Randy V

More like unpossible.

hwyengr

Depends on whether it's any good. And with the track record of new models out of Porsche, that's not guaranteed.

Don't misunderstand, I'd love a new 928. But I'd be scared of it being a tarted-up A5, and that I wouldn't want.

Wisconsin Joe

"Clean Sheet" will never happen. The 928 was a once in a lifetime car.

There may well be a "new" GT in the future. Not too hard to shorten the Panamera a bit, make it a 2 door, take away 1/2 - 2/3 of the rear seat room.

I actually like the look of the Panamera (but my ex always said I had zero asthetic sense or taste). I think a 2 door version would be cool.

rlich8

You'll likely never see a front-engined, naturally aspirated eight cylinder two door coupe out of Porsche ever again.

If one wants a 928, they should just buy a 928.

Everything is turbos, hybrids, and electronic. The excessive nature of the 928 wouldn't fly in today's market.

dr bob

Regardless of what they build, it seems extremely unlikely that they's share the "928" designation with a new car, be it clean-sheet or parts-bin crafted.

Whatever they build will be taller, wider, longer, and more powerful. That Cayenne/Pana engine is just a fraction of a foot too tall to fit in a flat-nose car of 928 dimensions, and safety rules would put the bumper right up in the normal 928 sight line. And the competition is bigger in more ways that just physical size; to keep up with the Jones's is tougher, and Porsche has generally tried to be ahead of the curve rather than part of it; a new car would need to be something as revolutionary as the 928 was when it was introduced. And that is getting tougher every day.

James Bailey

Just heard a rumor that Ford was going to revive the Edsel name...... Looking at the production number year by year it was not that Porsche could not MAKE 928s it was simply that they could NOT SELL THEM.......I personally doubt that Porsche ever made any money on the 928 given what had to have been very high development costs, high production costs and such limited sales.

namasgt

There is a new 928 out there already. It just doesn't have the Porsche badge.
While people are saying that the 928 was the one and only clean sheet design car, what about the panamera? Or the new 918?

MFranke

I don't want Porsche to replace the 928s. I want to keep them the way they are.

Fogey1

Say what?

Adamant1971

Exactly.

Rob Edwards

RE: the element of the discussion about 928 values changing if a new 928-like model were to be introduced, I guess I'd ask whether VW beetles bumped when the New Beetle was introduced, or old Quattroportes bumped when the new Quattroportes were introduced, or old Boss 302s, or old Dodge Challengers, or Fiat 500s, etc. etc. In most cases I think the answer is 'no'.

GlenL

Curiously, I was reading your list and thought "Yes, yes, yes..."

Good press is good press. But... I doubt they'd ever make a "new 928" or "929" or any direct reference to the old 928 which is considered a commercial failure.

hacker-pschorr

Senior?
For the 1,000,000 time, I'm not Randy V!!!!

I tried, I really did.....

I also wanted a "catch-all" forum to put all the Chevy or other transplant engine projects. Both fell on deaf ears.....

Until Porsche makes an official announcement of the new model, no new forum.

I think I merged like 15 past "new 928" threads together a while back. I guess I could tack this one on the end.


You are missing the point.

The 928 was the first road car every created 100% by Porsche, in house on a clean sheet design. Nothing was carried over, copied or used from any other past model (not counting stupid **** like relay's). It was one of the most innovated and impressive cars to ever hit the show car circuit. Probably only shadowed by the Countach.....and look at the impact that car had on the automotive world.

Cars designed like the 928 do not exist anymore, at least not for less than 7 figures.
It's a bygone era that makes our cars so special and every single 928 owners should fully understand and respect this......Or be flogged repeatedly at SITM.

Actually that would be bad since people looking at the "new" 928 would never fully appreciate the "old" 928.
Do you honestly think the surgeon who just bought a $200,000 Porsche GT Coupe is going to pull up next to your 928 and go "Oh wow...never noticed how cool those were until I bought this....." He will most likely see your car as a degradation to his new ride, like the way most 911 owners look at 944's.

Keep dreaming, it doesn't work that way. People are not going to walk into a Porsche dealership looking at a $150,000 "new" 928 and go "Oh hell...I'll just pay $50k for this clapped out 87 S4 instead..."

If it does cause any appreciation for our cars, it's for the wrong reason and will be a short lived "spike" that doesn't help overall long term values.

It will be especially bad when the "new" 928 production swamps the market and those values tank on the resale market (have you seen what a used Panamera can had had for.......)
What do you thank a vintage 928 will be worth when a "new" one can be had for $20k at your neighborhood used car lot? My local sleeze-bag used car lot has three (yes three) Cayenne's parked next to rusty Kia's right now.
Go ask 1st generation Boxster owners what happened to the value of their cars when the 987 came out........

Agree 100%. They will produce a 2-door GT to compete with Aston Martin and the likes.....but it will not be a 928.

I see myself owning a Panamera someday. It will be a good car to drive in winter when I don't want to get my 928's messy.

That's the big difference between every modern Porsche (save the special cars like GT3's.....) and the vintage ones. The modern cars are throw away utensils. Produced in such high numbers there is little reason to "save" one for a rainy day. Just beat the living tar out of it until every last useful ounce is gone, toss it in the ditch and buy another.
Not something I would do with a 928.


There are cars on the road with the same essence as the 928 with a more modern feel, but I wouldn't call them a 928. Much like a good bottle of wine from 2015 will do just fine on my table, but a vintage one would do much better.......assuming it was properly stored and cared for (like a 928).
Do people order PPI's on expensive vintage bottles of wine?

It was until the Boxster came out. But even then it borrowed the engine design from the 911 and the Panamera took a lot from the Cayenne power-train.

Crumpler

Ok, I hate to be a big old Missouri fly in the ointment, but I was researching market trends on Hagerty while Hacker was typing.
Points well taken, BTW.

Using Rob's examples, I can cross reference generic market values based on years:

The old Challengers did experience a sharp increase in value 2013-14 as the third generation car is released to the general public.

The old Boss 302's spike in 2013, with the intro of the second generation in 2013.

The Quattroportes experience a surge in 2013 as Maserati releases the sixth generation car.

The beetle, well who cares, but conditions one and two, old cars, appreciated quickly with the issue of the updated new beetle.

Could all be a coincidence, then again...

Crumpler

The good news you guys is that I don't have the final say at the next board meeting to implement production of the new 928.
So you're all safe for the time being.