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928 Dyno Day in Green Bay Results (aka Sharks in Titletown)
I coaxed the Green Bay 928 boys into hosting me for the weekend. It also happened to be the Lions vs. the Packers so we could tailgate and party. :D
In case you've never heard it, Green Bay likes to call itself, "Titletown." Something to do with winning the superbowl a few years back or something. Anyway, the saying for the weekend was, "Sharks in Titletown - Just as fun as Sharks in the Mountain, without all the hillbillies!" :roflmao: It lived up to it's billing. We had Tim Murphy, Hacker-Pschorr, SwayBar, Z, Ariel (don't know his screen name), and me all at the dyno on Saturday. Luckily, for once, the dyno gremlins didn't attack the boosted cars. It was a crisp morning and none of us were too hungover. I think the temp on my display said 41*F, and let me just say, GODDAMN! these cars like that cold air. I was breaking the tires loose easily in 3rd gear! On the way to the dyno, on a closed highway couse, Murf and I were side-by-side. We slowed to about 50 or 60MPH. I down-shifted into shifted into 3rd gear, and I think I heard Murf downshift into 3rd as well. Murf looked over, honked his horn three time and it was game on! We both punched it simultaneously, and I couldn't believe it... I was actually pulling on him. Then I shifted. You know... as much as I love having a manual transmission, it sucks when you're drag racing. You just cannot shift it fast enough when going against an auto. More on that later. So there I was, pulling on Murf, then I shifted. I lost maybe a half a car-length but then held right with him. I was amazed. This has never happened before. He usually walks me. But here I was holding my own. Next thing I know we're doing a buck forty or something and traffinc (again professional drivers) was coming up real fast. What a great way to start the morning. So we get to the dyno (BIG plug here for Beyond Redline in Green Bay, WI. Luke, the dyno owner/opperator, really knows his ****. If you have a chance to go there... it's money well spent!) and Hacker has his 1981 us/Euro Hybrid project strapped down getting a baseline before reconnecting the SCer. Don't want to steal his thunder, so I'll let him volunteer the numbers if he wants to at this point. I know he'll post them when he re-dynos it with the SCer hooked up. Look for big numbers. The car is very healthy. Here he is looking all cool and stuff. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/TK...U/s800/029.JPG Next up was Ariel in his stock 1987 S4 5-speed. Unfortunately we quickly discovered a lean issue and could not continue on the dyno. We spent the rest of the night (until 4am) trying to figure it out. Z and I think it's either a marginal CPS or the wiring between the EZK and the LH is suspect. Hopefully he'll post a separate thread where we can discuss. It was a real head scratcher. https://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010979.JPG Me, doing some SharkTuning to his car. https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010980.JPG Seeing that the dyno gremlins were afoot, the next person on the dyno was either me or Murf. I challenged him to rock, paper, siccors, to see who would go next. I won - he lost. So Tim loaded up his wife's car. It's a 1987 Auto with about 60k miles on it. Tim has his Stage III kit on it. Here is the video of his dyno pull. :bowdown: Obviously he was happy with the results. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/TK...g/s800/034.JPG Dyno Chart https://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...Capture016.jpg Next up was yours truly. I was nervous because Murf had just thrown down a BIG number and the last time I was on this dyno I only put down a titch above 400. Could Murf really be 100RWHP ahead of me? If so, why did we hang with each other on our little race earlier in the morning? Am I putting down that kind of power? Well, here's the video. Dyno chart https://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...Capture015.jpg Let me say I was tickled with the outcome. The car is fast - especially in the cold air. What I find interesting is when you put Murf's chart with mine. You can see I make a bit more power down low and then at about 4500 RPM he takes over and keeps climbing. This might explain why I pulled on him for a bit but then just hung steady. The cars are pretty close. https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...Capture017.jpg Then, both Murf and I got a ride in a Nissan GT-R. Holy crap, that thing can hook up. He makes about 480WHP (all wheel drive). 0-60 in about 3.2 seconds. Of course, not to be out done, Murf and I had to go out and do another (virtual) drag race... this time from a stop and with our G-tech's enabled on the car. BTW, I tried to find out what a 0-60-0 would look like, but I guess I didn't stop long enough for the G-tech to register it, and thus blew the reading. The number speak for themselves. If you want a drag car, don't buy a 5-speed. My car is the black line. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/TK...Capture018.jpg It's clear that I lose time on the shifts. You almost can't see his shifts. I had a better 60ft time (which is usually a deciding factor in drag racing), but ended up losing. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/TK...Capture019.jpg No matter, my adrenaline was pumping. Hands were shaking pretty good when we got back to his place. The next day we went to Hacker's place which is only a few blocks away from Lambeau Field. I watched the Lions loose against the Packers (no surprise there). Saw Big Dave, Todd-the-Mad-Scientist, Tim S, and a few other good friends. https://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010985.JPG https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010986.JPG https://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010987.JPG https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010989.JPG BTW, I think this is the fastest Porsche powered 928 on the road right now... 675 RWHP! Wow! https://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...0/P1010993.JPG That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. :cheers: :thumbup: |
I'm hurt, really hurt. :icon107:
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Good stuff, AO.
The twin screw rocks down low. With stock cams, the centrifugal supercharger can compensate the cams running out of breath at the top end. I am in the 650 axle hp neighborhood as well, and I think I have figured out a couple more tricks to try with the stock long block before it's maxed out. Once I get the fuel pump real smooth and quiet, I'll head back to the dyno. |
Great story, AO.
Can't wait to take a closer look at the dynocharts tomorrow. Reads like good people up dere in Cheeseheadland. ;) |
As a participant I can say it was a great outing, at least the party (I didn't make the dyno day).
A lot of very impressive cars, a few were even other than 928s. Definately a lot of great people. Thanks for hosting Erik:cheers: |
Looks like a really fun gathering, and some really nice numbers tossed up too.
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Dyno charts look exactly as I would expect. TS has a large torque advantage at low RPM. Power profiles follow the boost curves almost exactly. You can even see the increased efficiency of the centrifugal... the power lines cross where the centrifugal is at ~1psi less. At SITM09 I just so happened to be following a Murf car to dinner, and I found similar results. At lower RPMs, I would gain, but as we reached ~4k or so, the gain stopped. Too bad my front tires were screeching like they were subjected to chinese water torture in the corners, I'm too cheap when it comes to tires :)
Dan '91 928GT S/C :eek: 475hp/460lb.ft |
looks like you guys had a BLAST!!!!
It makes sense that the TS will pull the CS at lower RPM...its all about boost and until about 4500 the TS has more...at 10psi both cars are pretty similar.... So the magic trick would be a TS automatic making 15psi!!! Now that would be a rocketship!!!! Personally I am biased towards the automatic....plenty of boosted automatic 928's out there making silly dyno #'s and doing ORR, etc....plus the 5 speed version of our automatics is rated for up to 800ftlbs!!!! Basically the same thing Benz uses in all the AMG twin turbo V12 cars with 604hp-738 torque..... I have 53 HOURS on track in a well worn USED automatic and it just keeps on ticking....granted its only asked to cope with 241ftlbs to the ground...but it handles it with ease....I doubt the 5 speed could survive 53 hours on track with no issues.... |
Originally Posted by IcemanG17
(Post 7952062)
....I doubt the 5 speed could survive 53 hours on track with no issues....
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7952075)
Kibort bait? :roflmao:
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You guys sure know how to have a great time
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Thanks for posting...brings back memories of home.
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Originally Posted by blitz928
(Post 7952401)
Thanks for posting...brings back memories of home.
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What a great weekend!
Like Andrew said, this is the first time the dyno gremlins didn't bite anyone square in the ass like usual. I actually accomplished some very useful tuning while on the dyno, thanks to the owner/operator of Beyond Redline, Luke. I tell ya, that boy has all his wires connected in the right places. We could have tweaked a few things to eek out some more ponies but the car runs great the way it is and has what we feel is a nice and safe tune. Besides that, this is my wife’s car and it is plenty fast enough. Even though AO shows more torque below 4k I still have trouble getting the power to the ground and not just cooking the tires in 1st and 2nd gear. You can see by the G-Force graph from the G-Tech run that I lost about a half a second to AO in first gear by spinning the tires. I had to lift a little which caused a short shift from 1st to 2nd. I really need to do this again with drag radials and see what it can do with a flat to the floor 1st gear start. Although, in its current setup this is a GREAT burnout car. No power braking required :evilgrin: |
Great numbers guys and looks like you had a great time! Makes me want to get an intercooler and change my pulleys! Years ago I used to drive for Schneider National in Green Bay and the people there are die hard cheese head Packers fans! Nothing like watching football wearing a snowsuit LOL!
As a mention to the GTR, they are super quick off the line but at highway speed they are similar to a boosted 928. I had the privilege of a roll on with one last week on a closed course, and we were even from 80 to about 120. |
Looks like another clear, clean, cold Green Bay day.
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So what happened to the 511 RWHP that was done on 11 PSI? On Tim's wife's car..
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Sounds like a great time Andrew!
The Gtech results explain your earlier 60+ pull with Tim quite nicely, whereas your tighter gearing keeps you in the run against the AT's broader hp range. Essentially the higher overall hp in the AT is negated by the lower rpm/hp at the bottom of each gear, so it see-saws a bit through each gear. Great stuff !! Todd's 675whp - iirc, Lomas put down 650-ish with his white car as well...would be interesting to compare setup of both to see if the propeller heads think alike :cool: Now what's the story on Hacker's 81 ?!?! |
Originally Posted by anonymousagain
(Post 7953691)
Sounds like a great time Andrew!
The Gtech results explain your earlier 60+ pull with Tim quite nicely, whereas your tighter gearing keeps you in the run against the AT's broader hp range. Essentially the higher overall hp in the AT is negated by the lower rpm/hp at the bottom of each gear, so it see-saws a bit through each gear. Great stuff !! Todd's 675whp - iirc, Lomas put down 650-ish with his white car as well...would be interesting to compare setup of both to see if the propeller heads think alike :cool: Now what's the story on Hacker's 81 ?!?! |
:roflmao:
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Originally Posted by anonymousagain
(Post 7953691)
Now what's the story on Hacker's 81 ?!?!
Saturday was a "shake down" run that was supposed to happen on Thursday. Issues beyond the car got in the way so I'm a few days behind my October "hurry up before winter" time schedule. If all goes well I'll be back on the dyno next week for my before tune, then the blower goes back on. Shark Tuner worked great, didn't have a full day like I wanted to play with it (that was supposed to be Thursday). So I strapped down and did some quick adjustments just to make sure everything was still happy. Blowing an LH late August / early Sept (memory fuzzy) didn't help any. Don't worry, you'll be one of the first to know :thumbsup: |
Andrew and Eric - I'm calling bs on this entire thread. Oh sure all those pics look authentic, even down to the people wearing Packers colors and all. Even a few holding a brew in hand. All convincing until I realized there was not a single pic of a brat anywhere. This to me is proof of your charade. Nice try.
Was this really all staged on a Hollywood backlot? Seems like so much trouble to round up all those actors. I swear I saw Jim Bailey in the background.... the consummate extra. |
Originally Posted by blown 87
(Post 7951829)
I'm hurt, really hurt. :icon107:
"Sharks in Titletown - Just as fun as Sharks in the Mountain, without all the hillbillies!" Is meant to say: "Sharks in Titletown - Just as fun as Sharks in the Mountain, could you imagine how much fun it would be with all the hillbillies?!":thumbup: |
Originally Posted by S4ordie
(Post 7953834)
not a single pic of a brat anywhere.
Slow boiled in a mixture of Oktoberfest and Pumking beer with butter and onions then grilled to perfection. Two dozen brats lasted about 5 minutes :p
Originally Posted by robot808
(Post 7953859)
Don't be hurt Greg, I am sure that:
"Sharks in Titletown - Just as fun as Sharks in the Mountain, without all the hillbillies!" Is meant to say: "Sharks in Titletown - Just as fun as Sharks in the Mountain, could you imagine how much fun it would be with all the hillbillies?!":thumbup: |
Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
(Post 7953889)
Southern or Wisconsin hillbillies? There is a (scary) difference....... |
Southern Wisconsin Hillbillies FTW!
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Putting Flame suit on.....
Not knowing much about how a dyno calculates power, I was curious about time to speed on an inertia type dyno in the attached video's. You basically have heavy metal wheels that your car is trying to spin up as fast as it can). It was interesting to see AO's car spin the metal wheels up in about 7 seconds on the first run, and then it took about 13.7 seconds or so on the second run. I have no idea what RPM you guys are starting from, but if it were the same for each car, say 2000 or 2500 each time, it was interesting to see the difference in time to max RPM between the two cars. Tim's time to speed on the 500+ hp run was about 14.4 seconds, or about .7 seconds longer than AO's second run in the video. I assume it was due to the better torque curve down low-but I don't know. This is just more of an observation then anything else. I have watched lots of dyno video on u-tube, and some very serious machines making 1200 to 1300 hp (even with the tires slipping on the dyno wheels) seems to accelerate the inertia wheels faster than the dyno operator can take is foot off the accelerator......so it puzzle's me how the dyno calculates that Tim's car is making more power, even when the higher HP car takes longer to accelerate the wheels.....maybe the gearing (5 spd vs Auto) has something to do with the time to accelerate the metal wheels? Regarding the other video's I've seen on U-tube, I'm sure that each dyno has different weight inertia wheels so this would affect the time to speed. But as long as the computer knows the weight, it can do it's calculations..... The reason I bring all of this up, is that when John and I dynoed our cars last weekend, I did the same thing with our individual dyno video's. His car spun the wheels up to speed in less time, and made 20 something more foot pounds of torque than my car (5.4 liter GTS vs S4). But my car made somewhere around 35 more horspower.......that's it. Rambling mode off..... |
Don't read too much into it. It has to do with a few things, but the most important one is the gear you do it in. I think the first one in my video is 4th gear, and then the second is 5th. The taller the gear the longer it takes to spin it up. Weight of the drum also comes into play. The more mass... the longer it takes.
We wanted a longer run so we could get enough time at each point in the power band to look for knock and such. |
While watching the videos I noticed the difference in AO's times as well and just figured the first run was 4th and the second run was 5th gear. Didn't notice when at the dyno.
The total difference in times (comparing the longer run for AO with mine) would be the difference in final drive ratios. I have a 2.54 diff and AO has a 2.73 so my car would have to spin the drum to a little higher wheel speed in top gear to get to redline, which explains the longer run for my car. Make sense? |
Crap I would have come up if I didn't have a bike race that weekend. Only 4 hour drive from my house.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
(Post 7953889)
What do you think Ariel is holding?? :cool:
Slow boiled in a mixture of Oktoberfest and Pumking beer with butter and onions then grilled to perfection. Two dozen brats lasted about 5 minutes :p Southern or Wisconsin hillbillies? There is a (scary) difference....... :p |
Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7954163)
The taller the gear the longer it takes to spin it up. Weight of the drum also comes into play. The more mass... the longer it takes.
We wanted a longer run so we could get enough time at each point in the power band to look for knock and such. Tune for any gear, any load. http://www.dynojet.com/automotive_dy...o/default.aspx
Originally Posted by blown 87
(Post 7954480)
Do you folks even HAVE hills in Wisconsin?
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/u...-hill-basilica (shot my avatar from the top of the tower). |
Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
(Post 7954637)
Um, you do realize this is an eddy brake equipped dyno, next time just ask Luke to turn on the juice..... like I usually do :)
Tune for any gear, any load. http://www.dynojet.com/automotive_dy...o/default.aspx What's the capacity of the eddy current unit, how much power can you tune with it at constant load? I think many of these inertia + eddy current dynos are pretty good, but can't literally hold huge power at constant load. Instead, they can just slow down the pull, which in itself is very helpful for tuning. The reason why I am interested is that I've been converging to a water brake pure load dyno (Dynapack) for tuning, but wanted to know if there's a reason to reconsider. |
Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 7954680)
What's the capacity of the eddy current unit, how much power can you tune with it at constant load? I think many of these inertia + eddy current dynos are pretty good, but can't literally hold huge power at constant load. Instead, they can just slow down the pull, which in itself is very helpful for tuning.
I suppose power could also be an issue if the dyno doesn't have a good supply. Both of these issues have more to do with how the shop installed and maintains their equipment versus the dyno's themselves. When I first visited the local SuperFlow, the owner demonstrated a 1,000+rwhp/1,000rwtq drag car brought down to a crawl as he turned up the brakes. He could hold any load in-between. The DynoJet down the road has two "in house" cars in the 700-1,000 rwhp/rwtq range I've seen them tune with the eddy brakes without problems. One of them is AWD!!!
Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 7954680)
The reason why I am interested is that I've been converging to a water brake pure load dyno (Dynapack) for tuning, but wanted to know if there's a reason to reconsider.
I'm lucky the two closest happen to have very experienced tuners at the helm. Try them all, that's part of the fun of these projects: Visiting all kinds of speed shops :p |
Originally Posted by blown 87
(Post 7954480)
Do you folks even HAVE hills in Wisconsin?
:p Ok, I retract my suspicion of this being a staged event. Love the brat recipe. Gotta try that. Not a lot of brat eaters here in Arizona during the summer. |
Originally Posted by S4ordie
(Post 7954847)
Wisconsin has hills like Georgia has mountains :p
Ok, I retract my suspicion of this being a staged event. Love the brat recipe. Gotta try that. Not a lot of brat eaters here in Arizona during the summer. |
Another fun time in Green Bay! Even though this time it was kind of a last minute situation, there was still a pretty good turn out for game day, and the whole weekend was fun. With winter on it's way, it was nice to get to some of the things that had been getting put off for various reasons.
When making comparisons between cars, it often gets more complicated because of the number of differences between them other than just something like twin screw vs centrifugal. Andrew's car is a GT, and Tim's is an S4, so Andrew's engine has bigger cams and a slightly higher compression ratio. Andrew's has a manual transmission with five gears, and Tim's has an automatic with four. Andrew's car has lower drivtrain losses, and Tim's shifts faster. Andrew has a 2.73 final drive ratio, and Tim's is 2.54. Andrew's is red, and Tim's is black, which everyone knows is inherently the faster color. :D Even with all of the differences, it's interesting to take a look at some of the data. As these guys can tell you, I like actual, measured data, and love looking at some of the stuff like the G-Tech runs. That's even more true since these particular runs were done at the same location, and at the same time. That eliminates environmental variables that can have a significant difference, like different roads, different weather, different altitudes, etc. In taking a close look at the distance vs time data of the G-Tech runs, from a dead stop, both cars start out exactly even. Maybe because they're both limited by very close to the same available traction? After about 0.6 seconds, the cars have gone 7 feet, and Tim's car barely inches ahead, by less than a foot, until Andrew catches up at the 1.4 second mark, when both cars have gone about 28 feet. At 1.5 seconds and 30 feet, Andrew starts to pull ahead. Andrew hits the 60' mark in 2.113 seconds, a little over a foot ahead of Tim, still slowly pulling away, getting to a maximum of 3 feet ahead at about the 2.8 second mark, where he's traveled 102 feet and Tim's traveled 99 feet. Tim then start to gain, and catches him at about the 3.35 second mark, where both cars have gone a little over 140 feet. After that, Tim's car steadily moves ahead. Tim's car hits 60mph in 3.888 seconds, at which point it's gone a total of just over 184 feet, and is a little under 4 feet ahead of Andrew's car. After 7.865 seconds, Tim's car hits the 1/8 mile mark doing 98.51mph, and is ahead of Andrew's by a little over 45 feet. Tim's car crosses the 1/4 mile point in 11.857 seconds, going 125.59mph, and 100 feet ahead of Andrew's car. Oh yeah, if anybody asks, this crack that mysteriously appeared a little north of Green Bay, and right after the get together, is just a coincidence. :icon107: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4S5IOHVyvE You guys might want to think about doing your G-Tech runs in opposite directions next time, to kind of cancel each other out. |
Originally Posted by Tim Murphy
(Post 7954223)
While watching the videos I noticed the difference in AO's times as well and just figured the first run was 4th and the second run was 5th gear. Didn't notice when at the dyno.
The total difference in times (comparing the longer run for AO with mine) would be the difference in final drive ratios. I have a 2.54 diff and AO has a 2.73 so my car would have to spin the drum to a little higher wheel speed in top gear to get to redline, which explains the longer run for my car. Make sense? Did Olson have ClubSport rims and Helium in the tires again? |
Ah, too bad! I was in Green Bay for work this past weekend...I wondered what was going on when I tried to book a hotel and midrange rooms were going for $120+ each or all booked out.
I had to drive down to Sheboygan to find a room :) Looks like a good time was had by all. At least no accidents and nobody blew up; I've seen that before and it's not a good time. R |
Guys
Does The wifes car still run a V2 and a 3.33 pulley with a 4" inlet or a twin inlet |
Sound Good!!!!!!1:cheers::surr:
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Originally Posted by stuartph
(Post 7955578)
Guys
Does The wifes car still run a V2 and a 3.33 pulley with a 4" inlet or a twin inlet BTW Stuart, I will update your chips to the latest version. Send me an email. |
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Originally Posted by Z
(Post 7955011)
Another fun time in Green Bay! Even though this time it was kind of a last minute situation, there was still a pretty good turn out for game day, and the whole weekend was fun. With winter on it's way, it was nice to get to some of the things that had been getting put off for various reasons.
When making comparisons between cars, it often gets more complicated because of the number of differences between them other than just something like twin screw vs centrifugal. Andrew's car is a GT, and Tim's is an S4, so Andrew's engine has bigger cams and a slightly higher compression ratio. Andrew's has a manual transmission with five gears, and Tim's has an automatic with four. Andrew's car has lower drivtrain losses, and Tim's shifts faster. Andrew has a 2.73 final drive ratio, and Tim's is 2.54. Andrew's is red, and Tim's is black, which everyone knows, RED is inherently the faster color. :D Even with all of the differences, it's interesting to take a look at some of the data. As these guys can tell you, I like actual, measured data, and love looking at some of the stuff like the G-Tech runs. That's even more true since these particular runs were done at the same location, and at the same time. That eliminates environmental variables that can have a significant difference, like different roads, different weather, different altitudes, etc. In taking a close look at the distance vs time data of the G-Tech runs, from a dead stop, both cars start out exactly even. Maybe because they're both limited by very close to the same available traction? After about 0.6 seconds, the cars have gone 7 feet, and Tim's car barely inches ahead, by less than a foot, until Andrew catches up at the 1.4 second mark, when both cars have gone about 28 feet. At 1.5 seconds and 30 feet, Andrew starts to pull ahead. Andrew hits the 60' mark in 2.113 seconds, a little over a foot ahead of Tim, still slowly pulling away, getting to a maximum of 3 feet ahead at about the 2.8 second mark, where he's traveled 102 feet and Tim's traveled 99 feet. Tim then start to gain, and catches him at about the 3.35 second mark, where both cars have gone a little over 140 feet. After that, Tim's car steadily moves ahead. Tim's car hits 60mph in 3.888 seconds, at which point it's gone a total of just over 184 feet, and is a little under 4 feet ahead of Andrew's car. After 7.865 seconds, Tim's car hits the 1/8 mile mark doing 98.51mph, and is ahead of Andrew's by a little over 45 feet. Tim's car crosses the 1/4 mile point in 11.857 seconds, going 125.59mph, and 100 feet ahead of Andrew's car.
Originally Posted by Tony
(Post 7955277)
Did Olson have ClubSport rims and Helium in the tires again?
There was also some extra caricular co-ed activity later on... :rockon: https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...20-%20Copy.JPG |
And no, that is not my wife :rolleyes:
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Nor mine... :icon501:
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955738)
Z didn't believe me when I told him how my car can snap you back into your seat harder than Tim's. So I dropped into 2nd gear at about 2500RPM and punched it. How's your neck?
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
(Post 7955763)
Meh.......both of your cars accelerate with the force of a down pillow compared to my roadster :p
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955738)
There was also some extra caricular co-ed activity later on... :rockon:
https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...20-%20Copy.JPG |
You guy's are having to much fun! Awesome numbers. Looking forward to Hacker's numbers. He gives us 16V guy's hope!:cheers:
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I notice she has a glass of wine in her hand. I heard that no amount of liquor could make a lady get with AO but you have proved them all wrong! :rockon:
Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955738)
There was also some extra caricular co-ed activity later on... :rockon:
https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...20-%20Copy.JPG |
Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955789)
Prove it, bitch!
Next plan of action is to install the supercharger from my 81 onto it.
Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 7955795)
just a multimeter and no boroscope on the table?
Originally Posted by Iwanna928
(Post 7955801)
You guy's are having to much fun! Awesome numbers. Looking forward to Hacker's numbers. He gives us 16V guy's hope!:cheers:
Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer
(Post 7955831)
I notice she has a glass of wine in her hand. I heard that no amount of liquor could make a lady get with AO but you have proved them all wrong! :rockon:
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Originally Posted by Tim Murphy
(Post 7954223)
While watching the videos I noticed the difference in AO's times as well and just figured the first run was 4th and the second run was 5th gear. Didn't notice when at the dyno.
The total difference in times (comparing the longer run for AO with mine) would be the difference in final drive ratios. I have a 2.54 diff and AO has a 2.73 so my car would have to spin the drum to a little higher wheel speed in top gear to get to redline, which explains the longer run for my car. Make sense? Thanks Tim, that does make sense. I can't remember if I mentioned, but I gained 10 hp in two WOT runs on the dyno just by autotuning with the ST. I data logged on the third run. This was only changing fueling, I didn't even mess with the ignition timing. I had zero knocks after three pulls, so I could have picked up a little more I'm sure. I didn't bother, since the timing will be headed the other way in certain areas after the rear huffer is installed!! |
Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955738)
Goddamn it Tony! You're giving away all my secrets. There was also some extra caricular co-ed activity later on... :rockon: https://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q-VMuv9awdo/T...20-%20Copy.JPG :roflmao: Too much fun.:thumbup: |
Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
(Post 7955738)
Z didn't believe me when I told him how my car can snap you back into your seat harder than Tim's. So I dropped into 2nd gear at about 2500RPM and punched it. How's your neck? :evilgrin:
Originally Posted by ptuomov
(Post 7955795)
just a multimeter and no boroscope on the table?
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Note(s) to self:
1. Dropped wrenches in AO's garage stay dropped. 2. Get invited to Hacker's parties. |
Hell if you would have said something I could have flown the package over myself instead of shipping it. Would love to have participated! Andrew seems a little '86.5 still has ya beat...
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Originally Posted by Shane
(Post 7957894)
Hell if you would have said something I could have flown the package over myself instead of shipping it.
I'm still a bit surprised nobody has a good shot of me drinking a Schlitz....:icon107: |
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"............I'm still a bit surprised nobody has a good shot of me drinking a Schlitz..." I'm now take 2 Schlitz a day for medicinal reasons - gave up on Huber Bock (cheap!) and exotic beer. The old ways are the best ways. Hacker, you're welcome in the Waukesha/Milwaukee area, but based on the photos, you guys may need to stay in the shop. If AO drives up through Chicago he can stop by, I bet he'd ring the "back door" bell? . |
Hmmm, is it a coincedence that the Green Bay boy's throw a party, AO is in attendance and just a couple of days later, pics of Brett Favre's junk show up on the interwebz? I think not! ;)
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Originally Posted by Larry Velk
(Post 7958424)
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"............I'm still a bit surprised nobody has a good shot of me drinking a Schlitz..." I'm now take 2 Schlitz a day for medicinal reasons - gave up on Huber Bock (cheap!) and exotic beer. The old ways are the best ways. Hacker, you're welcome in the Waukesha/Milwaukee area, but based on the photos, you guys may need to stay in the shop. If AO drives up through Chicago he can stop by, I bet he'd ring the "back door" bell? . |
Nobody will ever accuse the 928 folks as being unfriendly, or sane.
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