Are $300.00 tires necessary?
#16
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Because of the way the suspension works sidewalls I would not put anything NOT Z or better rated on my car. It s not as much a speed rating as a temperture endurance rating.
Brands, meh, whatever. Get what floats your boat. My local tire guy that has the road force balancer says Michelins are typically rounder so will give a better ride.
I like my Dunlop Star Specs because they heat up fast at autocrosses and I am too lazy for two sets of wheel/tires and swap em out when I want to get sticky with it.
Brands, meh, whatever. Get what floats your boat. My local tire guy that has the road force balancer says Michelins are typically rounder so will give a better ride.
I like my Dunlop Star Specs because they heat up fast at autocrosses and I am too lazy for two sets of wheel/tires and swap em out when I want to get sticky with it.
#17
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I'm on the cheap side of tires for all 3 sharks...within reason (mine at least). I don't track my car, but would willingly if the opportunity arose, and expect to toast whatever tire I currently had on the car.
Mileage, lol, is only 12k. Doesn't seem to matter which brand for me, Yokohama, Falken, Fuzion recently, they all wear around 10k and need replacement by 12k. I drive spirited, so maybe that's why. But it does mean I'm not concerned with a higher mileage tire at all.
Temperature is relevant to me, since I've learned that 58degree mornings compromise a Summer tires ability to grip. So for me, it has to be an All Season tire. Especially if you consider any wet weather driving at all.
Speed rating seems reasonable to consider as many have already posted. For me it has to be above "H". Simplifies my life to not worry if if I stay in it longer than I thought. Figure some engineer had to add value to why this rating may have some importance.
So for me, filter a tire size search by "All Season" and above "H", sort by "lowest price", then find the tire that has some reasonable reviews and looks good. Depending on size you should be able to get all 4 for $400 give or take. Performance will be plenty for the street, but sure, you'll likely find tires you won't purchase again and your opinion won't always match others'.
Oh, and while it's possible to push a tire to the edge of performance on the street, it's not smart. Sure, take a favorite on ramp cloverleaf at good speed and get some slight drift on exit, but reasonably you could put stock 225/50 tires on the car and still have a very fast exit speed (with a lot of fun). We kid ourselves thinking we "need" the highest tire performance. Besides, you'd have to be pushing sooo much harder to reap the benefits of a 'best' street tire, that you should really be questioning the safety of the activity itself. Level of performance at 8/10 capability for the street is very very high...anyone would need the 2/10 headroom just to compensate for unknowns if they occur, even a rock in your path. Most can live happily/exhilarated at more like 6/10 once in a while. Really.
Mileage, lol, is only 12k. Doesn't seem to matter which brand for me, Yokohama, Falken, Fuzion recently, they all wear around 10k and need replacement by 12k. I drive spirited, so maybe that's why. But it does mean I'm not concerned with a higher mileage tire at all.
Temperature is relevant to me, since I've learned that 58degree mornings compromise a Summer tires ability to grip. So for me, it has to be an All Season tire. Especially if you consider any wet weather driving at all.
Speed rating seems reasonable to consider as many have already posted. For me it has to be above "H". Simplifies my life to not worry if if I stay in it longer than I thought. Figure some engineer had to add value to why this rating may have some importance.
So for me, filter a tire size search by "All Season" and above "H", sort by "lowest price", then find the tire that has some reasonable reviews and looks good. Depending on size you should be able to get all 4 for $400 give or take. Performance will be plenty for the street, but sure, you'll likely find tires you won't purchase again and your opinion won't always match others'.
Oh, and while it's possible to push a tire to the edge of performance on the street, it's not smart. Sure, take a favorite on ramp cloverleaf at good speed and get some slight drift on exit, but reasonably you could put stock 225/50 tires on the car and still have a very fast exit speed (with a lot of fun). We kid ourselves thinking we "need" the highest tire performance. Besides, you'd have to be pushing sooo much harder to reap the benefits of a 'best' street tire, that you should really be questioning the safety of the activity itself. Level of performance at 8/10 capability for the street is very very high...anyone would need the 2/10 headroom just to compensate for unknowns if they occur, even a rock in your path. Most can live happily/exhilarated at more like 6/10 once in a while. Really.
#18
Drifting
I bought these from Tire Rack for my 928. Great tire for the money.
#19
Three Wheelin'
Just dropping in guys, I have a modded 951 (aren't they all) and I use Falken 452's summer tires rated for 186 mph. Only have a few thousand mile on them but I have been very happy with them.They are an excellent street tire don't know about the track and I have never driven on them in the rain but I hear they are very good!
I believe they make an all season version,the one fact that I can attest to is that the summer version does not like temperatures in the 50's! Wound up sideways twice making left turns in early fall.
These guys have further input. Take care.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...=496193&page=1
I believe they make an all season version,the one fact that I can attest to is that the summer version does not like temperatures in the 50's! Wound up sideways twice making left turns in early fall.
These guys have further input. Take care.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...=496193&page=1
#20
Drifting
I found good prices at that sponsored link Tire Rack
https://rennlist.com/upgradegarage/index.html
2 yoko S drives delivered to my door (texas to Canada) for $330
I drive aggressive and they are skins at 5000 k
They were not noisy and stuck like glue till they wear out.
https://rennlist.com/upgradegarage/index.html
2 yoko S drives delivered to my door (texas to Canada) for $330
I drive aggressive and they are skins at 5000 k
They were not noisy and stuck like glue till they wear out.
#21
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wow,
that is a lot of response in a short time....
I was not really looking for tires, just more of a comment on driving style... like the guy with a 500rwhp hot rod that never speeds....
If no one has used any, check out fierce... they are a sub brand of goodyear, and have Great REVIEWS...
I just put a set of uhp 265 35 18's on the rear and 225/40/18 on the front.. i am replacing Sumitomo HTR Z III's..
the initial impression is they are MUCH quieter, better riding, etc... great grip.. (I have already pushed them some)...
We'll see how well they hold up..
I have both sets fro under $350.00 shipped.
I was just wondering how many here spend big money on tires that never actually use the performance of them...
that is a lot of response in a short time....
I was not really looking for tires, just more of a comment on driving style... like the guy with a 500rwhp hot rod that never speeds....
If no one has used any, check out fierce... they are a sub brand of goodyear, and have Great REVIEWS...
I just put a set of uhp 265 35 18's on the rear and 225/40/18 on the front.. i am replacing Sumitomo HTR Z III's..
the initial impression is they are MUCH quieter, better riding, etc... great grip.. (I have already pushed them some)...
We'll see how well they hold up..
I have both sets fro under $350.00 shipped.
I was just wondering how many here spend big money on tires that never actually use the performance of them...
#24
Been selling Twinkies on Ebay,
have some extra cash right now.
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have some extra cash right now.
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I am running Hankook V-12's and I think they are a great comprimise. 3 track days on them so far (yes they are only UTWQ 280) but still NO NOISE! I have rotated them twice so far once off the rims and now running backwards.
Here is a link on those:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-on-track.html
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Except for the wet traction the Hankook V-12's really are great tires, I have over 15,000 on mine, I suspect the fronts will go twice that, the rears are about done though.
One of my friends with a hopped up M5 runs nothing but PS2's, he is lucky if he gets 8,000 miles out of them.
No way could I afford a set of tires every third oil change.
While part of me wants to try the PS2's, I am going to be upset if they wont go ten thousand miles.
One of my friends with a hopped up M5 runs nothing but PS2's, he is lucky if he gets 8,000 miles out of them.
No way could I afford a set of tires every third oil change.
While part of me wants to try the PS2's, I am going to be upset if they wont go ten thousand miles.
I had those ES 100's and you are right about the noise and vibration. Like a buzz sander.
I am running Hankook V-12's and I think they are a great comprimise. 3 track days on them so far (yes they are only UTWQ 280) but still NO NOISE! I have rotated them twice so far once off the rims and now running backwards.
Here is a link on those:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-on-track.html
I am running Hankook V-12's and I think they are a great comprimise. 3 track days on them so far (yes they are only UTWQ 280) but still NO NOISE! I have rotated them twice so far once off the rims and now running backwards.
Here is a link on those:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-on-track.html
#26
Been selling Twinkies on Ebay,
have some extra cash right now.
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have some extra cash right now.
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Except for the wet traction the Hankook V-12's really are great tires, I have over 15,000 on mine, I suspect the fronts will go twice that, the rears are about done though.
One of my friends with a hopped up M5 runs nothing but PS2's, he is lucky if he gets 8,000 miles out of them.
No way could I afford a set of tires every third oil change.
While part of me wants to try the PS2's, I am going to be upset if they wont go ten thousand miles.
One of my friends with a hopped up M5 runs nothing but PS2's, he is lucky if he gets 8,000 miles out of them.
No way could I afford a set of tires every third oil change.
While part of me wants to try the PS2's, I am going to be upset if they wont go ten thousand miles.
#28
I run continetal contactsport on my 928 on stock rims. They are expensive but the braking and handling far out weigh the cheaper brands. Look at any of the Autocar tyre tests which focus on dry and wet handling and braking and you quickly see the benefits of having a top tyre. Here in the middle east there is also the heat cycles which put through the tyres a lot and most tyres will need to be replaced after 2- 3 years regardless of mileage. IMHO buy the best you can afford as the those little contact patches are the only thing keeping you on the road.
#29
Three Wheelin'
I have the Hankook Ventus and they are quiet and seem to hold the road VERY well... when its dry... When its wet, I have to be careful... I figured its the torque and not many tires are gonna stop those wheels from turning... The tires came with the car so you guys will probably see this question again - say in about 10K miles... hmmmm... probably less... (^^^)
#30
Drifting
My front tires were amazing, put on by the PO, and handled all that I did, which included a lot of speed and still look new. They will be replaced when new wheels go on, but I could not ask for better tires.
Dunlop's.
I have seen some tires in the stores that had artistic tread patterns that looked cool.
Dunlop's.
I have seen some tires in the stores that had artistic tread patterns that looked cool.