85 Euro re-build thread
 

I thought I would start a thread to document the re-building of the new-to-me 1985 Euro 928 that has a 928 Specialists prototype 16v supercharger on it.

But first I need to thank a lot of people. When this car came up for sale, I got about 4 or 5 phone calls from my brethren talking about the possibilities of this car. Bobby, Tom, Tim, Hacker, Dennis, Dave, Eric, Hans, and few more. We all saw the potential this car had, but there were some serious unknowns.

I had been toying with the idea of making a track car with my son and daughter. The idea is we only work on it together and when it's "done" we take it to DE and other track-related events as a family. We will see how long this lasts, but I think I have two very interested helpers. I want to pass along a little of what I have learned from the 928 and my special group of friends and let them enjoy some of that too.

The car was sold by Dave Roberts (owner of 928 Specialists) to Ed MD a few years ago. Ed set the car up to run the Texas Mile. He changed out the suspension, added a roll bar, harnesses, and a few other odds and ends. I'm not sure what his results were from the Texas mile, but he spent quite a bit getting the car ready for it.

Then as I understand it, Ed's daughter was heading off to (med?) school and he wanted some cash to help pay for it. He sold the car to Iwanna928 (Stephen) about a year or so ago. Things get a bit fuzzy here, but as Stephen described it to me, he drove the car for about 3 weeks and then while pushing it, something blew and there was a cloud of smoke and the car hasn't run right since.

He trailered it to DR's so DR could evaluate it and fix it. I'm not sure what happened, but fast forward to this past July/August, and Stephen was ready to take his losses and move on.

The topic came up during Sharks in Hell and we started talking about the feasibility of getting the car up to me because it was not drive-able. Hand mentioned we was going down to DR's at some point and could possibly bring the car up to Indy. Then Mark H. our host in Hell offered his truck and trailer for me to use. So the stars were aligning. Now I just needed to close the deal.

I made and offer and we quickly reached a number that worked for both sides. Bobby ran over and closed the deal for me the next day! Now that is a friend! Thanks Bobby! I owe you huge!

Then Hans picked up the car for me and brought it up to Rod Underwood's (home of Sharks in Nowhere). So a huge thanks to Hans and Rod! I owe you guys!

Then, yesterday I borrowed Mark's rig and went down and picked it up from Rod with my kids along for the journey.

I will use this thread to document the rehabbing of this car. My son has already signed up here on RL and will make his debut post someday soon. in the meantime, here are pics of how the car sits today. Not bad. Just needs to be gone through. Might need a motor, but don't know yet. It kind of runs, but it's VERY lean and needs to be shark tuned.

More to follow in the days/weeks/months/years(?) ahead.

Start of the drive...
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Kids asked if the trailer would hold their weight! Cute! :p
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Sitting on Rod's trailer.
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Loaded up and ready to go!
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Man that guy is really on my ass! That freaked me out for quite a while!
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Customary mirror photo... with a twist.
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Home!
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I always liked that banner!
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Here's the engine as I got it.
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Not sure what these guys are, but we will find out soon enough.
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The interior. I like it a lot! :D
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Great start to an excellent journey!

As you know AO, this car has a special place in my heart. I've drooled on it many times, and DR set the goal for how I wanted my old '84 Euro to be. Sadly I've moved on from it, but the new owner has taken it to a new level and continues to do so. I'm sure you will do the same for DR.

Will be following this project closely. Let me know how I may help.

Subscribed- I'll be interested to hear what's really going on with that motor, I hope it's just a tuning issue!

This is going to be a great story all said an done. Awesome! Congrats!

And more so on a personal note I'd like to add....I haven't seen you in a while (picture either). Where the he!! did the other half of Andrew go!!:roflmao: That deserves more of a congratulations...you look good dude, keep it up!:thumbup::thumbup:

Excellent Andrew, you are the right person to get this car running again :-) Even better if it a family project... I would strongly advise fitting a JE Vampire knock control system to it.

Thanks... I will let you know.

Tried to just take it around the block and it was not happy. AFR was in the 18's!

Thanks Tony. I've lost 70#s in the past 12 months. I'm a skinny dude now. It's amazing what happens when you make up your mind to do something.

Hi John, I've looked into the vampire system and will consider it. We have a long list of things to work on. Do you happen to have the stock bin files native for the 85 Euro? I want to probably return it to stock and make sure the car as a stock unit is working properly - then re-supercharge it. There are just too many variables right now. If you can email me the bin files, I can burn them onto a chip. my email is andrewmolson "AT" yahoo.com

Thanks.

Nice story and I love how you're getting your kids involved. After 4 years with my 928, and a couple of other vehicles, my 14 & 16 YO's are just about done:) Take advantage of it while you can! Subscribed.

True....reminds me of when I picked up my track car (and other goodies) down in Cali.... Loaded up my boys into the borrowed dually with a borrowed trailer...and made a quick dash down I5 with stops in Stockton and San Fran (got the track car from Dan Brindle).... My boys (now 17 and 16) still remember that trip and it's helped fuel their passion for cars (my oldest more so than the younger one).

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Hi Andrew,
I've just emailed you the two bin files for the 85/86 Euro 16v...

Thanks John! :cheers:

This looks like fun Andrew, good luck with this project. At first I thought you were using the skinny lens on the camera, wow you sure slimmed down! :cheers:

Here's hoping for a bad head gasket and a nice stout block!

Hi Andrew thats a great way to get your kids involved in your passion,
they look very happy to help you.
Please keep us updated with pictures of your new family project

Congrats on a NICE car....

Honestly I don't think it will be that much of a project.....sure you gotta pull the engine and tear it down, hopefully it just needs new rings and there isn't serious scoring in the cylinder walls....if so its a pretty easy repair....One thing I would do is NOT use Porsche rings again...... John Kuhn told me that the factory 16V rings were "fragile" when ran under boost and he thought other rings would work better....he liked Total Seal rings....same as Carl uses in his motors

Looks like you've got a great starting point for that project AO. Man, your kids are getting big and you look smaller than when I saw you at Sharks in Hell. Congratulations.......Its wonderfull that you can involve them in your passion and you (and they) will all grow because of it. Party on Dude!

Some say stout? :biggulp:

Will do! :D

You are right. It shouldn't be that big of a project, but remember I have taken a vow to not work on it without the kids. So that means my schedule revolves around them when it comes to this project.

Yes, the rings are an issue. Fine for stock, but not so much for boost. Thanks for the lead. Will look into it.

Thanks Paul. :rockon: