RicerSchnitzzle

Forgive me father for I have sinned... I have commited the highest of level of BLASPHEMY possible for a member of the 928 shrine society...

Okay, I can't hold it in any longer, it's killing me. I am ready for a public flogging.

Just as I was about to pull the trigger on a new stroker set up from Carl, I got to thinking again. That's when bad things usually follow.

A simple, cheap stroker would still cost me at least $15K+. But what happens if I grenade it? Another $15K? Also what power level would I expect without some serious $$ add ons and tuning? Did I really have the smarts to make one work right in an OB with megasquirt? With 2 daughters in college could I really justify the expense? Most of all could I stand to wait months for the crank and other parts to be ready? And then the hassle of putting it all together hoping I don't finish with one or two "Extra" bolts left over...

So I chose to go a slightly different direction. Renegade Hybrids! Ordered my kit 2 weeks ago, hoping it ships next week. I also ordered a 383 crate engine from Jegs. I just picked up my corvette bell housing and clutch parts from the local "U-pick 'em" salvage yard this morning. I got the kevlar clutch and flywheel upgrades from Renegade. Just hope 3rd gear holds up to the monster torque.

I'm going real old school with a proform 750 road race carb, instead of fuel injection. I have an annular booster kit coming to replace the down leg ones. Special floats for road race with baffled fuel bowls. Vacuum secondaries to keep it some what street friendly.

Engine is a Patriot Performance 383 with 500 HP @ 6100RPM and 492 TQ @ 4900RPM on 93 octane. Pretty decent for $5K assembled and tested including water pump and MSD billet HEI distro. Engine makes 330HP and 421TQ way down at 2500rpms! Peak HP is not as important as area under the HP curve for acceleration IMO. Redline is north of 6500rpms, which is plenty.



I'm saving about $8K over a cheap stroker build. Maybe $13K saved over doing it right. With cost of 383 parts, grenading it is a cheap fix. Plus no wait for custom work or parts. Plus I won't feel guilty adding Nitrous back in..

Here's the carb, kit should be next 2 weeks and engine is 3-4 weeks to build. Now on to getting wider tires, 295's won't be enough I fear. I will be posting up pics of the install over the next couple months. Hope to be turn key by January depending on my work schedule.


With the money I save, maybe I can get a nice S4 for a daily driver?

slate blue

I was looking forward to another 2V stroker being on Rennlist, Oh, well, good luck with it, it will still be a big job.

Greg

Adrian_

Just make sure you don't get killed with stones by hardcore 928 purists .

JG928S4

Look fwd. to reading post's about your Project!

jleidel

i'm in the process of building one as well

Gtaebr

Muscleschnitzzle?

surfridermason

How appropriate. Now I have come full circle. This is where I began on Rennlist.... speaking of pushrods.

I too would love to accomplish this, and I have full resources to do it, with the one fatal exception which (until surmounted) will prevent me from doing so.

I would NOT do an American V8 powered 928 UNLESS it was an lS6 stroked and worked, or an Ls7. Right now, it's not in the budget. But I applaud you, lets see whatcha got.

SwayBar

Hey, who cares what these other guys think...

That is awesome; please keep a thread going with your progress!

RicerSchnitzzle

Got too much rice to get rid of the name but that's just funny, I don't care who you are.

But at least my engine will match the afterburner exhaust I have...

Thanks for the encouragement folks. It will still be a challenge but Renegade has worked out most of the kinks. Heck even most SBC aftermarket headers will fit and clear the cross member and bell housing.

I would love to go LSX however I wanted to keep things on a budget and simple. My first car was a 73 911. My second was a 428SCJ 1970 Mustang Mach I. I has it until 2001. I really like the idea of a carburated set up again. It's truly what I know best. With the adjustable vac secondary I should get decent street manners with a "Hell Yeah!" the Dukes of Hazard would be proud of at WOT. Not as fine tuned as a tunable FI system, but hey what do I care about gas milage?

utjmac

Personal preference would be to keep it Porsche, but you put up a great financial argument for a domestic swap. in the end, I like to see any unique conversion, especially if it results in gobs of power/$. good luck with the swap!

BC

More power to you. Pun intended.

zoltan944

Welcome to the swap club! Although I don't have a 928 swapped, I do have a swap car! I also went old school with the SBC best power for the money.
Realistically you don't need LSx unless you are DD a car, then you can get better mileage. Track cars do great with little headaches, I have like 8 underhood wires!
Im excited to see pics of the Jegs crate when it shows!

Funny I was playing around with my 'engine analyzer' testing out which new heads I wanna get and what is gonna give me better numbers! lol
If you send me your email I can send you the zip files it is fun to plug in all your specs and see what the real world dyno graph shows as well as any changes you make

blown 87

Good luck with that race carb on the street.

You do understand there is no choke and other things that have to be tailored to every application.

I got no problem with a conversion, so good luck.

danglerb

Once the swap bug bites, it never really gets out of your system.

OTOH carbs are such a headache. When I talked to the guys at Renegade pretty much the only gripes he had with his LT swap was related to the carb.

Good support at this site.
http://www.porschehybrids.com/php/

Its not getting a lot of traffic right now, but questions do get answered.

terry gt

SBC great plan ! Got a 800 CI world engine c/w a PSI blower , should put out 2300-2500HP with mild boost if you want to be really to be silly. Terry