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erljive 02-01-2010 06:18 PM

86 928 engine, WIW?
 
What is the approximate price for a nice running, complete 32v engine these days? It has a recent timing belt/water pump service with a guess of 80-90k miles.
Good compression across the board. No real leaks that I can see and nothing dripping under the car after long storage. Anyone want to chime in on what it's worth?
Thanks

Imo000 02-01-2010 08:26 PM

Are you looking for one? Couple years ago I listed my parts car engine (86.5 32V) for $1500 and no one was interested so I kept it as a spare.

fraggle 02-01-2010 08:34 PM

One million dollars.

James Bailey 02-01-2010 08:42 PM

I think Dwayne picked up a NEW NEW Porsche school motor for like $2,500 included new A/c compressor new alternator, ps pump etc. etc. So $1,500 is about right if someone needs a used motor shipping is an issue as well.

erljive 02-01-2010 08:49 PM

I had a conversation with a person who asked me if I would consider selling the engine in my car. I don't really want to break the car up but it may be feasible to part it as I've had no real cash offers after listing a few times and I'm getting tired of time wasters with no money. Is $1500 a reasonable price? If not, how close? Are body parts worth anything? I'm situated between Detroit and Toronto and there doesn't seem to be much interest in 928's locally. The car has been in storage for the last 2 years and I hate to see it waste away.

James Bailey 02-01-2010 08:55 PM

If it is a 5 speed the trans has value if an auto about zero. There are lots of body parts out there for sale do not expect to get much for them....same for used interior bits unless they are very nice ! Plus you need to factor in the time and effort to break the car and what you do with the shell which has zero value may even cost you money to get rid of it ....

Imo000 02-01-2010 09:01 PM

I've done this same thing 2 years ago. The auto trans was only worth somethign becuse it had LSD. Body panels and large, heavy parts are very expensive to ship to the US. took me over a eyar to part the car and the interrior in this car was very nice so I kept most of it. This goes for all the exterrior panels too and the engine. Takes a long time and work to part a car, but you will know the 928 inside and out better than ever! :)

erljive 02-01-2010 09:22 PM

The body is a rust free California import but that doesn't seem to matter much unless your selling an old Mopar product. The interior is also very nice, but again seems to be almost worthless. It's an automatic, so unless some one local needs one it's not much either. I hate to break it up but i'm paying for storage and have to get rid of 3 cars. I know what it's like trying to eBay parts and finding the time to dismantle but it's my last option and I'm hoping not necessary.

Shark Attack 02-01-2010 09:50 PM

one on ebay didnt sell with good numbers and it was very clean. I think it also still had most the accy hanging on it.... No bids at 1000.00. I dont think it sold

928 at last 02-01-2010 09:55 PM

What are you asking for the entire car? Any pictures?

erljive 02-01-2010 10:09 PM

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I'm priced down to $3900 or best offer, but I only seem to get time wasters who never show up or don't have the money to pay for it. But that's what happens when you try to sell something cheap.There just doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in these cars around here. I've spent over $2000 on the interior and parts last year and never found the time to drive it :banghead:

Landseer 02-01-2010 10:20 PM

The market is pretty low right now except for the upper crust pieces.

Mrmerlin 02-01-2010 11:31 PM

what is the vin # for this car do you have interior and engine pictures, is it drivable??

Imo000 02-02-2010 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by erljive (Post 7275148)
I'm priced down to $3900 or best offer, but I only seem to get time wasters who never show up or don't have the money to pay for it. But that's what happens when you try to sell something cheap.There just doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in these cars around here. I've spent over $2000 on the interior and parts last year and never found the time to drive it :banghead:

Ahh, ok, I remember seeing this car on Kijiji. Didn't realize it was yours. Is the last four digit of the VIN above or bellow 1000?

RyanPerrella 02-02-2010 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by James Bailey (Post 7274885)
If it is a 5 speed the trans has value if an auto about zero. There are lots of body parts out there for sale do not expect to get much for them....same for used interior bits unless they are very nice ! Plus you need to factor in the time and effort to break the car and what you do with the shell which has zero value may even cost you money to get rid of it ....

Wise man here

The points stated here are why i am restoring this 85 and NOT parting it out

WTF am i going to do with a shell! I couldnt bare to tack a sawzall to the thing. 50 years from now when there are none of these cars left i will have to live with the fact that i destroyed one just because it took up too much space!

SAVE YOUR CARS .....if at all possible

And Jim, you need an avatar, download some hot female specimen and put it up there for us ....

danglerb 02-02-2010 04:39 AM

Engine complete is a PITA to ship, so you pretty much have to live with what the local market will support.

Good rule of thumb, you might get half of what parts list for in the 928Intl catalog, many times less.

erljive 02-02-2010 08:39 AM

I'll post a pic of interior & engine when I get home from work. Also the vin. I'm not ready to part it yet...unless I can pre sell a few big pieces. Seems a shame with a nice southern car as a few I looked at here in the Great White North years ago had corrosion problems around the chassis.
Thanks guys.

Shark Attack 02-02-2010 08:41 AM

Sadly the car as a whole with out an engine is going to be hard to get 1500 out of. But at teh same time, the transmission will pull 1500 on this board fairly easy... How do I know? I have a spare and have been offered over 1500 3 times..... Is weird how it all plays out with parting vs selling the whole care. If teh seats are nice 400, the tool kit, god knows... complete manual set.. 250.00

Imo000 02-02-2010 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Shark Attack (Post 7275934)
Sadly the car as a whole with out an engine is going to be hard to get 1500 out of. But at teh same time, the transmission will pull 1500 on this board fairly easy... How do I know? I have a spare and have been offered over 1500 3 times..... Is weird how it all plays out with parting vs selling the whole care. If teh seats are nice 400, the tool kit, god knows... complete manual set.. 250.00

Yes but you are in the US, shipping on large and heavy parts from here is a killer. Does your transmission has lsd?

Landseer 02-02-2010 09:02 AM

His transmission is automatic.

Parting one out is not for everybody.

Shark Attack 02-02-2010 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Landseer (Post 7275971)
His transmission is automatic.

Parting one out is not for everybody.

ahg,, now the cars worth 1000.00

Cosmo Kramer 02-02-2010 10:02 AM

I remember this car on Kijiji as well. I contemplated looking at it when I bought mine but at the time is was priced about the same as I paid for the one I bought and it was in better shape.

Parting out a car is a big job as Imre says, a one year commitment minimum and it will be tough to get your money out of it. Good luck!

Landseer 02-02-2010 10:11 AM

I was about to ask if you'd deliver it to Minot, ND.

Got you confused with a Saskatchawanite.

You're actually close to Pennsylvania.

Shark Attack 02-02-2010 11:03 AM

I have an engine in Erie pa. But I dont know what it woudl take to get it across the border. I will give it the 90 gaurantee you will get it across the border. After you hit Rt 90 on your way home the gaurantee is over. Ill take 999.00 for the engine and give you the stand it is on.

Imo000 02-02-2010 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Shark Attack (Post 7276263)
I have an engine in Erie pa. But I dont know what it woudl take to get it across the border. I will give it the 90 gaurantee you will get it across the border. After you hit Rt 90 on your way home the gaurantee is over. Ill take 999.00 for the engine and give you the stand it is on.

Nice sales pitch but the PO is not looking to buy.

jcb928 02-02-2010 04:47 PM

I would bet if you spent a little time advertising it you would have no problem getting $3.5k for it.

Put ads on,

http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/

http://www.buysell.com/

http://www.autotrader.ca

I would not recommend parting a car unless you like really like dealing with people asking for a $17.00 (new) A/C bracket for $5.00 :)

erljive 02-02-2010 05:01 PM

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vin=WPOJB0926GS8620** The car is equipped with rear A/C also which did work until end of last summer when it ran low on freon. I haven't re-charged.
It also has a new Devek rad, PW switches, sunroof motor, rear hatch struts,dash pad and a few more parts I can't remember. I still haven't heard back from the guy who inquired about the engine, so he is probably like the rest of the wannabe buyers. Man, this is the toughest car I have ever tried to sell and I'm down under 50% what I thought it was worth! Is it just a tough market or have these cars tanked that bad?

Landseer 02-02-2010 05:09 PM

How does it run and shift?
New motor mounts?
Timing Belt and WP, but who did it and what parts were used?
Fuel lines?
What mechanical / electrical work has been done?
Pictures of engine bay?

Shark Attack 02-02-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7276520)
Nice sales pitch but the PO is not looking to buy.

I know! the free stand is the real hook... See how I tossed that in there...... I may have a good closing tool up me sleve yet... Ya never know.

Imo000 02-02-2010 05:28 PM

The problem with selling a 928 in Ontario is that you have to find the right buyer or else it will be tought to sell. Right now is the worst time to sell a sports car, especcially a 928 (middle of winter, right after Christmas when everyone maxed out their CCs). If you can, wait till spring. Put some swithces in the centre console, toss and old radio in it so it doesn't look like someone ripped everything out. The missing front spoiler is a deterrant to the average buyer but if the interrior looks good (centre console is all together) it might get an interested buyer. Don't mention how much you spent on the interrior or the car as it makes the car sound like a money pit. Let the pictures do the talking.

erljive 02-02-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7277612)
The problem with selling a 928 in Ontario is that you have to find the right buyer or else it will be tought to sell. Right now is the worst time to sell a sports car, especcially a 928 (middle of winter, right after Christmas when everyone maxed out their CCs). If you can, wait till spring. Put some swithces in the centre console, toss and old radio in it so it doesn't look like someone ripped everything out. The missing front spoiler is a deterrant to the average buyer but if the interrior looks good (centre console is all together) it might get an interested buyer. Don't mention how much you spent on the interrior or the car as it makes the car sound like a money pit. Let the pictures do the talking.

Yeah your right Imre. I took that pic last summer before I put the switches in and the interior was dirty. I have an old radio also. It is a terrible time to sell sports car, no matter how cheap. The lower the price the worse the response seems to be. I need a winter driver for the next few months and have no room/desire to park anymore cars, so I thought if I priced it to the bone it would find a new home. I was wrong

Imo000 02-02-2010 07:28 PM

Take some new pics and re post it........you never know. The more effort you put into an add, the better the chance of selling it. In the mean time I"ll see if I can find a buyer for it. Make sure to put "No trades and no lowball offers" into the add too. However, Kijiji will still bring out the biggest morons on the planet, but try to be professional to every one of them as you never know who the real buyer is.

Imo000 02-02-2010 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by erljive (Post 7277528)
vin=WPOJB0926GS8620** .................

What are the ** for? Are the last 4 didgits 8620 or 20**? If it's either of them, then this is an 86.5 car and well worth the asking price. Can you confirm this?

erljive 02-02-2010 08:05 PM

862088

Mrmerlin 02-02-2010 08:36 PM

thanks for posting the VIN.
Now why do the interior pictures look like 2 different cars??
One looks nice and the other is the reason i dont like burgundy.
Anyway does this car drive ??
Does the torque tube make noise??
Can it be driven a long distance say 1200 miles as it sits?
What does the interior look like??
How about an engine picture, thanks

erljive 02-02-2010 10:24 PM

The dark interior pic was taken in side a storage building with a phone cam. The 1st pic is more accurate.
The car runs and drives fine, no shimmy or shaking. No growling from torque tube. I don't see any reason it wouldn't make a long trip, but it has been in storage for the most of the last 2 years. The engine service work was done by a shop in the Cali/Utah border area. I may have the paperwork still. Car has 128500 miles. The engine work was done around 127500. I'm going to pull it out of the garage tomorrow and take a few more pic's.

Imo000 02-03-2010 09:40 AM

One more thing, has it been federalized, duties/all taxes paid and registered in Ontario?

Shark Attack 02-03-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7278075)
then this is an 86.5 car and well worth the asking price. Can you confirm this?

That does change things a bit.

erljive 02-03-2010 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7279517)
One more thing, has it been federalized, duties/all taxes paid and registered in Ontario?

Yes Imre. All duties & taxes paid. Currently registered in my name on Ontario.

Imo000 02-03-2010 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by erljive (Post 7278105)
862088

#2088...this makes it an 86.5. Just to make sure no one before you changed the suspension parts, are the calipers black?

Richter12x2 02-03-2010 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by James Bailey (Post 7274885)
If it is a 5 speed the trans has value if an auto about zero. There are lots of body parts out there for sale do not expect to get much for them....same for used interior bits unless they are very nice ! Plus you need to factor in the time and effort to break the car and what you do with the shell which has zero value may even cost you money to get rid of it ....

If an auto trans is worth zero, I'll offer $10 plus shipping. How about it? That way we both come out ahead!!! :thumbsup:

erljive 02-03-2010 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7281153)
#2088...this makes it an 86.5. Just to make sure no one before you changed the suspension parts, are the calipers black?

Hi Imre I never had a chance to check the calipers and take any more pic's today, will try tomorrow.
I'm pretty sure the car is an 86.5, but I kinda forgot about that detail as I haven't done much with it for the last year or so. Thanks for bringing that to my attention again.

Imo000 02-03-2010 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Richter12x2 (Post 7281343)
If an auto trans is worth zero, I'll offer $10 plus shipping. How about it? That way we both come out ahead!!! :thumbsup:

If it has limited slip differential, it's worth a heck of a lot more than that. A used LSD is at least $300.

Might be worth checking for option code 220.

erljive 02-03-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Imo000 (Post 7281552)
If it has limited slip differential, it's worth a heck of a lot more than that. A used LSD is at least $300.

Might be worth checking for option code 220.

I'm pretty sure it has LSD. Where can I check the option codes? It's a loaded car, rear A/C, chromed alloys, leather headliner, etc.

Mrmerlin 02-03-2010 09:24 PM

what would it take to bring the car back into the USA??

erljive 02-03-2010 10:12 PM

There is no duty going back across the border. I still have a photocopy of the original California "pink slip"
and the original rear blue California license plate as well as the USA & Canada Customs papers that show when it was brought across thru Michigan to Ontario. It cost me $1200 to have it shipped in Nov 07 from California/Utah border area to Ontario. I just went thru some of the paperwork and found the PPI. It is a 86.5 with the upgraded brakes & suspension. As well the compression test results which are very good.

erljive 02-04-2010 11:18 PM

Thanks for all the input. One of my other cars sold today so some pressure to sell is off. One more free space to park it. I need to make time to wash it & take some new pic's by the weekend. Then post it on the classifieds here and the Trader for March 1st. I can't believe how cheap these cars are now. A few years ago a 928 engine in this condition was worth $5-6000 alone. A supercar of the '80's that could do 170 mph on the salt (86) down to beater price. Faster than a Ferrari in the day and now worth the same or less than a service on 348.

Landseer 02-04-2010 11:25 PM

Unless maintained diligently, then they retain value. (I don't have any of those).

erljive 02-05-2010 05:59 PM

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I listed the car on the Rennlist classifieds Took a few pic's today


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