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Rob Edwards 08-02-2013 07:11 PM

Friday time-killer: 928 Engine-Transmission Production Numbers, 1982-1995
 
The recent kerfuffle about M28.11/12 motors for sale got me to thinking about exactly how uncommon they may be. And I had two hours to kill while all three kids were getting the biannual dental maintenance. Which led to some tedious editing and COUNTIFfing in Excel.

I don't recall seeing this data presented in this manner before, perhaps I missed it. Anyway, it's a list of the production numbers of each engine and transmission type from 1982 to 1995 (AFAIK the data doesn't exist for '78-81) . There are a few glitches in the dataset where there was no engine code info for a given car (or where there was just a 'C' or an 'M'), and a couple of cars with 'automatic' engines mated to a 5-speed, which may be real or is just a typo.

You can see the 9 Clusbport cars (M28.41/G28.55), for instance.


Should be self-explanatory, some combos are US. only, some are ROW-only, some are both.

If anyone really cares, it would be relatively simple to break it out by country of origin for the ROW cars, but I doubt anyone cares. :)


Anyway, FWIW:

Code:

Engine        Trans        ROW        USA        Auto        5-speed
C                        8        6        2
M                3        65        65        3
M28.09        G28.05        218                          218
M28.10        A22.01        230                230       
M28.11        G28.05        1498                          1498
M28.12        A22.04        1861                1861       
M28.15        G28.05                1057                1057
M28.16        A22.01                1571        1571       
M28.19        G28.08                1518                1518
M28.20        A28.01                3573        3573       
M28.21        G28.07        1728                          1728
M28.22        A28.02 (1984)        1248                1248       
M28.22        A28.03 (1984)        72                72       
M28.22        A28.05 (1985)        558                558       
M28.22        A28.05 or 06 (1985)        93                93       
M28.22        A28.06 (1985)        769                769       
M28.22        A28.08 (1986)        364                364       
M28.22        A28.09 (1986)        637                637       
M28.41        A28.13        4                4       
M28.41        A28.14        1                1       
M28.41        G28.12        1845        200                200
M28.41        G28.13                1015                1015
M28.41        G28.55        9                        9
M28.42        A28.12        445        3202        3647       
M28.42        A28.13        2                2       
M28.42        A28.14        2969                2969       
M28.42        A28.16        4599        1429        6028       
M28.42        G28.13        2                        2
M28.43        G28.11                1424                1424
M28.44        A28.04 ('85-'86)                2023                 
M28.44        A28.07        1470                       
M28.45        G28.10        109                         
M28.46        A28.11        306                306       
M28.47        G28.55        1677        405                2082
M28.49        G28.57        482        163                645
M28.50        A28.18        2016        243        2259


ROG100 08-02-2013 10:15 PM

You are a sick puppy - but thank you - trust your teeth are OK?

OTR18WHEELER 08-02-2013 11:04 PM

:confused: my '85 M28.44, A28.04 is an automatic, your list shows all as 5 sp.

Reddog2 08-03-2013 02:07 AM

Well - this is interesting. Doesn't look like too many M28.45s. Hopefully I won't need to find any replacements for mine.

Ferri 05-24-2014 01:02 PM

Hi there,

First I guess I should introduce me as it is my first message. Briefly, I'm a Porsche fan that had a Boxster S, a 997S, a 997 TT and now I 'just' have a 996 C4S and a 993 C2 Cabrio. Clearly I'm moving to classics / youngtimers and that's why I'm looking for a 928.

Well, now the question. In my searching, I wanted a 928GT, and I contacted with a guy that said to have one. In the vehicle specs appears like a S4, however the sticker shows combination engine / gearbox M28.41 / G28.55, that following this post doesn't fit neither S4 or GT. So, could be a CS unit? Somebody knows how can I identify it?

Thank you very much in advance and happy to be in the community!

Ferri

Rob Edwards 05-24-2014 01:32 PM

Hi Ferri, welcome!


There are only 9 928's with the combination of M28.41 and G28.55. 4 in Germany, 2 in France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Britain and 1 from Spain.

The Spanish car is an '89. What's the VIN of the car you're looking at?

Ferri 05-24-2014 01:42 PM

Hi Rob,

Thank you so much for your response. Unfortunately I don't have the VIN, because I just took a picture focused on codes, but I can ask for it. It is a chance to find out if is a CS with VIN? I've read in some posts that they are in same series that S4.

Thanks again and best

Ferri

hb4 05-24-2014 02:45 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here's the results of a search on the CS engine/trans combo from the new OC web page and Registry coming soon. Thanks to Rob for his help in this.

Attachment 837217

Attachment 837223


Probably is or has been a topic for another thread, but when I do a filter for Option Code 637 "Special Version "Club Sport" 88" I get 7 of the 9 CS cars above and an additional 12 cars with G28.12 or G28.13 gearboxes.

Rob Edwards 05-24-2014 03:00 PM

Yes, somewhere in an older thread Erkka makes a comment about some CSs having G28.1X gearboxes. Not sure whether that's based on seeing the cars in person or on VIN searches.

Ferri 05-24-2014 03:06 PM

I've got the VIN, so it is not in the table and no option code CS 637 neither GT 639, but actually is M28.41 / G28.55.... Any idea what are I'm dealing?

Arnoud 05-24-2014 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ferri (Post 11391629)
I've got the VIN, it's ... KS840364, so it is not in the table and no option code CS 637 neither GT 639, but actually is M28.41 / G28.55.... Any idea what are I'm dealing?

WP0ZZZ92ZKS840364:
1989 C00 = Germany , M28.41 G28.12


I018 Sport steering wheel with elevated hub
I139 Seat Heating - Left
I298 Prepared for unleaded fuel, manual transmission
I326 Radio, Blaupunkt Berlin IQR 88 with ARI
I383 Sport seat - left
I387 Sport seat - right
M650 Sunroof

Ferri 05-24-2014 03:44 PM

Thank you Arnoud,

That's right, option codes are these, but gearbox code is G28.55, how to explain that? Also I see have a double exhaust pipe, like CS or GT, not in S4

I'm confused :-(

hb4 05-24-2014 04:03 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here are the 17 cars with Option 637.....
Attachment 837254
Attachment 837255

Ferri 05-24-2014 04:20 PM

Thanks hb4,

Not in your table, what a strange creature I've seen then?

Vilhuer 05-24-2014 04:20 PM

I think Samuel has other proof than just PET data that almost half of the all CS made used longer S4 gearing boxes.


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