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Old 12-26-2013, 11:38 PM
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Default My new rule of thumb when working on these old cars!

Assume that everything not metal is going to break when you disassemble it... This works because whenever you crack anything open on a 928, if there's any plastic bits in there, assume they all need to be replaced. Damn cars!

Oh and also, any 32V cam timing tools available for loan or rent in Southern Ontario?
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Yeah, I chased my tail for some time on a cracking engine harness before giving up. I recently scored a new one but haven't installed it yet.

Good luck with the valve timing. Can't wait to see pics of your car running and on the road.


And sorry, but I just couldn't resist.

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................... If you don't like working on them all the time, go buy brand new, trade them in every couple years, and stop bitching.
Old 12-27-2013, 03:13 AM
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I have to replace a rear A arm, rebuild both half shafts, put on new shocks, and build a new fuel injection harness in two weeks.

Parts that are metal on mine break and I only drive it on the street.
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Wasn't complaining, just something i noticed.
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That's something that should be part of the purchase agreement for anyone buying a car built over 20 years ago.

Just because the car looks good and was built to last, it doesn't mean that every part will last forever. Plastic changes properties over time, as does rubber, grease and all other types of non-metallic parts.

Heat soak, ozone and time do terrible things to these parts and there is nothing you can do about those things.
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Matt,
Martin's got my 32V'r right now, but you're welcome to borrow it when he's done.
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Really? Thanks alot! I'll PM him.

Don't you still need to use the cam profile block thing to make sure the intake/exhaust cams are synchronized? Or is just aligning the chain and cam marks close enough?

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The cam profile block thing looks like a nice way to quickly check, but if you're careful and follow the WSM, you can do fine without.
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Just use the notches on the cams and the number of chain links between per the WSM. and you should be fine. I have used the cam tool and it doesn't align perfectly to the cam lobes. Make sure the crank is in it's correct position, which if I remember correctly is at 45 degrees.
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Alright. The 32V tool replaces the dial indicator method then right? Just stick the pin in for 0 degrees and line it up? Exhaust/intake cam relation is set, i used the measurement and it was just a little over 113 or whatever the spec is.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Depami, i can't wait either. Hope and pray for no leaks. Being my first project car i've learned alot, and i want to do it again. It's one of those "if i knew then what i know now" things, i could have avoided alot of mistakes and wasted time. No major screw ups though, and interior doesn't need anything. I was sitting in the car tonight just imagining driving it... wish i did like everyone else does and just work on stuff a little at a time but keep it driveable.
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
<snip>. wish i did like everyone else does and just work on stuff a little at a time but keep it driveable.
That's not what everyone else does. I think if you checked with everyone who has a daily driver there was one period early on in their ownership when the car was down and parts were everywhere for at least a few weeks and in many cases much longer. My car was up in the air for over a month at one time when I did the MM/Pan gasket job. Then when I did the carpet and seat covers it was another few weeks.

Hang in there man.
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Problem is i have OCD with that. First it was just the motor, then the hubs, bearings, paint calipers, drain old gas and take out tank, well might as well R/R fuel lines, take torque tube out to investigate that, might as well R/R shift linkages and take off front rod in preparation for Colin's shifter...

I like doing it but i'd like to feel what it's like to drive a 928. From sitting in the drivers seat imagining, i think i'll like it.
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Yeah, and hindsight is 20/20, this never applied more. I want to do this all again though because now i know what i need to do.



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