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Old 11-21-2009, 07:43 PM
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Default Looking for the Epic Keep/Sell My 928 Thread

Driven my 928 for almost 15 years. Thinking about a possible change.

Does anyone recall a pro/con thread that offers good food for thought?

Thanks gang!
Old 11-21-2009, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by James-man
Driven my 928 for almost 15 years. Thinking about a possible change.

Does anyone recall a pro/con thread that offers good food for thought?

Thanks gang!
How about some pics so we can all do an evaluation ??
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if you have not already installed them . Talk to Ken about changing over the computer chips, he make some that will boost your power to somewhere near 315 HP IIRC plus then you can install a Motorsport X pipe and get another 25HP
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OOps. Let me clarify.

I have had a good run with my 928. I have held onto it for so long because year after year, I coudn't justify buying a lesser or even a slightly better car for so much more money. I am beginning to ponder selling some of my cars and trying something different for a while. Just for a change.

M3, 996, Exige, dedicated track car ____, or who knows what. But that is too much of the specifics.

I am looking for previous threads or any new comments about peoples pros and cons in keeping with the shark crowd as opposed to jumping the shark.

I have AA chips and motorsport X already. Not sure these really work well together. I have been thinking about Ken's set up for my 928, but I am starting to question the wisdom of me keeping a 24 year old 79,000 mi car running for another 10 years when I am not a 928 rocket scientist like the rest of you here.

Not losing my religion per se. Just too busy to deal with the impracticalities of the care and feeding of an old car.

Thanks!
Old 11-22-2009, 10:07 AM
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well try the Porken chips. You wont find another car quite like the 928 for any price
Old 11-22-2009, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by James-man
OOps. Let me clarify.
I have had a good run with my 928. I have held onto it for so long because year after year, I coudn't justify buying a lesser or even a slightly better car for so much more money. I am beginning to ponder selling some of my cars and trying something different for a while. Just for a change.
you contradict yourself here....
you've held onto it this long because it's so great, you have many cars and the 928 is the one chosen to get the boot when you want a change?
I don't understand
Old 11-23-2009, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rixter
you contradict yourself here....
you've held onto it this long because it's so great, you have many cars and the 928 is the one chosen to get the boot when you want a change?
I don't understand
No contradiction really. Wanting a change is growing factor and each year the reasons for holding are getting weaker and weaker. At this point, I am pretty much down to a mix of sentimentality and reluctance toward spending money during a weak economy. I felt strongly about keeping my 928 the first 10 years. Not quite so much recently.

I am really not an avid wrench turner. Driving a 9 year old car for years and years starting at, say, 17k miles is MUCH different than driving a 24 year old car for years and years starting at 79k miles. Cars that require more frequent repair are not really so good. Chasing down problems is really not fun for me and does not enhance car ownership. I don't have much time for that. I have probably used up the easiest and best years of my car's life. Why not move on and do the same with another? Other cars are starting to look appealing.

My pickup truck and station wagon are also subject to booting. Wife's SUV (my likely weekend tow vehicle) gets no boot. The cars I listed above are just some ideas of what I would consider as possibilities for a change.

I do not race, but enjoy DEs. I don't need a fast car for the street. I would like to have a car that is reasonably fast for the track (no NA 944 track car for me). I am not completely confident in the 928 oil starvation solutions out there so I have been playing it safe with stock tire sizes etc. in my 928. I can make a change by dramatically upgrading and shedding some weight in my 928, turning it into a dedicated track car. This would breathe some new life into the car making it more interesting to drive at the track. However, my car is nearly 24 year old, I am not a mechanic, and I don't believe this is the wisest of ideas.

A 996 would be newer (kinda the same starting point that I had with my 928 in the mid 90's), probably more reliable in the coming years, and probably not much faster than what I've got. It would be interesting to drive something a little different at the track and it would be nice to have a car that my wife will actually ride with me in (my 928 exhaust is too loud and obnoxious). A 996 TT could be hella fun. I don't foresee a GT3 at this time.

A BMW M3 has 3 rear seatbelts so I could use it as a back up family car. This could displace my 928 and station wagon while giving me something to play in at the track until I find a good track car. Just thinking out loud.

I haven't taken my thinking to the extent of researching reliability issues of 7 year old Porsches, BMWs and Lotus. I may have some erroneous assumptions.

Thanks.
Old 11-23-2009, 07:32 AM
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James-man - From your posts it sounds like the most important ingredient for continued 928 ownership and more importantly, enjoyment, is heart. Your heart is no longer in it. The heart is what allows you to overlook the obvious and the expensive (ask me how I know).

I'd move on after finding another owner for your car. Hopefully someone here.

Not being critical of you. I've been where you are with other cars. Good luck with your next automotive adventure. I'd go for a very good M3 myself.
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James, I've gotten to the same point. As much as I love my Shark, after 7 years, I think I want to make a change. I drove my friend's Fiat Spider on Saturday and had a hard time wiping the smile off of my face when I got out. Its primitive and Italian so it will surely break my heart, but it brought back feelings of fun that I haven't experienced in a long time.

I'm torn, but it might be time to move on to a new adventure as S4 says...
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My shark is 18 years old to me. bought her with 10k on the clock and put 95k more on it. Every time we go for a ride it takes me a day or two to wipe the smile off my face........ Paid for, costs me nothing (unless I start tinkering again), plenty of clean, safe storage is available and I have zero reason to part with something so beautiful. Man, we have had a GREAT run together. I was 40 when I got her (and my current bride) and both of them have been tops in their class! I am not going to part with either, willingly!
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Originally Posted by James-man
No contradiction really. Wanting a change is growing factor and each year the reasons for holding are getting weaker and weaker. At this point, I am pretty much down to a mix of sentimentality and reluctance toward spending money during a weak economy. I felt strongly about keeping my 928 the first 10 years. Not quite so much recently.

I am really not an avid wrench turner. Driving a 9 year old car for years and years starting at, say, 17k miles is MUCH different than driving a 24 year old car for years and years starting at 79k miles. Cars that require more frequent repair are not really so good. Chasing down problems is really not fun for me and does not enhance car ownership. I don't have much time for that. I have probably used up the easiest and best years of my car's life. Why not move on and do the same with another? Other cars are starting to look appealing.

My pickup truck and station wagon are also subject to booting. Wife's SUV (my likely weekend tow vehicle) gets no boot. The cars I listed above are just some ideas of what I would consider as possibilities for a change.

I do not race, but enjoy DEs. I don't need a fast car for the street. I would like to have a car that is reasonably fast for the track (no NA 944 track car for me). I am not completely confident in the 928 oil starvation solutions out there so I have been playing it safe with stock tire sizes etc. in my 928. I can make a change by dramatically upgrading and shedding some weight in my 928, turning it into a dedicated track car. This would breathe some new life into the car making it more interesting to drive at the track. However, my car is nearly 24 year old, I am not a mechanic, and I don't believe this is the wisest of ideas.

A 996 would be newer (kinda the same starting point that I had with my 928 in the mid 90's), probably more reliable in the coming years, and probably not much faster than what I've got. It would be interesting to drive something a little different at the track and it would be nice to have a car that my wife will actually ride with me in (my 928 exhaust is too loud and obnoxious). A 996 TT could be hella fun. I don't foresee a GT3 at this time.

A BMW M3 has 3 rear seatbelts so I could use it as a back up family car. This could displace my 928 and station wagon while giving me something to play in at the track until I find a good track car. Just thinking out loud.

I haven't taken my thinking to the extent of researching reliability issues of 7 year old Porsches, BMWs and Lotus. I may have some erroneous assumptions.

Thanks.
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Well James, if your heart isn't in it what can we say? I'm not sure which thread you were referring to about the pros and cons and it kind of sounds like you've already made up your mind anyway.

There's no way you got into the car as an investment, so you can't be disappointed with what you get for it.
You sound like you've had a good time with it, so it doesn't owe you anything.
You sound like the little things that have and are bound to come up are not really something you want to have in your life:

OK, this one I can handle. You can react to your 928 and it will always seem like you're behind the curve. It will give you trouble starting when you least expect it. It will run rough when you're in a hurry and the weather is good and you just want that 'old feeling back'. The head lights will get stuck in the 'up' position one day when you really don't feel like playing around with it. The directional will stop resetting automatically or the odometer will stop working. It will slowly break your heart in a hundred little ways until all of your recent memories of the car are negative ones.

These won't be the car's fault though. They will all happen between now and when you sell it and they have nothing to do with it being a 928 and everything to do with your not wanting to maintain a 24 year old car any longer. It's ok, it's just a matter of perspective and it happens to everyone if they keep their car after they've decided that they no longer feel any motivation to maintain it.

So the best thing for you and your car is to sell it quickly before any of these things start popping up because then you'll still have the positive experience to look back on (and possibly get another 928 someday) and the car won't be left to disintegrate while you passively try to sell it while thinking about the next car.

Good luck and maybe you'll get another one in the future and that old feeling will be back.
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That's a long time with one car. Why not keep it and get your self a 996 as a daily driver?
Old 11-23-2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Lyublinsky
That's a long time with one car. Why not keep it and get your self a 996 as a daily driver?
+1 once there paid for start adding to the stable. I would not add a 996 (unless turbo) though with the amount of engine failures that our out there!
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Originally Posted by Dan87951
+1 once there paid for start adding to the stable. I would not add a 996 (unless turbo) though with the amount of engine failures that our out there!

I would not be afraid of a 996. They are for the most part very soild car. But I never liked the front end on it, rather have the 997 or 993 just on looks alone.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I appreciate your thoughts and insights from various perspectives.


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