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My 1986 928S Has Been Sitting For 12 Years In My Garage

Old 05-30-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by brutus
It was too expensive to fix
Oh oh .. pre-existing issues ? What was the thing that was too expensive to fix ?
Old 05-30-2012, 02:14 PM
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There have been other 928s where they did a dealer service and were so shocked at the bill that they parked the car !! No idea why this 928 got forgotten but maybe we shall find out.
Old 05-30-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brutus
It was too expensive to fix
>>>>>>>>Understood, and we all feel your pain.

The bad news is that while sitting, it has likely gotten more expensive to get it road worthy.

The good news is that you have come to the right place to finally get it back on the road, and if you can do much of the labor yourself, as many have suggested, it might not be so bad. Sounds like there are many hands in your area that can pitch in.<<<<<<<

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Sorry, was replying on phone and did not notice that answer was from Brutus, not Vipermn1. Still curious on Vipermn1's background...

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Old 05-30-2012, 04:14 PM
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Sorry guys but this was not my thread and not my sleeping 928. Did not intend to steal the thread.
Old 05-30-2012, 04:29 PM
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Honestly have been swamped with my job, three boys that played baseball, coaching each of their teams, etc, etc, etc. My two have gone on to college and my youngest is a junior in high school and is playing for his high school team so i FINALLY have some time on my hands. Feel bad that i've neglected the car especially since in such VERY good condition. No issues with it at all prior to letting it sit but understand it will need some work to get it going again.
Old 05-30-2012, 04:39 PM
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If we don't see pix, it doesn't exist!
Old 05-30-2012, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipermn1
Honestly have been swamped with my job, three boys that played baseball, coaching each of their teams, etc, etc, etc. My two have gone on to college and my youngest is a junior in high school and is playing for his high school team so i FINALLY have some time on my hands. Feel bad that i've neglected the car especially since in such VERY good condition. No issues with it at all prior to letting it sit but understand it will need some work to get it going again.
Oh.. well, if it ran when parked it probably wont be too bad. If it sat inside for 12 years it was just taking a nap. Wake it up gently, clean the grounds, flush the fluids (brake fluid, coolant, oil , diff-oil, fuel system), change the belts and water pump and you probably will be driving it in a few weeks..

I still think a Timing belt (Age) and WaterPump (sitting in one position is not good for the seals) will be on your list. However the only other expendables (aside from fluids) that I can see replacing would be tires and possibly spark plugs..
Old 05-30-2012, 05:12 PM
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How can i post pic's? I'm a newbie here so not sure how.
Old 05-30-2012, 05:16 PM
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Check out www.dorkiphus.net its a NoVa and Maryland Porsche forum
Old 05-30-2012, 05:20 PM
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Will do....Thanks!
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The references to the timing belt are because if it jumps time it bends all the valves in the engine. So the cautions about even TRYING to crank it on the starter motor. Starting it on the old belt water pump is even far more of a gamble. Some others have had good luck getting none runners back on the road.
The average 928 needs a couple thousand dollar a year in work sometimes more sometimes less unfortunately those needs continue if driven or not. So 12 years times $2,000 is $24,000 but you only have to do some of the things once, like tires which yours are totally unsafe to drive on.
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Originally Posted by dcrasta
Oh.. well, if it ran when parked it probably wont be too bad. If it sat inside for 12 years it was just taking a nap. Wake it up gently, clean the grounds, flush the fluids (brake fluid, coolant, oil , diff-oil, fuel system), change the belts and water pump and you probably will be driving it in a few weeks..

I still think a Timing belt (Age) and WaterPump (sitting in one position is not good for the seals) will be on your list. However the only other expendables (aside from fluids) that I can see replacing would be tires and possibly spark plugs..
This would be my suggestion also, to include that all of it can be done by a novice with a basic set of metric tools and a computer with which to search here for helpful hints along the way.

Pics are nice but what we would need is mileage when it was parked, auto tranny or 5sp?
Old 05-30-2012, 11:06 PM
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I am not sure why you would want to pour oil over the cams and lifters. The cylinders I agree, the oil drains down in a few days so they need attention before you try to turn over the engine. While the pistons and cylinders are aluminum the cams and lifters are not. It would take a lot to scar them.

Drain the gas and change the tank screen before you try to start it. Over this much time the tank screen can get kind of rotted. If it starts to fragment it will clog and ruin the fuel pump.

I do not buy that coolant only last a short while. My 78 was in storage for 15 years and the cooling system looked like new. If it was stored with only water then you might have a problem. I know an A/C guy who strains and reuses coolant.

Check the intake before turning over the car. A rodent with a bushy tail got into mine and built a nest. Good to make sure the air ways are clear.

If it is a five speed the blue hose to the clutch will be rotted. A belt is a must - since it is a 32 valve engine I would consider having it towed to the shop before doing too much to it.

Good luck
Old 05-31-2012, 01:10 AM
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OK Dan the podguy "I do not buy that coolant only last a short while. My 78 was in storage for 15 years and the cooling system looked like new. If it was stored with only water then you might have a problem. I know an A/C guy who strains and reuses coolant. "
Yes and some people think drinking there own urine is a healthy thing to do, does whiten the teeth. The recommendation to change coolant every two years is probably just a conspiracy theory and all the talk about Dexcool being a break through at 5 year service life. Yea nothing to it ! Maybe a good thing you spent years working on AIRCOOLED V Ws .
Old 05-31-2012, 04:33 AM
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Changing oil and coolant is the biggest fraud going. Cars can easily go 15K on an oil change more if it is syntheic. I have never seen an engine fail for the lack of an oil change. Back in the 60s I owned an 56 Olds with 100K. The engine was serviced by the agancy at proper intervals. A friend owned a 56 Olds that he bought new and drove 100K with no service. Old 50s cars could do that. Both engines were the same. The one that had the regular oil changes had less gunk inside the engine but not by much. If oil changes were so important then why did the neglected engine do as well as the well serviced engine. In fact other than oxidation on the neglected car both cars were about the same condition. A wax job and a little cleaning and both cars looked pretty much the same.

Now maybe if you are racing a car and the oil breaks down from high heat - maybe oil changes can make a difference. Under normal operating conditions 20K is adequate. I am more inclided to follow the schedule on automatic transmission oil changes though. I am also inclined to do break fluid changes on german and english cars. The moisture the fluid absorbs can do damage to the brake components

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