GUTTER-BOY

I searched the forum, but couldn't find the answer...

The other day I was getting gas, and an older guy in an early (mint!) 70s 911 pulled up and we started BS'ing. He checked out my car (early 86 with Can-can red leather interior, 5-speed, wide-body & slant-nose w/48k). I told him what I paid for it, and that even with the $2k I've put into it in the last couple of weeks (TB/WP parts, 2 rear 295/30-19 tires, performance muffler and tips), I still got it for less than the estimated $9k value of an 86. He told me to re-evaluate the value, because WB/SN 928s are worth more. He had a friend who sold a DP widebody and it was valued at 2x the price of a regular 928. He said to go to NADA Classics and check it out. He said that even though Porsche didn't offer a factory option for a WB/SN 928 like they did for the 911 (930), he said it was a value-adder. After checking out NADA http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Ca...r-Coupe/Values he was right, at least on paper and according to the guide. I know some people HATE messing with the classic 928 shape, but does anyone have any info about the WB/SN? It might affect how I insure it, that's the main reason I'm asking.

1986 Porsche 928S2 Door Coupe Pricing Original
MSRP Low
Retail Average
Retail High
Retail
$50,000 $9,000 $10,850 $14,650
Options: (add options)
ADD-SLANT NOSE PKG $5,000 $5,000 $5,000
ADD-WIDE BODY PKG $4,500 $4,500 $4,500
See all options chosen
TOTAL PRICE $50,000 $18,500 $20,350 $24,150*


Thanks in advance!

James-man

I've never heard of a slant nose 928.

I confused or ignorant.

GUTTER-BOY

The "slant nose" is basically pop up headlights (think 80s Trans Am or RX-7), with fender flares molded in, since the 928 already had a slant to the front end. Strosek, Gemballa, DP, and a few others modified them (mines a Strosek, as far as I can tell).

996_North

How about a pic of your slant nose. I can't say I have ever seen one, but i am intrigued

Markmandude

From what I have seen in my constant perusing of 928s for sale across the country I think those values would be for a mint condition, extremely low mileage car even with the kit. I have seen a few of the stroseks come up for sale in those price ranges and they seem to sit forever. I'm not an expert on prices but I would estimate 5k less value then the book estimates assuming the car is maintained well and interior /exterior is in good shape.

There are so many factors when selling a 928 it is hard to value them. How long do you want to wait, history, maintenance, options, condition, colors.

I think you got a great deal as for insurance reasons you may want to value you it high. It would be extremely hard to find a replacement.

GUTTER-BOY

Here's a pic...

GlenL

If you think that's a $20k car then get "agreed value" insurance.

If they charge for a $6k car and it's wrecked, expect $5000. Before arguing.

Nicole

I believe the numbers for the increased value apply to factory options - not aftermarket.

While there were 928s that came from the factory with slant nose style, but I'm not convinced this is one of them. Similarly, I'm not sure where the wide body comes from. Is this fiberglass or actual metal?

The front spoiler and air inlets in your hood are definitely aftermarket. This means they would rather reduce the value than add to it.

rexpontius

Looks quite nice, do you have more pics?

Strosek Ultra

I don´t know anything about the value of modified cars over there but here in Europe especially in Germany top condition cars are priced quite high. DP (Design Plastic) widebody cars were mentioned. I have a friend having one. Here are some pictures of a DP slant nose car.

Ake

James-man

Ah, I was thrown off by the word "PKG". Only thought of packages as being dealer/factory options.

Aftermarket body "KIT" prolly makes more sense to me. The pricing of these kits back in the day was not insignificant and the car truly is rare and would be expensive to replace. I think that you can easily justify a value of over $10k and the tip for "agreed value" sounds pretty smart, although I have never looked into these policies personally.

AO

Sorry, but that front spoiler and air vents look out of place. The rest looks pretty descent. Value is highly subjective in a rare car. IIRC, your car is an auto which reduces the premium value by about 3-5k. Still, I think you got a hell of deal, but if you bought it because you thought you could flip it and make some serious coin... Don't hold your breath. But I do think you could sell it for about $10k without too much issue. North of that and it becomes less clear.

GlenL

Really?!

I do like that headlight style. The "frog eyes" are an acquired taste. (E.g., "goofy")

Fabio421

Widebody 928's are a very polarizing topic. When you try to sell a widebody 928 you will have only a small fraction of the potential buyer pool that you would have if it wasn't a widebody. Some people really like widebodies ( me ) and others really, really hate them. I'd say that the majority of 928 owners lean slightly toward the "don't like" side. Years ago when I first got into 928's it was much more skewed towards the "hate them" category. More people used to be into keeping everything stock and felt that the stock 928 was almost a holy relic and any deviance was blasphemy. That attitude has changed quite alot over the last 5-6 years. They are more accepted now than ever. There really isn't a correct answer to your question. Most people will say that the car is not worth twice as much as a stock bodied car but there is always that small minority that think it's the best looking 928 they've ever seen and need to have it right now. If you can wait around long enough, you might just find one of those buyers. If you are already thinking about selling your car, please do. A 928 isn't an investment and it isn't a great car to buy and flip for a profit. You will likely never make your money back, especially if you start performing all of the defered maintenance items that the previous owner didn't get around to doing. A 928 is like a vampire. You have to invite it into your garage but once it's there it will slowly suck the life out of your wallet. You don't realize it for a long time because of it's allure. By the time you realize that you are in over your head, it's too late. I've seen it happen time after time to many of my 928 friends. One day you wake up and realize that you have multiple cars, with a garage and a storage unit full of spare parts that you came across and they were "too good of a deal to pass up". As an example, I have more spare engines than I have cars to put them in. I've got spare transmissions, brakes, suspensions, new shocks, new pistons and rings, extra spider intakes stacked up in boxes to polish, multiple sets of euro heads, S-4 heads ( even though I don't have an S-4 ), S-4 intake, lightweight flywheel, pascha interior parts, extra leather parts, extra seats, extra wheels, an extra set of 16" tires since they are getting hard to find, etc, etc, etc. The list just goes on and on. My best advice is RUUUUUUNNNNNNNN!!!!!! Remember what the Eagles said. You can check in any time you like, but you can never leave.

Leon Speed

Glen, see here, 11th pic down.