Marine Blue

I agree with Randy on this one, just bring it in and don't say anything.

If they discover any problems just pretend you didn't know.....and then torch the car! J/K. I'm sure they are clueless to the 928's internals.

Shark Attack

ok so, let me get this right. You are admitting a punishable federal offence? I think the fine is 10K. So how long have you been running with out the cats?

Also is the car insured? It shoudl would suck if IT DID catch fire and the insurace company came across this thread.

Just my $.02

Jim M.

Tony, Sorry to hear of your problem. I'm with some of the others; just take it as it is to the DMV and let them look it over and test. Take the latest test sheet with you. Chances are they don't know what there looking at and even if they spot something the damn thing is clean! IIRC Porsche says to disconnect the air pump for smog inspection. If you can find some documentation for that, then that's the reason it's disconnected.

Bill51sdr

I'm thinking the S/C may be a little hard to overlook. Very few cars have those now, let alone 1987.

Tony

Thanks for the offers guys. This just went down this AM. i just got into town after flying a redeye from HI and decided to stop by the DMV in person to sort it out on the way home....that led to the trip to the Emissions station and downhill from there. Its #44 tomorrow so I'm not about dive into this and let it ruin the rest of my days off like it has today.

I'm certain i have most of the "metal" hardware. it will be the hoses from the air pump to the diverter valve...from there to the intake. F%^% ya see, my intake doesn't even have a port for that hose to connect to! This is what i will be up against.
This is NOT your corner smog station either. These are the state emissions inspectors..they know there ****. I can fool the "local" with a hose that runs to nowhere, but probably not these guys.

MY Plan is to simply look at the data tag on the hood and hook stuff together "as it should be per the diagram" it may not look pretty, but if its all there, its connected...and it passes, what can they say really?
So...
1) stock cats go back on
2) air pump belt will be installed.
3)hang a diverter valve back on the side of he head (F'N bolts are a bit$% on that also)
3) with that, a hose to the diverter valve
4) one hose from the valve will go to the cats where it is suppose to be (note to self..remove the "dime" in the metal line that currently blocks it )another hose will snake up under my intake somewhere and wont be attached( no fitting for it on my intake plenum) then again, i can tee it of my idle stabilizer line. Again, this is the time consuming part...trying to figure it all out in a not stock intake.

5) toss in a a vac line from the diverter valve to the 4 way vac fitting so it "looks good"
6) take my crank case breather line and tee it into the side of the intake plenum behind the SC where it will indeed "recycle" crankcase vapors for the frist time in oh..6 years?

7) go on the faith that my car will pass with out things properly hooked up but present to see.


On paper it will work...Its just the time and hassle that i don't want to deal with along with everything going on right now.

Tony

They do, and i looked into it, but i have 1 more year on that and in a nut shell i would have to go back to STOCK STOCK..intake and all...no SC! from that point i would be exempt and i woudl have to drive less than 2500 miles a year. Heck i only do appx 3000 now so that isnt hard. Going stock AINT gonna happen though.

Jim Devine

Not going to help you this time around, but when the car is 25 years old, apply for the "classic"
plates. You can only drive it 2500 miles/ yr, per
them but it's smog exempt. Easier to find a way
around the odometer than R&R all the engine stuff.

http://www.dmvstat.com/pdfforms/sp34.pdf

Be glad you aren't in Calif.- An Air Resouces
field guy told me their goal is to get cars over 10-12 years old off the road.

Here is the Calif. aftermarket cat list- click on the "pdf" on the far right of the first line

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...ftermktcat.htm

Randy V

Hard to put the pipe down after you been hittin' it so long, eh T.

Mark Anderson

Tony why don't you drive over and scavange all the parts you need off a car I have. I have 3 nearly complete 87 and newer cars that will have everything you need. I've even got a place you can spend the night if need be.

Mongo

If you are talking cats, those suckers are like $200 each. From a muffler guy I know, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE between a 49-State Magnaflow cat and the CARB Approved one other than a stamp on the outer shell. This is California's way of screwing over the motorist.

SteveG

I'm with Kyle. Our cars are at that awkward in-between age. Not historical, yet old(er) and we really don't qualify as historical anyway. There are population density considerations that did not exist, but it did have cats. The cars are cheap to buy but expensive to own.

BTW: Some people don't recommend braided brake lines unless you change them regularly, as racers do, b/c the mesh can chafe the inner rubber lining, and leak. They actually have a shorter life-span than orig equip. I would think that might also apply to fuel lines. Afterall the reason for the rubber section is so it can flex between the chassis and the engine line. The flexion would cause the chafe. Be careful what you wish for.

Sorry about the situation.

Rob Edwards

Here is Magnaflow's list of CARB- approved cats for 928's. Which is screwy, since the they list 85-89's as having a single exhaust, using a 36014, which is 16" long and 6.5" wide.

The 36304 is 13" long and 5-1/8" wide. $140ish, x 2. These are what I have on the GTS.

So a stock '87 would need a pair of 36304's. You put 'em on, the dork at the test only site sees the 36304 number instead of 36014, which is in the book, and fails you. Great.

Unless it's just a mistake in Magnaflow's catalog and CARB is smarter than Magnaflow....

Still don't understand why Nevada requires certification of a replacement cat?

Mongo

You neglect to mention that some of those cats are only 2" ID!

JWise

Tony- I understand your frustration and wanting to get this over with, but what are the ramifications if the car does not pass tomorrow? I'm talking visually as well as the sniffer. Fines? Seizure? I might want to hold off before taking it down there in anything but bone-stock form.

Also, does the VIR follow the vehicle? Could you re-register in a friendlier state, then turn around and bring it back to Nevada and only be subject to the routine sniff-test when registering again?

You would think that in cases such as this, following the spirit of the law (clean air) would be more important than the letter (strictly stock).

Rob Edwards

Shush!