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Orest 07-02-2009 03:28 PM

Is it necessary to resurface a flywheel when changing clutch?
 
So my engine is out and I have performed a long list of WYAITs. My question is whether it is prudent to resurface the flywheel as a I replace the clutch and pilot bearing. It appears smooth and not really grooved, is it part of normal maintenance?

Lizard928 07-02-2009 03:32 PM

use a flat edge to see how true it is.

But that said, alot will say yes resurface every time. Others will say never resurface as it will burn out your discs faster. The latter info is 100% true IF the machining is not done to the correct surface quality.

But if it isnt burnt, maybe buff it with some sandpaper to take some of the glazing off so that the new clutch beds properly.

Cosmo Kramer 07-02-2009 03:37 PM

Like Lizard said, I replaced one in my 79 Mustang when I was a kid, just roughed it with some emery cloth and it worked great. Only machine it if it is warped.

Orest 07-02-2009 03:41 PM

Thanks guys! It looks smooth, I will just remove the surface rust.

Lizard928 07-02-2009 04:11 PM

best to check it with a good straight edge across both sides.

dr bob 07-02-2009 04:41 PM

The surface gets blanchard ground perfectly flat if it's done right, and will extend the life of the clutch IMO. A new surface won't have any hard spots (those blued and blackened spots on the face now). The perfectly flat surface means even friction across the whole face, so action will be smoother, more predicatble, and will hold more torque without slipping. Seems a no-brainer to me. I have done the disc-sander resurfacing method, and it's just OK, marginally better than no prep at all. Best clucth performance and life seem to happen with flat grinding, especially in hi-perf applications.

Daniel Dudley 07-02-2009 04:48 PM

If the car drove out well, it would generally be OK to buff it out. If you don't know how it operated, you are taking a chance. If it is rusted and the rust is uneven, that would not be good. OTOH, it's not like you have to pull the motor to get at it if you don't like the results.

dr bob 07-02-2009 05:13 PM

But the motor is already out, getting a new pilot bearing etc. Best-ever access to those wonderful flywheel bolts.

SharkSkin 07-02-2009 06:03 PM

As Colin says, check it with a straight edge, shining light from the back to help you see low spots. Any burnt spots are harder material that the rest of the friction surface and should be ground away. Some examples are visible on my old flywheel, you can see two spots and a third starting near the top of the pic. If it's just a streak of clutch material like the large one at about the 5:00 position it cleans off fairly easily.

http://members.rennlist.com/sharkski...eelRemoval.jpg

GlenL 07-02-2009 06:33 PM

If you take it in print out the specs and snip off any "Porsche" info. Say it's an Audi 5000. You'll save a few bucks.

Wild Bill 07-02-2009 08:38 PM

I got much the same response when I inquired about mine a while back... opinions on both sides. I had several tell me machining would ruin it, but mine was pretty abused with lots of blue spots. Took it to a reputable machine shop, insured that they would only take off the minimum and for $30 it looked like new. That was 14K miles ago and it's still smooth and working great... knock, knock, knock

Bill

Landseer 07-02-2009 08:50 PM

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I should have had mine resurfaced, but instead did it by hand, in-situ. Works fine, though. More than adequate.

Lizard928 07-03-2009 12:34 AM

Chris,
your flywheel doesnt look that bad actually. There are no bluing spots that are visable.

Dave's picture definetly shows almost a blue ring around which would cause uneven wear and would need to be resurfaced. But when resurfaced make sure that it is not too rough of a surface. Most machine shops arent stupid enough to leave it rough. But some are and if it is too rough this is what causes premature wearing.

terry gt 07-03-2009 01:24 AM

I would machine the flywheel . / to match the presure plate / because its cheep compared to a clutch / because its easy to take off . IMO Terry

James Bailey 07-03-2009 12:44 PM

It is best to have it machined. That gives a fresh surface for the new friction material to transfer to the flywheel .


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