Bill Ball

It's about 2-3" short of covering the lift points adequately. It contacts only 1/2" or so. So, yes, it needs something like lift bars to extend its reach a bit.

Jay Luciano

Sorry I did not realize this is a Porche only sight. Well my motor looks a lot like one

dr bob

This particular list is dedicated to the 928, the front-engined V8 car. The lift points/pads are pretty much at the ends of the rocker sills, so virtually any trapezoid lift will have trouble mating with the pads. There are a couple other places strong enough to use for lifting, none unfortunately where this lift might contact directly.

One of our enthusiast-inventors came up with a "lift bar" that mates with the factory pads, allowing an owner to use a regular floor jack to lift the whole side of the car in one shot from the middle of the bar. A set of those, with a couple extra pads or blocks added to the underside, would be a great solution. It might also allow the car to be set on stands (under the lift bars) so the lifts could be removed from under the car while its raised, for better side access between the wheels.

StratfordShark

Great to find this thread as I was just researching the QuickJack along with other lift options, since it's now available in UK.

I was about to go into the garage to measure the 928 lift point distance, then found the info on the car list given on the Easylift site!

That has the 928 as having 55.0" between the lift points front to rear. The 5000b version of the QuickJack has max distance between rubber lift blocks of 50.5", which confirms Bill Ball's point that it's too short.

Cross that one off the list for now which is a shame. Light enough to move around the garage and a useful working height.

Fogey1

Ken redesigned them and he's making them again. There's a thread somewhere.
http://liftbars.com/

And here it is:
WTB: Lift Bars - 78-86
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...s-78-86-a.html

With the announcement post, from 4/14/15:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post12203509
Early-Liftbars are go!
10 lbs (5/ea) lighter weight than the old version! Each bar can now be used on either side and will fit late 928 (and other types), just with a little less jack clearance.
Introductory priced the same as the other types but may eventually be higher (unique laser-cut parts, more labor).
http://liftbars.com
(Thanks to Keith M. for use of his '80 for testing.)

Bill Ball

Just FYI, I bought a Quickjack BL5000 even though I was fairly certain it would not reach the jack points. And so I found. They are about 56" apart outer edge to outer edge and this thing only spans 50" max. It won't reach one jack point if you even partially engage the other. Also, because of hanging Weissach forward mounts and low body cavities nearby, the frame must be placed considerably outward (off-center) to avoid contact of the inside edge of the frame with these obstructions. Not good. Finally, the lift will not span the jack points if you turn it 90 degrees and try to span the width of the car, an alternative arrangement.

In the meantime Ranger has announced the BL5000-XL with a 59" span. That might work. One concern would be that the collapsed parallelogram frame would be too long to fit between the tires with enough clearance so the ends will clear the tires as it lifts. Ranger seems to have recognized this as although the lift points are 9" further apart, the collapsed frame is only 3" longer. This reduces the maximum lift a bit. I THINK this will work, but even my 3" shorter BL5000 barely clears the tires.

http://www.bendpak.com/Shop-Equipmen...BL-5000XL.aspx

PorKen

Bill - a couple of peeps have emailed me about the Quickjack and Liftbars, which won't work together, but I could make something simpler that sits on top, if there is enough room.

bureau13

It would seem those scissor-lifts that were discussed a couple months ago would be better for space-challenged garages. Not really portable per se, although you can roll them around and you don't need to drill into your floor (I don't think).

Bill Ball

The main claim to fame with the Quickjack is better portability. I can store it in a closet area, putting the frames upright. I'm seriously limited as to storage space in my new living arrangement, so I jumped.

Even with the new XL model, the major problem I see is the width of the frames causes them to hit other obstructions, and moving the frame out away from them makes the lift unsafe since it is then no longer centered under the lift point.

So, Ken, in order to solve this problem we would need something like a liftbar to extend reach, at least for the BL5000 model, and raise the lift point, for both the BL5000 and BL5000XL, so the underlying frame will be below the level of the obstructions I mentioned. Let me do some measurements.

Mongo

I helped a guy do an engine out on a 355 with a Bendpak which is similar to this type of mid-rise lift.

They are quite stable and have one on my Christmas list.

Richard S

I would buy one of these in a heartbeat if it would work on our 928's.

Bill/Ken, I hope you can come up with a solution based on your measurements. Keep us informed.

Thanks, Rich.

PorKen

http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/...ifications.jpg

There is ~7" ground clearance to the '86.5-up lift pads at stock 928 spring heights. The lift point holes are 54-1/8" apart, inside pad to pad is ~52". The BL is ~3" tall and ~52" long. Doesn't stick out too far then, so I might be able to use fairly low profile tube or channel to connect the pads.


A spacer bar like this would also work for something I thought about long ago - a bar to use with a two-post lift to make it faster to align and lift.

FredR

What do these things do that the liftbar concept does not?

The liftbars and a set of axle stands/trolly jack is cheaper, about as quick to raise, less obtrusive & less volume to store- not to mention the Quick Jack system- neat as it is- does not really fit a 928 and can only be used on the 928 if some adapters are made - am I missing something here?

Rgds

Fred

Bill Ball

The Quickjack is more stable than jack stands at 22+".

PorKen

Bill - I just need to know how much space is needed between the pads and the BL frame to clear the rear seats, or whatever else is in the way.