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CIS cold idle rough start and high idle with surges

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Old 06-19-2015, 05:02 PM
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The continuing saga of my CIS system.

Car runs well when warm.

Cold it starts immediately but stumbles and idles at 300-500 for about 8 seconds at which point it surges to about 2000 RPM and then cycles from 2000 down to a rough idle below 1000 and in a second or two surges back to 2000.

it repeats this a couple of times and then settles down but will nor run smoothly for another couple of minutes.

Never seen this behavior before and its really starting to challenge my patience
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sounds like a vacuum leak somewhere
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Does sound like an air leak - try spraying kero or wd40 (something just flammable, not fuel) on all the inlet joints and listen for a change of idle. Also down the back of the throttle body where the AAV hose goes - that hose strikes me as being prone to going hard and brittle. Also check the AC extra air solenoid and its hoses.
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I will take another look but have previously replaced all vacuum lines coming off throttle body, AC valve, Aux air valve and air gallery with new tubing / hoses. Also had the intake out and replaced all runner gaskets, injector seals, air gallery to runner rubber and throttle body base o-ring 2 summers ago

Just drives me crazy that it runs so poorly on start and for the first minute or so and then settles down to run/ accelerate seemingly with out issue.

What about Decel valve, EGR etc?



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