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Old 03-12-2014, 10:26 PM
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These three photos are from the left (low number fuse) heading incrementally right. This is my spare 81 CE panel that uses fuses 10 and 13.
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David - thanks!

See any other linked like that?

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Alan,

See any other linked like that?
If that question is directed to me, then I do not understand what you are asking for. Will you please clarify the question?

Thanks!
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David yes question to you:

On the lower row of the fuse inputs the middle set are linked from from 14-23 (30 - battery) , then 9-13 are linked (15 - ignition) and 5-8 are linked (X- Accessory), your picture show that...

Are any others linked like this - perhaps just in pairs? or are all the rest just individual terminals?

It looks to me like 3 & 4 are also linked? any more like that?

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Alan,

The short answer to your question is that 3-4 are connected, 5-8 connected, 9-13 connected, 14-23 connected, 24-25 connected, 26-27 connected, 30-31 connected, and 32-33 connected.

1981 CE Spare Panel Fuse Source Connections

01 Relay XII
02 Terminal B1
03 Terminal B7
04 Terminal B7
05 X Bus
06 X Bus
07 X Bus
08 X Bus
09 15 Bus
10 15 Bus
11 15 Bus
12 15 Bus
13 15 Bus
14 30 Bus
15 30 Bus
16 30 Bus
17 30 Bus
18 30 Bus
19 30 Bus
20 30 Bus
21 30 Bus
22 30 Bus
23 30 Bus
24 Headlight Relay XIX-XX (High Beam output)
25 Headlight Relay XIX-XX (High Beam output)
26 Headlight Relay XIX-XX (Low Beam output)
27 Headlight Relay XIX-XX (Low Beam output)
28 Terminal B3
29 Terminal B4
30 Terminal E5
31 Terminal E5
32 Terminal E6
33 Terminal E6
34 Terminal E2

All connections are exactly as listed in the 1981 Current Flow Diagrams except the use of fuses in slots 10 and 13 (those connections are straight from the 15 Bus to the terminal in the diagrams.) All connections were verified on the spare panel using a voltmeter.
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Not sure if mentioned previously but my GTS with DRL uses the fog lights rendering the fog light switch non-operational.

Not sure how that affects anything on the fuse/relay panel and/or the wiring. If you need me to check something pls let me know.
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Originally Posted by qdac
Alan,

The short answer to your question is that 3-4 are connected, 5-8 connected, 9-13 connected, 14-23 connected, 24-25 connected, 26-27 connected, 30-31 connected, and 32-33 connected.
David thanks - more linked than I thought even.

All these are shown in the top section of the diagrams as linked - so I assume that is consistent in usage (and that these aren't typically individually wired) - will look at some others now...

I would be interested to hear of the configurations of other years wrt these (1977-1984 panels) if others have easy access, good photos or a spare panel to look at.

Alan
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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
Not sure if mentioned previously but my GTS with DRL uses the fog lights rendering the fog light switch non-operational.

Not sure how that affects anything on the fuse/relay panel and/or the wiring. If you need me to check something pls let me know.
Malcolm - no I understand that - and it shouldn't have any other effects.

Alan
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Originally Posted by Alan
Arnoud - thanks

Relay VIII - I think its actually a bridge between 30-87 (all ROW GTS + '91 S4 should have this)

Relay XIII - yes I have already added the original flasher ID (same as you noted - all years)

Relay XXII - 928.615.203.00 & 141.951.253.B are functionally equivalent (first additionally has the fuse tester feature - it can be used anywhere a 53B is used (and V-V). My car did not have a fuse tester when I got it (so like yours) wasn't sure if it was never installed or had been replaced ... so maybe it was more Porsche economizing in late production...?

Alan
Regarding relay VIII: I re-checked and this is a beyond embarrasing mistake on my behalf. Indeed you are correct that this is a short between pin '30' to '87', those being the relay main switch pin's on this one (while pin '86' and '87' are the relay coil pin's). I will update my post #131 accordingly now.

Regarding relay XXII: you are most likely correct with Porsche economizing on this item in the late production.
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Originally Posted by Ed Scherer
I just went out to double check that XXIII-XXIV is really 928.618.107.01 and not 928.618.107.04. It's definitely .01.
Alan: I should have brief access to my '90 Euro on Monday. Is there still some uncertainly about the headlight relay p/n fitted in that year? If so I can swing by and check,
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Originally Posted by Alan
I would be interested to hear of the configurations of other years wrt these (1977-1984 panels) if others have easy access, good photos or a spare panel to look at.

Alan
Alan-

I'll be pulling out my CE Panel for a full refresh Sunday and should be able to send you photos of the configurations in question for a 1984.

-tom
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Post #94 with pending/implemented changes was updated again (still working through remaining review comments)...

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Originally Posted by Alan
Post #94 with pending/implemented changes was updated again (still working through remaining review comments)... Alan

Alan, here's a direct link to post #94:
https://rennlist.com/forums/11150525-post94.html
<let me know if you don't want it here and I'll delete it>

And a note/reminder - you write in that post:

CE Panel Type Detail: ..........
928.610.105.05 1982 USA, 1983 USA Manual
928.610.105.06 1982-1983 ROW, 1983 USA Auto........

... and ...

Available Plug sockets with no terminals used [25% or less terminals used]: .........
928.610.105.05 (1982 USA, 1983 USA Manual) - R, X (Y?) (+Z w/ no-alarm)
928.610.105.06 (1982-1983 ROW, 1983 USA Auto) - R, X, Y (+Z w/ no-alarm).....

Contrary to those CE Panel part number assignments, there are at least two 1983 928S US Manual Transmissions that have a CE Panel with the part #928.610.105.06.
Mine and Tony's (ANTsDVS).
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Originally Posted by Fogey1
Alan, here's a direct link to post #94:
https://rennlist.com/forums/11150525-post94.html
<let me know if you don't want it here and I'll delete it>

And a note/reminder - you write in that post:

CE Panel Type Detail: ..........
928.610.105.05 1982 USA, 1983 USA Manual
928.610.105.06 1982-1983 ROW, 1983 USA Auto........

... and ...

Available Plug sockets with no terminals used [25% or less terminals used]: .........
928.610.105.05 (1982 USA, 1983 USA Manual) - R, X (Y?) (+Z w/ no-alarm)
928.610.105.06 (1982-1983 ROW, 1983 USA Auto) - R, X, Y (+Z w/ no-alarm).....

Contrary to those CE Panel part number assignments, there are at least two 1983 928S US Manual Transmissions that have a CE Panel with the part #928.610.105.06.
Mine and Tony's (ANTsDVS).
Yes - I'm still trying to unravel those differences and the key determiner of what panel is used....?

I added a direct link in my post too (I think it was there in previous references back to post #94).

Alan
Old 04-02-2014, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan
... I added a direct link in my post too (I think it was there in previous references back to post #94). Alan

DOH! So you did. In that sophisticated, computer-literate way that turns a word into a hot link.

It's more than i can do AND I missed it in the post. Double DOH!!!


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