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Old 02-06-2010, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
Isn't a flow test just turning an injector on and letting it flow into a beaker (or glass?) for a specified amount of time? If you could figure out a way to turn the power on and off for exactly the same amount of time I think you could flow test your own, no?
Kinda yeah, but what you're looking for is balance, so a fraction of a second late on the trigger can skew your results, so the only way to be truly accurate is to rig up 8 graduated cylinders on a full fuel injection circuit, then test fire them all at once and measure the results for deviation. It's doable, but it's going to take up a lot of space in the garage for something you're not going to do very often.
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
That's great. Especially since you haven't done anything but bolt-ons. What a great combo: x-pipe, chips and higher FPR.

I'm hoping to get over 300 at the wheels out of my '85 this year somehow.
Pretty good for a 'S' type rear exhaust, I think. With a refreshed intake, flow tested injectors, and the airbox sensor disconnected (stupid safety features), it should easily pass 300 hp/tq.

300 tq at 2700 rpm really makes it feel like it has 50 more hp.

You shouldn't have any problem getting 300 with that fancy intake of yours. Not quite as stylish as the 4" drain pipes on my car, though.


BTW: this dyno has never been very optimistic. Before this with other cars, I've always gotten much less than I hoped for. It was great to drive on, dyno almost 300/300, and drive off, in less than an hour!
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The Ford disc type flow a little more than the stock pintle type overall at lower duty cycles because they open and close faster. At full open (static) they flow the same.

Fuel injector guy said it would happen, and I saw it on the machine. He said that this was because of the lighter weight components in the disc type.
Old 02-06-2010, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
I'm hoping to get over 300 at the wheels out of my '85 this year somehow.
BTW: do you still have the '85 cat-back?

Even with the pumkin mod, it is definately a restriction. I keep having to tap the cat-back back into the X-pipe after all the WOT runs I've been doing!


On the '85-'86.0, it necks down to 52mm=2-1/16" OD (from 55mm=2-3/16") right after the cat/X-pipe, whereas the '86.5 is 55mm all the way back. Not to mention all that squashing at the rear crossmember.

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So for a 24 year old car...

Upgrades are:

Adjustable FPR
New fuel lines
Porken's chip
Modified Exhaust of some sort
Cooler spark plugs
Air/Fuel meter


And optional:

Aftermarket cat system to eliminate the air pump
drop the accessory belt and replace with _____ size belt
Electric Cooling Fans

Am I missing anything?

Thanks!
Old 02-06-2010, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PorKen
BTW: do you still have the '85 cat-back?

Even with the pumkin mod, it is definately a restriction. I keep having to tap the cat-back back into the X-pipe after all the WOT runs I've been doing!
You need one of these to stop the exhaust from slipping out of the X-pipe.

Old 02-06-2010, 10:28 PM
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James-man, one reminder to add to your list:

Utilize the the 32V'r tool to fine-tune the timing.
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
Ken,

That's great. Especially since you haven't done anything but bolt-ons. What a great combo: x-pipe, chips and higher FPR.

I'm hoping to get over 300 at the wheels out of my '85 this year somehow. Ooh! The tax return should be here soon...





Isn't a flow test just turning an injector on and letting it flow into a beaker (or glass?) for a specified amount of time?
If you could figure out a way to turn the power on and off for exactly the same amount of time I think you could flow test your own, no?

Ken, I noticed that Blue Oval Industries (where I got my Ford 24.lb 4 holes) also sells a set of 8 flow matched injectors now for just a little more.



PS- Ken, I gotta say, those headlights look like you've fitted your shark with frickin' lasers.
How to test fuel injector flow
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Originally Posted by James-man
So for a 24 year old car...

Upgrades are:

Adjustable FPR
New fuel lines
Porken's chip
Modified Exhaust of some sort
Cooler spark plugs
Air/Fuel meter


And optional:

Aftermarket cat system to eliminate the air pump
drop the accessory belt and replace with _____ size belt
Electric Cooling Fans

Am I missing anything?

Thanks!
Intake reseal, to include an external breather for the crankcase to eliminate the oil mist in the plenums.

Oh and boost...
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She cleans up real nice...




(Click here if you just -have- to see it in SAE)


Note: Unplugging the air temp sensor didn't help any. The load x air temp map I made makes it dyno higher, and safer!
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Excellent.
The Van Winkler 85 is about to get paddles to the chest.
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Originally Posted by PorKen
She cleans up real nice...




(Click here if you just -have- to see it in SAE)


Note: Unplugging the air temp sensor didn't help any. The load x air temp map I made makes it dyno higher, and safer!
Now thats the stuff!!!! Excellent!
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Wow, Ken, thats really nice- is this the same chipset you sent me last? My car is out of commission getting some bod mods done- I haven't been able to drive it on a dry road yet...

Sreve
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I just finished up installing Ken's latest chips, 55psi Fuel pressure regulator, new TPS switch, and o-rings on throttle body. Results, its an F-ing beast!!! I've never lost grip the way I do now, it revs so much faster and make the tires chirp in 2nd gear! It's just an awesome combo, should I dare say almost too much!

Danny
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Ken-
Those are incredible numbers! So at the crank its about 375hp?

Danny


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