PRNDL lamps go out when parking lights are on
#17
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GTS: I replaced the bulbs in the cluster. As before I only have "R" lighted. Could it have anything to do with the cable and alignment at the console? I tightened up some slack underneath at the connection near driver's rear wheel, but the index at the console is still slightly off. I could get another turn on the adjustment back there.
#18
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Hi Mike:
Without looking through the wiring diagrams, I'm wondering if the ignition switch connector is loose or the switch is intermittent. The switch that I'm talking about is not the main ignition switch but the small single pole switch under the dash on the ignition lock shaft. If you look under the pod you can't miss it.
Verify that the connector pushed in all the way. If that doesn't change anything, then test the switch with a voltmeter. See what you get and let me know.
Without looking through the wiring diagrams, I'm wondering if the ignition switch connector is loose or the switch is intermittent. The switch that I'm talking about is not the main ignition switch but the small single pole switch under the dash on the ignition lock shaft. If you look under the pod you can't miss it.
Verify that the connector pushed in all the way. If that doesn't change anything, then test the switch with a voltmeter. See what you get and let me know.
#19
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the odds are pretty good you have a failing Ignition switch
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#21
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While you might have a failing ignition switch (bouncing headlight problem?) the PRNDL lights are controlled (aka powered) from the two pole switch on the steering wheel lock shaft that goes between the ignition switch and the steering column. This is NOT the main ignition switch on the back of the key tumbler.
here is a picture of the switch I'm referring to:
For a good writeup on the workings of the PRND32/PRNDL lights look here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/455697-transmission-switch-prnd32.html
(NOTE: the above picture is Tony's post #33)
here is a picture of the switch I'm referring to:
For a good writeup on the workings of the PRND32/PRNDL lights look here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/455697-transmission-switch-prnd32.html
(NOTE: the above picture is Tony's post #33)
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OK, good, there's not supposed to be any lights down in the center console at all?
I was wondering about this, I thought it was OK for the shifter because of the heads-up display in the instrument cluster, but now it is still kind of hard to see other switches like windows and rear wiper?
-Sean
I was wondering about this, I thought it was OK for the shifter because of the heads-up display in the instrument cluster, but now it is still kind of hard to see other switches like windows and rear wiper?
-Sean
#23
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Thanks Bob; I'll review the link. Is there anything electromechanical in the ignition tumbler itself? Of is all the ignition electromechanical workings in the switch connected to the back of the tumbler cylinder?
Also; I'm having a hard time finding the single pole switch in the picture in the parts catalog. Does anyone have a part number for it?
Also; I'm having a hard time finding the single pole switch in the picture in the parts catalog. Does anyone have a part number for it?
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Thanks Bob; I'll review the link. Is there anything electromechanical in the ignition tumbler itself? Of is all the ignition electromechanical workings in the switch connected to the back of the tumbler cylinder?
Also; I'm having a hard time finding the single pole switch in the picture in the parts catalog. Does anyone have a part number for it?
Also; I'm having a hard time finding the single pole switch in the picture in the parts catalog. Does anyone have a part number for it?
Part Number: 911.613.125.00
#25
I need to replace the neutural switch on my 84'. Did you use the Porsche part or were you able to find a less costly substitute that will work. I know there are Merc parts that will fit.
#26
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While you might have a failing ignition switch (bouncing headlight problem?) the PRNDL lights are controlled (aka powered) from the two pole switch on the steering wheel lock shaft that goes between the ignition switch and the steering column. This is NOT the main ignition switch on the back of the key tumbler.
#27
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Have you inspected the reverse side of the CE panel carefully for wires that are partially melted together?
Edit: just saw on another of your threads where stan suggests this too.
When you have melting anywhere, especially when also having arm-bone-connnected-to-legbone electrical problems like your car has, then its wise to start picking through the harnesses and panel for more melting.
Edit: just saw on another of your threads where stan suggests this too.
When you have melting anywhere, especially when also having arm-bone-connnected-to-legbone electrical problems like your car has, then its wise to start picking through the harnesses and panel for more melting.
#28
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Also, it might not be a bad idea to as Landseer said and check behind your CE panel for shorted wires. This is by no means a trivial exercise, but in your case it might be a good idea. At the very least, you should replace all (yes ALL) of your fuses and clean the contacts on all your relays. Even if it doesn't fix this problem, it will probably fix problems you don't know about yet!
#29
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Also, it might not be a bad idea to as Landseer said and check behind your CE panel for shorted wires. This is by no means a trivial exercise, but in your case it might be a good idea. At the very least, you should replace all (yes ALL) of your fuses and clean the contacts on all your relays. Even if it doesn't fix this problem, it will probably fix problems you don't know about yet!