danglerb

Seems we have a lot of talk about saving 928's, maybe we can come to some consensus on a general criteria for saving or parting a 928?

Is the car special?
Its a Weissach, low vin, low miles, important or cool vin, owned by Charlie Sheen, owned by a family member, unique color, no sunroof, Euro S, GT, GTS, etc whatever makes it special to the owner or potential owner.

Nice factory paint, or paint that really will buff right out. Essential IMHO for anything but a "special" 928, that you want to make into a nice car.

Daily driver, same idea, but applies to the drive line being solid with only minor issues. If that is true and owner is OK with body and paint pretty much as is, dandy.

Track car, Paint and interior pretty sad, but straight body and solid drive train. Evidence that needed things were fixed even if costly.

Parts car, not special, not nice factory paint, needs some work (how much is what tips the scale), or title issues that can't be fixed. Cars that have been driven into the ground, not much "wrong" but nothing expensive fixed in ages and just waiting to break when touched.

My two Euro S I think make good examples.

84 Euro S AT.
Ran ok, had some issues with a lot of PO messing electrically. Salvage title, 82k miles, 20 ft paint, rough interior, evidence of some fixing up, but not the expensive stuff. Parted and used Euro S motor in other car.

85 Euro S 5 spd.
Timing belt failed motor, rough paint, but black with a straight body (easy to paint bad spots single stage paint). Maintained as a driver, clear title and Calif BAR sticker (smog legal Euro), 195k miles, rough interior. Plan is street legal track car with stripped interior and reduced weight.

rgs944

Quick dumb question and then we can move on. I realize I am a moron for not knowing this but I searched and did not find a quick answer. What is special about the Weissach cars?

Jakkq

They are rare!

rgs944

I know I am not the sharpest tool in the shed sometimes but I did figure that much out already. Just kidding with you Austin. I hope to look at your car sometime soon and maybe give you some ideas on whether to part it or not. I am going to be experimenting with some vinyl wrap for my front bumper soon. The 3M stuff looks great and I think might have the possibility of saving a lot of old cars.

NoVector

Club Sport and 50th Jubilee would be on the short list.

Wikipedia: In 1982 model year, two special models were available for different markets. 205 "Weissach Edition" cars were sold in North America. Unusual features were champagne gold metallic paint, matching brushed gold flat disc wheels, two-tone leather interior, a plaque containing the production number on the dash and the extremely collectible three-piece Porsche luggage set. It's believed these cars were not made with S spoilers even though these were available in U.S. during this time period as part of the "Competition Group" option. The "Weissach Edition" option was also available for the US market 911 in 1980 model year and 924 in 1981 model year.

Jadz928

They are rare outside of of the US, as they were only built for the US market. Well over 200 were imported, so I don't consider them rare (think 4 or 5 per state). But they are special moreso because of how they were trimmed out.

In Europe they would be like how we view the 84-85 EuroS here in the US.

ROG100

I have two Weissachs, and a Jubilee so I must get an SE and a Clubsport. I stand more of a chance on the SE and missed one by a few $ prior to Christmas.

heinrich

I think GTSes are rare and still useful enough that they should probably be saved if at all possible. S4's and earlier, especiallt autos, not as much. Euros of most kinds probably as well especially 85/6... In the US I mean.

bradartigue

I'd argue it depends on what each individual likes. You can argue the purity of the original cars (original body, CIS, 16v, etc.) or the raw power of the final models or the merits of the tween years and so on. The 928 wasn't exactly rare, but wasn't a mass production car either.

I believe that folks given an opportunity to own and restore/save/whatever the cars today will have a bargain vs. future prices. They are - every model year and type - horribly undervalued given their history, performance characteristics, pedigree, and so on.

Richard S

One came with a 6-spd transmission.

Rich

danglerb

I agree, its whatever makes the owner willing to grasp the naked sword and turn on the time and money faucet.

Second part I think is wishful thinking, the automotive version of "Pretty Woman" and the hooker with a heart of gold. Most of the 928's on the market should not be bought even at horribly undervalued prices because the price is not undervalued enough to remotely compensate for the needed repairs.

The unfortunate thing is NOT that somebody fails to save some wreck, its that that somebody tries and fails and the owner gets discouraged and leaves the market, and the bad 928 goes from owner to owner doing the same damage.

What we need to preserve are happy owners, not beat down cars.

heinrich

Wel-stated.

heinrich

Geez there's a memory for you, Mr. Zapata

nlneilson

That one sentence says it quite well.

When the cost and availability of parts becomes so high that even an owner that does his own repair work dumps a project that will still leave a bunch of garage queens, racers, etc..

There is still the scrap value which might pay for hauling it in.

edit: There is a glimmer of light at the of the tunnel with the California Early vehicle retirement program.
If it still can be driven, not put on non op for 90 days in the last two years , etc. it can be turned in for $1000 or $1500 depending on income.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/avrp/avrp.htm

jon928se

5Speed GTS without sunroof. rarer than an SE