1986.5 Black / Red 5-speed with LSD - 43k miles - need opinions on current value
#31
Think $18-$25k depending upon the marketing & how much the buyer really wants it. As desirable and limited as a 86.5 5spd with LSD combo'd 928 is, such a low mileage car would be typically purchased to park for investment value anyways. So its not like the typical buyer will take advantage of those options in long term driving pleasure of the car. You wouldn't ever expect to even need to use the LSD on it. So of course its mostly the rarity of the combination of the options and low mileage that is driving the desirability and price. As opposed to the same car with higher mileage being purchased to convert for track use.
Regarding the fading/not fading to yellow of the red trim; Seems like all of the ones mentioned here that are fading are pre-S4s, and the non fading cars were S4s. Perhaps a change in the leather trim somehow with the newer model?
Love that '85 5 spd posted earlier with the Dunkelblau/Champagne color combo. Looks very sharp in person. Course I'm particularly partial!!
Regarding the fading/not fading to yellow of the red trim; Seems like all of the ones mentioned here that are fading are pre-S4s, and the non fading cars were S4s. Perhaps a change in the leather trim somehow with the newer model?
Love that '85 5 spd posted earlier with the Dunkelblau/Champagne color combo. Looks very sharp in person. Course I'm particularly partial!!
#32
Nordschleife Master
1st post. I'm in the market for an 86+ 928S, and I'm wondering why this one is so special as to fetch ~$20K? Is it because manual-transmission and LSD? Is it because of the low-mileage? Combination of both?
What's an automatic with less than 100K on it worth? They sure don't seem to go for more than $12K or so.
What's an automatic with less than 100K on it worth? They sure don't seem to go for more than $12K or so.
Take away either of the first two and there's a huge drop.
Auto will be worth a bit less.
Edit to add: There's also a big value jump between a US model 85 or early 86 and the later 86 (known as the 86.5). The 86.5 has the suspension and brakes that ended up in the 87 and later S4. The Euro 86 had the later brakes & suspension for the entire model year.
Last edited by Wisconsin Joe; 11-02-2014 at 11:00 AM.
#33
Nordschleife Master
1st post. I'm in the market for an 86+ 928S, and I'm wondering why this one is so special as to fetch ~$20K? Is it because manual-transmission and LSD? Is it because of the low-mileage? Combination of both?
What's an automatic with less than 100K on it worth? They sure don't seem to go for more than $12K or so.
What's an automatic with less than 100K on it worth? They sure don't seem to go for more than $12K or so.
What it will sell for will depend on the buyers for such a car at the time is put up for sale, and time constraints on how long to wait for a buyer.
#34
Drifting
It's a great year and a manual.
That said, i would have to change out that red interior or have it dyed brown.
That blk/rd would work very nice on a 356 but
on a 928 i find it hideous. Not exaggerating.
I think it brings the value down.
That said, i would have to change out that red interior or have it dyed brown.
That blk/rd would work very nice on a 356 but
on a 928 i find it hideous. Not exaggerating.
I think it brings the value down.
#35
Rennlist Member
Great car, great options, great year! I estimate 19-28k value. The black/lobster red, IMHO is really good. The Lobster red to most is either love or hate, but to me it pops and goes great with the black exterior.
#36
Burning Brakes
I'd certainly say in the $20-30K range. Looks like a really nice car that just needs fair bit of cleaning. Black/red is one of my favorite color combo's.
#37
Nordschleife Master
To the average buyer, almost certainly.
However, in the world of collector one-upmanship, having a car that is more demonstrably "special" is important, compared to all the other examples out there. IMO, the ones which will see the serious values are the ones which have the more unusual interior colours and option combinations. Especially stuff like "leather to sample", and exclusiv option codes.
Willhoit may have set the high bar so far with some of the 928's he's sold, but I think the examples he's sold haven't been that special, just low miles and good condition. If something like this GTS that showed up in SLC comes up for sale, I think we'll see the high bar jump a lot (assuming its even exchanged on the open market and we get to see a price).
The car Hacker asked about has, in addition to mileage and condition and being manual, also got an unusual (and very period) colour interior in its original factory condition, and its got full leather (every interior panel except the pod). Both of those immediately put it well beyond what a car with a more popular (i.e. conservative, like black or cashmere) interior colour with a vinyl dash could fetch. Similarly, of the early cars, I think Pascha and Tartan will end up bringing the high-price. The problem this 86 has is that currently, the market doesn't value them as much as a GTS or a 78 in similar condition. That may change over time, in which case, out of comparable 86's, this will do well.
However, in the world of collector one-upmanship, having a car that is more demonstrably "special" is important, compared to all the other examples out there. IMO, the ones which will see the serious values are the ones which have the more unusual interior colours and option combinations. Especially stuff like "leather to sample", and exclusiv option codes.
Willhoit may have set the high bar so far with some of the 928's he's sold, but I think the examples he's sold haven't been that special, just low miles and good condition. If something like this GTS that showed up in SLC comes up for sale, I think we'll see the high bar jump a lot (assuming its even exchanged on the open market and we get to see a price).
The car Hacker asked about has, in addition to mileage and condition and being manual, also got an unusual (and very period) colour interior in its original factory condition, and its got full leather (every interior panel except the pod). Both of those immediately put it well beyond what a car with a more popular (i.e. conservative, like black or cashmere) interior colour with a vinyl dash could fetch. Similarly, of the early cars, I think Pascha and Tartan will end up bringing the high-price. The problem this 86 has is that currently, the market doesn't value them as much as a GTS or a 78 in similar condition. That may change over time, in which case, out of comparable 86's, this will do well.
Last edited by Hilton; 11-02-2014 at 11:39 PM.