show “Overhaulin’” as Chip Foose is a Car Guy all the way through and right down to the heartbeat. Didn’t care for some of the projects but hugely admired the skills that brought the cars to completion.

My Overhaulin’/Custom 928 daydream is a car I call “Pascha.” Pascha is a bit like your imaginary friend from childhood – fondly remembered but never seen.

The finish is striped off of the car. All of the aluminum is polished like an old P-51 Mustang. Where the aluminum gives out and the steel begins, a beautiful, Pascha-like paint job in every Porsche color, ever starts. The color underneath does the Foose Fade. The colors on top have the small-square Pascha thing going. Every Porsche color ever is in there. They go from light to dark, front-to-back. They go from light to dark, top-to-bottom. The interior is a mix of Ferrari Daytona/caramel leather/Pascha all over the place. It’s gorgeous and turns heads everywhere.

A gentle and as-delivered mechanical refresh is completed. Even the catalysts work. No leaks. Starts every time. 19 mpg around town. 14 mpg at track days.

It does an average of 140 in the next year’s Silver State Challenge.

The Porsche Museum calls, asking about acquiring Pascha.

“Nope.” >

Good luck, Jerry!
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather View Post
I'm getting over some of the cabin fever now with some warmer weather showing up finally and with some improvement with my early December injury. However, the fall did seem to aggravate an old or congenital lower back injury/deformity that is now going to require some surgery in later April. In the meantime I will be working some on clearing the space for this project in my shop starting this weekend in anticipation of moving the 88 into place to begin setting it up for some cutting; and I am finishing up a couple of small projects that I have been working at from time to time this winter.

I did locate and purchase most of the pieces to convert this car to 5-speed, all but the torque tube. I have some feelers out for one and hope to find one suitable for shortening the 2 inches planned in this project.

Thanks Carlos, for the picture just above. That is pretty close to what I think this project is going to end up looking like.
I have a TT for you Jerry.
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