KenRudd

Matt,
I see what you are saying, but the real complicating factor in this case is the recessed nature of these decals. I've removed plenty of surface level decals and badges before, but the sunken decals make this much more challenging.

KenRudd

And Fixer, not taking your comments as you really being a jerk. I asked for advice and you gave it.

KenRudd

I'd add pictures, but for some reason, Rennlist isn't taking them, whether I try uploading them directly or try to link to them on Photobucket. I've done it dozens of time before, but failing tonight.

KenRudd

I'm done being pissed off about it. It's not my first 928 repair that spiraled into more work and won't be the first time I've had to re-spray some paint.

KenRudd

As a note, and again for anybody that battles this in the future: If I had just been satisfied with getting the color layer off and then putting on the nice raised letting that is now sold by Jager, this thread would have been 15 posts shorter, ending at post #21 by Stan. He was right as usual. The color layer really did come off easy with some heat, and the new letters would have hidden the old adhesive pretty well.

FreedP

Lighter fluid is a great adhesive remover.
Let it soak with several applications and it should loosen the glue.
I have used it on many different materials without a problem.
Have not used for this application.

The Fixer

Ken, I'll try and be nice because i really don't care now but

reading your results frustrated me

Because you NEVER responded in any way to my posts. I figured you didn't take my advice seriously.

That's frustrating to read as all this mess could have been avoided. THIS is what i do.

Then again, i would never have foreseen that you'd tape off the letter recesses
BEFORE soaking in solvent. New tape can't stand up to adhesive remover.

I won't bother giving you any more paint related advice in the future.

Go to Stan the painter, he's always right.

The Fixer

For all that are searching: how to remove old stuck on vinyl lettering and to re apply new lettering

Steps to take,

1. Take your time there is no rush

2. Get a new #11 Exacto blade and carefully cut through the old letters in a 45 degree hatch pattern to allow the XYLENE to get in and loosen the adhesive. Use an old tooth brush to brush in slow dry solvent, repeat, look and see whether it's beginning to take effect. Bits will begin to fall away.
Should take some time but again there is no rush.

3. Wipe dry and tape off your paint where working at removing old letters (with a tool)

if a tool is needed for stubborn lettering use a $3 plastic auto body tool to carefully scrape away vinyl letters. There are different designs. I have a few that work perfectly for this and can send a pic.

4. Clean up remaining glue with dremel and cotton wheel soaked in Xylene and wear goggles. Use tape if a plastic wheel is needed.

A little glue left over will not matter as it will never be detected under the new lettering.

5. Apply new PORSCHE decal. I know of a guy in the UK that makes them and made mine in Avatar.

Problems? pm me i can help.

Mrmerlin

Ken the reason I was giving you the advice I did was because I had first hand knowledge,
since this was my car, but you know that.

I was going to refresh the rear letters and after seeing the condition that they were in,
trying to remove them and install fresh stickers was going to most probably result in stripping and then respray.

So this is why I suggested the plastic letters, they would have made this an easier job and neater ,
with less damage to the bodywork.
Before I got that job done the car was sold .

I will say this after having spent some time with Matt,
Matt is a very meticulous craftsman and he has lots of great ideas,
If he takes the time to share his wisdom its a good idea to try what he suggests,
as he is usually spot on.

I am sorry that your rear PU has not turned out the way you wanted.

KenRudd

I appreciate the feedback Stan & Matt. However, its really not that big a deal. I hope I did not give the impression that I was really upset. Mildly peeved would be the strongest terms I would use. The car is not a concours queen in any case, it's a 200k mile daily driver that also gets flogged at the track regularly. The bumper was due for a spray anyhow. I learned a few things, we posted the conversation here so the next guy might have better luck and I get to practice my prep and spray technique a little more. Could be worse.