i bought my 928 and have paid the pric for not heeding purchase advice
#1
i bought my 928 and have paid the pric for not heeding purchase advice
i bought a79 928 5speed,it started,but clutch master was gone,couldnt drive it,no real records,had been in garage for about 5 years.body and interior are excellent.owner told me that he thought clutch and timing belt had been done.believe it or not i bought it.had it towed to my mechanic.he fixed clutch slave ,tells me brake master is gone as well as axle boots.then a oil leak happens when car is first started ,stops when its warm.he tells me probably cam cover seal.issue.it does start and runs well,passed smog.so after throwing more money at him he tells me its running hot,clutch fan bad and expansion tank leaking.he also fixed window switch.so now waiting for cam cover seals as well as throwing in a new timing belt.i think water pump is good.im having a heart attack,still love car,but i sure did this wrong.
i must say that when i drove it around the block it did make me smile.
it will be ready next week,but who knows what else will go.im used to working on air cooled porsches,and decided tol et my mechanic do all of the above,now im out of money and hope i can enjoy it for a while.i am fortunate to have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
i must say that when i drove it around the block it did make me smile.
it will be ready next week,but who knows what else will go.im used to working on air cooled porsches,and decided tol et my mechanic do all of the above,now im out of money and hope i can enjoy it for a while.i am fortunate to have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
#2
The first true, 100% Porsche engineered, German super car. Solid as if carved from a single block of metal. Weisach rear axle. The finest GT cruiser of its day. Your 928 is a significant piece of automotive history that not everyone has the chops to take on. This is a true man's Porsche and once you get a handle on it you will be rewarded with every turn of the key. I am right there with you brother; between 928sRUs and 928 International I just placed a $1000 order for my project 928, and I don't know if that will be the end of the cash suck. But I do know that I will enjoy the ride. Hang in there.
#4
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Hey there. Sounds rugged, but keep chin up as its not that bad. If in fact the oil leak is from high up (valve cover seal), it is not that much of a job. You've said you worked Porsches, so is absolutely doable. New cam seals and Reinz valve cover gaskets are really not hard to do. Mark or Roger can get you the parts. The car running hot is always the fan unless you coolant levels are really low. Leak from the expansion tank - from where ? - cap, cracked tank, hoses underneath ? - needs more investigation here. Do have to say that changing out tank is a bit of a chore. Lay up the car for this work while your doing the timing belt. Also as matter for the timing belt change look into to new idler and roller as well as dissecting the tensioner and cleaning it up. This all sound like a lot, but the valve cover work up top is simple stuff. I've attached a link which has step by step stuff for the later S4 models. Much will be applicable for you too.
Best Wishes (not luck)
http://dwaynesgarage.norcal928.org
Best Wishes (not luck)
http://dwaynesgarage.norcal928.org
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I've also been down the same road. I put my brain in neutral when I bought my 82, and had a list of things crop up the moment the initial blood rush diminished ... way more than yours if that's any consolation.
Body good .. check.
Interior good .. check.
Passed smog .. check.
Two potentially massively expensive items in good shape and it basically runs OK.
The mechanical issues you describe are reasonably common and not major, and remember in all of this that you've got a 36 year old car ... which sounds pretty good considering.
It put a smile on your face ... it'll continue to do so. Hang on in there ... you'll get plenty of support here.
Body good .. check.
Interior good .. check.
Passed smog .. check.
Two potentially massively expensive items in good shape and it basically runs OK.
The mechanical issues you describe are reasonably common and not major, and remember in all of this that you've got a 36 year old car ... which sounds pretty good considering.
It put a smile on your face ... it'll continue to do so. Hang on in there ... you'll get plenty of support here.
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^^ +1
Give both of them a call and introduce yourself as a new owner. You'll not only get good prices and service, but helpful advice in getting the right parts for the job you need to do and the most economical way to go.
BTW ... we need pics
Give both of them a call and introduce yourself as a new owner. You'll not only get good prices and service, but helpful advice in getting the right parts for the job you need to do and the most economical way to go.
BTW ... we need pics
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I suggest you concentrate your mind on the good news:
Rather than the bad, "... now im out of money."
You have definitely found the right place for 928 DIY and if you can work on the air-cooled cars you can work on your 928. A '79 is a simpler car and will have fewer gotchas and killer idiosynchrocies than the later ones. The engine is non-interference.
Read the New Visitor thread.
$75 for the Jim Morehouse workshop manuals and factory pubs CDs from 928srus.com should be your next $$.
Spend some time reading through this forum.
http://928classics.com/resources.html is your friend.
Relax, you're gonna have fun. You'll get more money. Nobody ever said Porsches were cheap fun.
... body and interior are excellent ... start and runs well,passed smog ... when i drove it around the block it did make me smile ... im used to working on -reference to more primitive automobiles removed- porsches, and ... have a good mechanic who has owned several 928s and experienced with them.
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
i need some support and encouragement resurrecting this car
You have definitely found the right place for 928 DIY and if you can work on the air-cooled cars you can work on your 928. A '79 is a simpler car and will have fewer gotchas and killer idiosynchrocies than the later ones. The engine is non-interference.
Read the New Visitor thread.
$75 for the Jim Morehouse workshop manuals and factory pubs CDs from 928srus.com should be your next $$.
Spend some time reading through this forum.
http://928classics.com/resources.html is your friend.
Relax, you're gonna have fun. You'll get more money. Nobody ever said Porsches were cheap fun.
Last edited by Fogey1; 11-07-2015 at 04:04 PM.
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A bunch of stuff can go wrong with a car while its been sitting for five years, especially a 35 year old car. The only way this deal is a bad deal is if you paid to much for the car...the rest of your story sounds about right for a car that has sat that long. Over time, you will get things sorted out. If the rest of the car is as nice as you say it is...you are in better shape than most.
Good luck, with the rest of your repairs. Post up some pictures when you get a chance.
Brian.
Good luck, with the rest of your repairs. Post up some pictures when you get a chance.
Brian.
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It's not that you didn't heed purchasing advice - buying a non-driver means trading uncertain expenditures for a fixed amount of money on the purchase price. For the repairs you're listing, you should still be ahead. Even a good driver is going to have a list of this magnitude after hidden issues are uncovered.
Judging by your writing style, you are either a creative type or you like taking shortcuts. Neither characteristic will be rewarded with 928 maintenance; you've got to think like a Porsche engineer.
Judging by your writing style, you are either a creative type or you like taking shortcuts. Neither characteristic will be rewarded with 928 maintenance; you've got to think like a Porsche engineer.
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Your problems are very typical of a 928 that has been sitting. I actually think you are quite lucky, the clutch master is a real bitch to change and the slave is much easier. Just take it day by day, it's like eating an elephant, you can't do it all in one bite lol!
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Keep your chin up! If the interior and exterior are good, you only have to deal with the clutch system and cams. Like everyone says, the cam seals are not too bad to get to or to replace. I have my entire engine out of the '78 5spd, and I am still reluctant to get to the clutch and brake masters due to rust and corrosion seeping through the hard lines and rubber seals.....Great to hear that you have someone with 928 experience working on the car.
However, since your car starts and runs well, you are definitely ahead of the game (WUR, Fuel Distributor, fuel pumps, etc all function). Best of luck and no one ever says owning a 928 is easy, but the reward is worth it (hearing the V-8 rumble).
However, since your car starts and runs well, you are definitely ahead of the game (WUR, Fuel Distributor, fuel pumps, etc all function). Best of luck and no one ever says owning a 928 is easy, but the reward is worth it (hearing the V-8 rumble).
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we all need to pitch in and establish a community retirement fund, or build some sort of retirement village for when we get old. We are all spending what would otherwise be smart 401K money on these cars and will someday pay the price. Hopefully, we can depend on each other for that phase of life as we do now for this phaseHaving said that, these cars are exceptional machines that when running as intended, make life worth living and then some
Hang in there, eventually the spend will be just for routine maintenance, and won't be so bad. Every now and again, slip a few bucks in you 401K
Hang in there, eventually the spend will be just for routine maintenance, and won't be so bad. Every now and again, slip a few bucks in you 401K