Options for shifter U-joint?
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Options for shifter U-joint?
My shifter linkage let go and it ended up that those plastic/rubber bushings in the ujoint back by the transmission broke out. So I know I can get a new ujoint thing, but I'm looking at that and it's in great shape except those busings are gone, I'm wondering why I can't:
1. machine some new nylon or plastic busings and press them in both sides.
2. machine some new bronze bushings and press them in each side.
3. press some sealed roller bearings in both sides. Would this be an upgrade?
Anyone try any of those things? Am I missing somehting?
thanks, Matt
1. machine some new nylon or plastic busings and press them in both sides.
2. machine some new bronze bushings and press them in each side.
3. press some sealed roller bearings in both sides. Would this be an upgrade?
Anyone try any of those things? Am I missing somehting?
thanks, Matt
#2
Nordschleife Master
Search on the site for details. This is a problem part on the car.
There are metal replacements available. Maybe there has been improvements but they were tending to make the shifter buzz. I'd think nylon parts would be better.
There are metal replacements available. Maybe there has been improvements but they were tending to make the shifter buzz. I'd think nylon parts would be better.
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Nordschleife Master
Just buy new Porsche bushings - they're a 911 part number. Easily replaced - I've done it 3 times now (3 different 928's). A search for "rear shift coupler bushings" will bring it up.
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Three Wheelin'
Not a direct drop in, but the best joints available:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=1490
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=1490
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I installed the Delrin bushings that Roger sells in the rear linkage coupler on my '89 S4, along with Lizard's shifter in the console this winter.
WOW - it's like a short throw gated shifter now. I highly recommend BOTH of these products - and Roger also sells bronze shifter bushings as I recall.
Gary Knox
WOW - it's like a short throw gated shifter now. I highly recommend BOTH of these products - and Roger also sells bronze shifter bushings as I recall.
Gary Knox
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+1 on the Delrin bushings the Roger is now selling. The earlier bronze ones were easier to install, but seemed to be prone to rattling. The Delrin ones install like the stock Porsche bushings, but provide a tighter fit for a more solid feel to the shifting.
BTW, you'll definitely want to order a new grub screw since the existing one will likely get destroyed during removal of the coupler. Good luck on the removal, anyway, as it can be a real pain. If you have a wire feed welder and an Allen bit you don't mind throwing away, welding the bit into the grub screw is a good way to ensure you can get that screw out of there without breaking anything.
BTW, you'll definitely want to order a new grub screw since the existing one will likely get destroyed during removal of the coupler. Good luck on the removal, anyway, as it can be a real pain. If you have a wire feed welder and an Allen bit you don't mind throwing away, welding the bit into the grub screw is a good way to ensure you can get that screw out of there without breaking anything.
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Thanks for all the info. I think to avoid any rattle issues I'll use delrin or nylon. I'll just machine them since I want to get it done and I like to do that sort of thing. So can I drill the hole in the bushing to be as tight as possible and still rotate freely, or do I need to leave a little clearance for any reason. I ask because the stock bushing that fell out had some clearance, not sure if it wore there or if it needs to be there from the beginning.
The cup is gone from my front socket and cup and I think I'll make a nylon cup to go in there too.
I read the other posts as recommended and found the tip on making another set screw so I don't need to worry about that tiny allen head in the future. I got totally lucky this time in that the screw was in place but literally hand tight.
The cup is gone from my front socket and cup and I think I'll make a nylon cup to go in there too.
I read the other posts as recommended and found the tip on making another set screw so I don't need to worry about that tiny allen head in the future. I got totally lucky this time in that the screw was in place but literally hand tight.
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The stock bushes are $4 each and have a slightly oval center hole.
The delrin bushes have a circular hole to tighten up the shift.
We no longer make the bronze bushes as they could cause a sizzle to the gear ****.
The Lizard shifter does away with the front ball socket coupling for a near perfect shift.
The delrin bushes have a circular hole to tighten up the shift.
We no longer make the bronze bushes as they could cause a sizzle to the gear ****.
The Lizard shifter does away with the front ball socket coupling for a near perfect shift.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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I've used the Delrin and found them to be much better than the original. I can see no practical reason why the originals have built in sloppiness, nor does it have any negative effect when you get rid of the play.
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