My Leaky Tranny. I'm Screwed, Part II - NOW UNSCREWED - YEAH!
12-23-2011, 07:01 PM
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Bill:
Since you have the later bearing and not the "troublesome" bushing, I don't think that was your problem. I guess the bearing could have been completely dry, but I'd think it would have gotten lubrication very quickly.
My cell number is 714 305 0828. My personal email is GregBBRD@aol.com. Lots of people, on Rennlist, have that information, but you might not.
Anybody else that might need help, please try my email first, unless it is an emergency and you are stuck somewhere. Call my cell, if that is the case.
Call me anytime, Bill, if you need some help. I'm around the house all weekend. I'm going to have every single little piece that is inside that transmission, in stock. I got so tired of not being able to get pieces from Mercedes or Porsche that I ordered multiples of replacement parts and adjusting parts just to be able to rebuild these things without waiting for pieces to come from Germany.
The input shaft, when the front pump is installed, will have endplay when you move it back and forth. That is the endplay of the entire completed assembly of gears and pieces inside the cases. If you don't feel that, something is wrong. That shaft also has to turn freely, when the entire transmission is assembled. If the endplay is not present, you can plan on the rear thrust bearing turning to trash almost instantly, if the transmisson is installed and the engine started. That is what concerns me. However, I think those pieces would make it into the oil pan, very quickly and hopefully you should see those pieces.
If you get really concerned that you don't know what has happened, I'd be glad to help you take it apart, look inside, and put it back together. Throw it and the core transmission into the luggage compartment on your Norton and bring them down....
If you decide to take it apart, go for it! I'll "have your bacK" from here and help as much as required. Between me, the workshop manual, and pictures, we can certainly get it apart and back together properly. The only problem will be the spring pressure on the front piston...but we can figure out a way to get it apart and I can send you up the proper tool to re-assemble it.
If required, I could drive up and help put it back together. My son still lives in Berkeley and although he is down for Christmas, I could come up the following weekend to visit him and help put your transmission back together.
Sorry I can't help more, today.
Since you have the later bearing and not the "troublesome" bushing, I don't think that was your problem. I guess the bearing could have been completely dry, but I'd think it would have gotten lubrication very quickly.
My cell number is 714 305 0828. My personal email is GregBBRD@aol.com. Lots of people, on Rennlist, have that information, but you might not.
Anybody else that might need help, please try my email first, unless it is an emergency and you are stuck somewhere. Call my cell, if that is the case.
Call me anytime, Bill, if you need some help. I'm around the house all weekend. I'm going to have every single little piece that is inside that transmission, in stock. I got so tired of not being able to get pieces from Mercedes or Porsche that I ordered multiples of replacement parts and adjusting parts just to be able to rebuild these things without waiting for pieces to come from Germany.
The input shaft, when the front pump is installed, will have endplay when you move it back and forth. That is the endplay of the entire completed assembly of gears and pieces inside the cases. If you don't feel that, something is wrong. That shaft also has to turn freely, when the entire transmission is assembled. If the endplay is not present, you can plan on the rear thrust bearing turning to trash almost instantly, if the transmisson is installed and the engine started. That is what concerns me. However, I think those pieces would make it into the oil pan, very quickly and hopefully you should see those pieces.
If you get really concerned that you don't know what has happened, I'd be glad to help you take it apart, look inside, and put it back together. Throw it and the core transmission into the luggage compartment on your Norton and bring them down....
If you decide to take it apart, go for it! I'll "have your bacK" from here and help as much as required. Between me, the workshop manual, and pictures, we can certainly get it apart and back together properly. The only problem will be the spring pressure on the front piston...but we can figure out a way to get it apart and I can send you up the proper tool to re-assemble it.
If required, I could drive up and help put it back together. My son still lives in Berkeley and although he is down for Christmas, I could come up the following weekend to visit him and help put your transmission back together.
Sorry I can't help more, today.
Thomas
12-23-2011, 09:03 PM
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Bill:
Since you have the later bearing and not the "troublesome" bushing, I don't think that was your problem. I guess the bearing could have been completely dry, but I'd think it would have gotten lubrication very quickly.
My cell number is 714 305 0828. My personal email is GregBBRD@aol.com. Lots of people, on Rennlist, have that information, but you might not.
Anybody else that might need help, please try my email first, unless it is an emergency and you are stuck somewhere. Call my cell, if that is the case.
Call me anytime, Bill, if you need some help. I'm around the house all weekend. I'm going to have every single little piece that is inside that transmission, in stock. I got so tired of not being able to get pieces from Mercedes or Porsche that I ordered multiples of replacement parts and adjusting parts just to be able to rebuild these things without waiting for pieces to come from Germany.
The input shaft, when the front pump is installed, will have endplay when you move it back and forth. That is the endplay of the entire completed assembly of gears and pieces inside the cases. If you don't feel that, something is wrong. That shaft also has to turn freely, when the entire transmission is assembled. If the endplay is not present, you can plan on the rear thrust bearing turning to trash almost instantly, if the transmisson is installed and the engine started. That is what concerns me. However, I think those pieces would make it into the oil pan, very quickly and hopefully you should see those pieces.
If you get really concerned that you don't know what has happened, I'd be glad to help you take it apart, look inside, and put it back together. Throw it and the core transmission into the luggage compartment on your Norton and bring them down....
If you decide to take it apart, go for it! I'll "have your bacK" from here and help as much as required. Between me, the workshop manual, and pictures, we can certainly get it apart and back together properly. The only problem will be the spring pressure on the front piston...but we can figure out a way to get it apart and I can send you up the proper tool to re-assemble it.
If required, I could drive up and help put it back together. My son still lives in Berkeley and although he is down for Christmas, I could come up the following weekend to visit him and help put your transmission back together.
Sorry I can't help more, today.
Since you have the later bearing and not the "troublesome" bushing, I don't think that was your problem. I guess the bearing could have been completely dry, but I'd think it would have gotten lubrication very quickly.
My cell number is 714 305 0828. My personal email is GregBBRD@aol.com. Lots of people, on Rennlist, have that information, but you might not.
Anybody else that might need help, please try my email first, unless it is an emergency and you are stuck somewhere. Call my cell, if that is the case.
Call me anytime, Bill, if you need some help. I'm around the house all weekend. I'm going to have every single little piece that is inside that transmission, in stock. I got so tired of not being able to get pieces from Mercedes or Porsche that I ordered multiples of replacement parts and adjusting parts just to be able to rebuild these things without waiting for pieces to come from Germany.
The input shaft, when the front pump is installed, will have endplay when you move it back and forth. That is the endplay of the entire completed assembly of gears and pieces inside the cases. If you don't feel that, something is wrong. That shaft also has to turn freely, when the entire transmission is assembled. If the endplay is not present, you can plan on the rear thrust bearing turning to trash almost instantly, if the transmisson is installed and the engine started. That is what concerns me. However, I think those pieces would make it into the oil pan, very quickly and hopefully you should see those pieces.
If you get really concerned that you don't know what has happened, I'd be glad to help you take it apart, look inside, and put it back together. Throw it and the core transmission into the luggage compartment on your Norton and bring them down....
If you decide to take it apart, go for it! I'll "have your bacK" from here and help as much as required. Between me, the workshop manual, and pictures, we can certainly get it apart and back together properly. The only problem will be the spring pressure on the front piston...but we can figure out a way to get it apart and I can send you up the proper tool to re-assemble it.
If required, I could drive up and help put it back together. My son still lives in Berkeley and although he is down for Christmas, I could come up the following weekend to visit him and help put your transmission back together.
Sorry I can't help more, today.
This is WAY, WAY, WAY BEYOND generous. It might be a little tough getting them down there on the Norton, but I will try to find a way. I'm sure you would run off screaming in horror if you came up here and saw the tools I use and the way I use them. The tool I use best is a hacksaw.
Anyway, THANKS so much for the offer of all this assistance. I will not forget it. Like I said, I want to stare at the parts for a while longer. I will pull the pan and have a look and then make some decisions. I just picked up a low mileage donor tranny, and at least the TC looks very good and there's no metal flakes in the front bearing
. So, one approach would be to swap over my pinon and diff and be happy w/o fussing with the other internals. I have good local assistance on diff setup.Again, THANKS. I'm sure everyone would expect that I should load up the trannies and head South tonight.
12-23-2011, 09:44 PM
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Bill,
I wish I could help you with the tranny, but I am not qualified. If, however, you want to go to the original transmission specialists place, and f%^& his $hit up, I will PM you my number and talk you through it.
I wish I could help more.
I wish I could help you with the tranny, but I am not qualified. If, however, you want to go to the original transmission specialists place, and f%^& his $hit up, I will PM you my number and talk you through it.
I wish I could help more.
12-23-2011, 11:41 PM
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Hi Bill
Sorry about your problems! This is an observational comment, as i know nothing about auto gearboxes, but you said in an earlier post that all parts were either 88/89, in one of the earlier pictures there is a peice that is date stamped 87, did you spot that? dont know if its relevant.
Merry christmas!
Sorry about your problems! This is an observational comment, as i know nothing about auto gearboxes, but you said in an earlier post that all parts were either 88/89, in one of the earlier pictures there is a peice that is date stamped 87, did you spot that? dont know if its relevant.
Merry christmas!
12-23-2011, 11:45 PM
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The guy has a sterling reputation, so I probably shouldn't have asked for suggestions regarding mayhem. I just finished getting burned bigtime by a landscaping job scam. I trust the wrong people sometimes. We're in the middle of a home redo that shouldn't but might go the same direction. My wife's car failed smog and is resisting all my efforts and the smartest guys over on a Dodge message board, and my car has been laid up with this tranny problem for 2 months. NEVER has it been down more than a couple of days, and that was when I was doing (botching) my first timing belt job. Heck, when the LH failed on the way to work one day, that only cost me 30 minutes waiting for Marc Thomas to drive over a spare LH after we diagnosed it over the phone. So, anyway, I'm in kind of a frustrated, near-the-end-of-my-rope frame of mind even though I know many (most?) 928 owners put up with a LOT, LOT worse problems than I have had. I expect to be able to figure it out and fix it, but this one really bothers me as I delve into the pixie dust and black magic that is an automatic transmission. The WSM and all the Mercedes documents still leave me feeling rather clueless about some specifics. So, thanks for all the help and offers of help whether directly with the tranny or ventilating my frustration.
12-23-2011, 11:48 PM
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In that light you may just need to do some swapping Bill so you can get some working wheels. Then get the dodge fixed (not that a dodge is every truly fixed other than when you drive it off a cliff)
At least you still have a norton.
At least you still have a norton.
12-24-2011, 12:51 AM
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Hi Brendan: I have a number of 2-wheeled alternatives but I'm not quite as tolerant of Winter, even in CA, as I was before. Jeez, today I don't think it got over 60F - downright freezing! And getting the trannies packed on the Norton or one of the CBXs would require some clever balancing skills. Thanks for thinking of me. I have received some local car swapping offers if I need that. The Dodge going over a cliff is a good possibility.