rnixon

Thanks for thinking of me. A GTS isn't worth the price premium to me. I'm not looking for price appreciation, just driving appreciation

If it had been the the West coast, I'd have probably gone to see if it'd persuade me though!

Fnic99

Nice looking black 1991 S4.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251411765045...84.m1423.l2649

rnixon

Still looking.

GregBBRD

Although the '90 and '91 cars appear to be almost identical....a couple of the "updates" make the '91 very desirable. The airbag update, alone, is 6K worth of parts....which would be no big deal, if the '90 system was good....but as almost anyone "in the business" knows....the '90 system has a very high failure rate.

The second huge update was in the clutches for the PSD system....greatly improved, in '91.

Because of the many problems with the GTS vehicles, I personally consider the 1991 to be the pinnacle of the 928 program. The rear flares are really nice looking on the GTS....but don't make up for the engine problems in these vehicles.

SteveG

The car Fnic links is nice. At that price I think it will be around a little longer; it's been listed several times on ebay. Just in case anyone is looking, he knows it is not "full leather" and still lists it as such, but still a nice car. If it has significant service history as he says (but doesn't list), it might be worth a look.

rnixon

Yes - that car was suggested before, but the interior colour isn't something that i could live with.

Thanks,

Roger

rnixon

Thanks for the info. It's good to have it confirmed that it's worth holding-out for a '91, despite the difficulty of find one!

GregBBRD

From '89 on, any one particular model and year is difficult to find....especially when you have a specific color combination, in mind.

Porsche simply did not make very many of these vehicles.

MFranke

91 also brings better sound insulation compared to previous years. The door seals are like the GTS. The mats and spare cover have integrated foam and are molded to seal. The late runs also have rear wheel liners like GTS.
It is a big difference in ride quality IMO.

Fnic99

When I bought my car, a blk/blk 1991, I decided to look for a car in the 70-90k mile range. I thought to myself that if I paid a premium for low mileage, I may be reluctant to use the car frequently. I just wanted to enjoy the car without thinking about it.

Since the car is probably a toy, I would hold out to get exactly what you want.

rnixon

My thinking is that a low mileage car in good condition will not require wear items replacing for a lot longer. Those add up very quickly, both in money and hassle.

mickster

Age is as damaging to rubber as mileage. A low mileage car with original fuel lines is a fire waiting to happen.

Unless (and even then) the car is in a climate controlled garage, it's going to need lots of things.

Antifreeze that hasn't been changed in years? Fuel? Adds up.

If it's a maintained car, that's the key.

What you get in a low-mile 928 are less squeaks (unless the rubber has deteriorated with age) and a newish interior/exterior engine parts.

Still-lots will need to be done...nature of the cars.

rnixon

Yes, I'm aware of that, and the need for regular fluid changes to have been done.

Sure, I was just wanting to avoid replacing things like torque tube and wheel bearings for a good few years.

GregBBRD

Low mileage cars generally drive like low mileage cars....really tight. The difference is absolutely amazing.

That being said, it takes literally a nano second to disable a digital dash's speedo and odometer.....

So not all "low mileage" cars drive like a low mileage car should drive.

Crossworth

Because of the many problems with the GTS vehicles, I personally consider the 1991 to be the pinnacle of the 928 program. The rear flares are really nice looking on the GTS....but don't make up for the engine problems in these vehicles.


Not to hi-jack rnixon's thread/post in search for a 91GT....but Mr. Brown's comment about the 928GTS's have "engine problems" did peak my curiosity.

If it is not to much to ask Gregg please comment further on the engine problems, and anything else you wish to share on the GTS's.

Although we have never met...I almost called you late 2010 for a PPI. I was looking to buy a GTS in SoCal. Nicole gave me your info.

Your opinions and comments are greatly regarded by me, and I think it is safe to say I can speak for some of us in the 928 community.

I consider your post as the holy grail in the 928 realm.

Disclosure: I do have a 93GTS 5spd (95,800miles ). I am big fan of the 928's of any era. Used to own an 88s4, that I sold to Tim & Cheryl Day, which they turned into a rocket ship. I "believe" it holds a land speed record.