928 Wrist watches
 

Guys,

I am working on a deal to create some custom limited edition wrist watches.

I don't know how many of you guys are in to watches, but I have a nice little collection and have always fancied a 928 watch... Problem is 100 piece run is pretty much the minimum.

We can have the dial anyway we want it and we will customize them to the serial number of your car if you like...or at least we CAN do that it would seem.

Here is the problem... What movement do we use?

As a watch lover I really like the swiss automatic movements (ie. mechanical autowinders...) we can do them in a swiss quartz movement or a far east auto movement... They will be made in GERMANY (how appropriate) and will I will post a pic of the face when we get that designed and figured out.

They would be a touch over $350, maybe $400 for the SUPER COOL Swiss auto movement or maybe a touch under $300 for a quartz movement I believe. Nothing is set in stone and if there is not enough interest I won't even bother to move forward on this.

Love to hear from you guys.

I wanted to set this up as a poll...

"Are you interested in a 928 watch"
$250-$325 Quartz
$375-$425 Automatic
$500+ for something very limited and even cooler...

I hope we have some good interest and can make this happen. I think it was brought up several years ago but nothing came of it...maybe this time will be a different story.

Let me know what you think guys and if someone can make this up as a poll that would be AWESOME!

Best,

why dont we make the wrist band out of a couple of rod bearings! ok, bad joke. :)

James - I like watches, might be interested in an autowind version but would need to see a prototype of what it would look like before commiting.....

One thing I would be concerned with regarding a 928 watch.... would run fast wouldn't it? :)

Hi :)

Yes as long as its an Auto and not a manual lol ...

All the best Brett :)

James,

I would be interested at any of the levels in the poll so, "all of the above".

Manual/auto - same as with 928 - kind of dont care as long as it looks good and goes well :-)

I love the idea, it's too bad the last watch project fizzled:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ristwatch.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...atch-dial.html

I love the idea, and might be tempted once seeing the finished work, but for hte price of a lower cross brace...that's a tough one.

I'd be more interested in a bezel cover to put on a watch I already own. I have a couple Seiko's I could "Redecorate". I know the true watch officianadoes will throw up a little at the idea.

There's a guy selling uber cheap porsche watches on ebay. He's obviously taking $10 watches and putting a new bezel cover on, then selling them for $30. A new cover with our design couldn't be too much. Just my $0.02

James,
I'm in and would prefer the auto wind.
Roger

Model year specific
 

Would it be more interesting to have the specific year model incorporated in the design or imprinted on the bezel like: S4, GT or GTS? Hmmm… James will have to buy a lot of watches himself!

I like this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Aircraft-Lockhee...3A1%7C294%3A50 or

Citizen:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Citizen-Men-Eco-...3A1%7C294%3A50

In person, I really liked the Citizen, and almost bought one; but here the face is very busy, and I don't see how it could be personalized to 928.

Randy V is seriously into watches, maybe you should talk to him.

I like watches, either of the 1st two choices would work for me, but the auto winder is preferred.

I think Dan's insistence on retaining his large logo did in this one. He has very good ideas but the logo put off a lot of people.

Yes, I would be interested in a 928 watch of some kind.

Hi :)

Personally I would like S2 as a choice, but I love the idea...also as an afterthought, why does nobody sell a similar T`shirt with different models ?

Some of the best T`Shirts I own are American ones, primarily because they often have logos and images on BOTH front and rear, in the Uk only the front for some weird reason...

All the best Brett :)

Sounds good to me....I've always liked watches......

Plus I don't like wearing the Panerai during track days :>)

Personally I prefer something inspired by the rear hatch opening mechanism.....

I'm in, huge watch fan. And James I'm just like you, love the mechanicals but honestly don't care if they are auto or manual wind, just no quartz. If we can come to terms on a nice dial, this would be a great item to have. Personally I'd like to see something in a sports watch, aggressively "mechanical" style case, non-black dial, but with only applied numbers 2, 8 and 9 and the others left off.

I think we should pay homage to the 900 foot long timing belt with a watch like the Tag Monaco V4

We can get Porken to design a tensioning system for it.

http://i.timeinc.net/popsci/images/c...h2_700x510.jpg

Love it!! I hate to ask, but how much? :icon107:

It will have a Rogerbox installed and probably will run A LOT fast! LOL!

Seriously, I have TWO of the watches that this will be based on and I LOVE them! I actually have the Quartz version of them, but they automatic is even more awesome!

I will post pics of the face mock up well before we commit to this with funding so that everyone can get a good look and decide if this is something for them.

Joe, is that a Nivrel? Looks AWESOME!

Hacker, I love that TAG too! Either of those watches will be WELL OUTSIDE our price limits! LOL!

Yes, "9" "2" "8" will be the only numbers on the dial. Should be a really cool deal. I hope we can make this happen.

:corn::D

I know, since the argument about spending more on mods than the car is worth comes up a lot, where does a watch fit in? :thumbsup:

Don't worry, this version will not have an alien head or your nick-name on it :p

Ah, but your pic seems to show metal gears -- if it were truly inspired by the hatch mechanism the gears should be brittle plastic. :D

Can someone post some design ideas for a 928 watch? I was thinking only having the 9,2,8 numbers visible on the face,with a porsche crest.

Fixed it for you....:) Hacker, go take a few beers and come back with your design ideas. :cheers:

Can't wait to see that noname gem that 50 of you or more needed to make that 100 pieces minimum run happen...:thumbup:

Designer no.1 - Lets use the 9-2-8 only

Designer no.2 - I want to see the 928 silhouette on the dial

Designer no.3 - A shark appliqué would be cool

Designer no.4 - Lets make it a chrono watche with 3 dial inside

Designer no.5 - I like a white dial in a SS case

Designer no.6 - The Porsche logo as to be visible

Designer no.7 - A real shark band is a must

Designer no.8 - A chainemaille(sp) band is way better

Designer no.9 - Lets make them model specific S S2 S3 GT GTS

Designer no.10 - No Trademark cause that will ruin the design

Designer no.11 - No no, a black dial with gold numbers

Get the picture!?

Good luck in your project James, really. :cheers:

You sound bitter?

:p

I like 9-2-8 only. Then black face with Rob Budd's shark over the crest logo like on his hood liners.

AGain, much cheaper and easier to just get bezel covers in assorted flavors. Then trim to fit your watch, glue and go.

If I get one, I'm way to stupid ot take it off when wrenching. Need it to on the cheap side for me.

If I posted an off the shelf $200 Movado with a Porsche crest as the 12 and only 9 - 2 - 8 on the rest of the watch it would have gone over better than your design.

Hey, I did like your design, just calling it like I saw it.
To be fair, the name on your watch didn't mean anything to anyone except you. That's why most did not go along with the design.

The list you posted was an afterthought, the project was already dead when 90% of the people interested wanted your trademark and logo removed.


Randy summed it up best during your project:

Read whatever you want in to it.....Was injecting some humour...same members, same lame comments.

Why don't you suggest some ideas to James insted of OTing is thread!

Patek Phillipe.....its me James what else would I choose :)

Joe, but of course! What was I thinking?! ;)

They are coming. NO CREST or suffer the wrath of Porsche AG! Hang tight and save your money.

Oh, this is an accessory so it is ok to spend a lot of money on it! :)

No kidding...Little bit huh? WOW! Dan, I won't put you down for one then ok...

When you have a friend that is a jeweler who is working specifically with a watch manufacturer that already does lots of custom jobs, then you CAN in fact get stuff like this done. They can do a mock up of a dial in 24 hours, not the real thing the digital version of it that will be exactly what the real deal looks like.

So, we will see. This jeweler (nor I) want to be stuck with 50+ watches we have to pay for so for those who are interested lets get with it... Oh, the jeweler is a 928 owner and comes to this site from time to time as well, so he also is a fan who wants to see this happen...

How about having a 9, a 2 and a 8, at the ends of the hour, minute, second hand. I think that means only once an hour all the hands will align and say 928....

You asked for suggestions.......then call them lame?

I doubt anyone else thought the comment "Can't wait to see that noname gem" was even a bit funny.

I voted, that's the only info he needs from me.

My friends from the old days tell me I can have the knockoff version fully functioning prototype ready in a week!
:D

You mean like this :eek:
A nice affordable watch would be great!

My thoughts are to keep the design befitting the 928, classic & unique, but not too cluttered or overdone. Keep the Porsche references or logo off to avoid any problems with trademarks.And something that any 928 owner can relate too, whether the owner has an OB, a GTS, or something in between. If your friend the jeweler is also a 928 owner, that's promising that he can relate to what most would want in styling a suitable watch to match a 928 & their owners.

Was thinking about having the 928 nose outline on the watch face.
Then remembered that there's 2 different noses.
The commonalities of the 928 seem to be the distinct door.
And maybe the 928 flat dish that lots of people hold in disdain.
The flip-up headlight is cool. But probably wouldn't be distinct enough for a watch face logo.
An overhead view of the 928 may be cool. (Brings back the S vs S4 silhouette fight)

Just some rambling thoughts.

Is the watch case going to be made from melted down S4 intakes? :p

If it's going to fitting of the 928 design.. I think you will have to go beyond the face of the watch ..and do some really cool stuff with either the shape of the watch, the band ...ergonomics etc... As with the 928..its not how it looks..but rather how it functions :D :D :D .. Interested in seeing what comes of this go round....the alien head one..was ..well...blah...

As for using the crest, assuming you do get caught (and I'm sure you would) their first step is a cease and desist order. So if we limit this to one production run........... :D

.....Club sport rim for the background... subtle H4 lens outline scribed into the crystal, leather wrapped metal wristband,.....and a big exclamation point somewhere to remind us of our 928's :D

Think if you want the man hole covers, you should have that be the back of the watch, not on the face. Most wanna get away from the look of those wheels. I know I don't want to be seeing them every time I look at the watch, but think it'd be neat to have the back cover look like em in honor of the original designs associated with the 928.

How about this? Only well done by someone with skillz.

Using Robert's hood liner decal design.

I'm in if it looks good.

Erm, rubber wrapped kevlar wristband with the round (sorry OB guys) teeth of the timing belt raised pattern.
Teeth facing in for cooler wrist.
Or teeth facing out for design distinction.

Heck..use all the old timing belts for the wrist bands...good idea Ern..

I'm interested.

You could get a pic of the headlight area, sort of like Randy's avatar but pan to the left(or right) a bit. If you frame it right it would be MY-agnostic(but use a car with 8" H4's :p )

So you don't want the DOT 8" style with the aiming nipples on the watch crystal.

Full disclosure -- I'm not going to buy a $300 watch any time soon, no matter how awesome.

But yeah, avoid the H5's not only on the car but on any collector stuff related to the 928. They suck.

Yep - no nipples - its a family show...

I'd favor a simple classic design, not too much clutter, not too wierd - I do like the idea of the band in the style (approx) of a timing belt (outside).

Alan

WOW! This thread has really taken off and gone back and forth...

The horologist/jeweler friend of mine IS a 928 owner (S4) and posts here from time to time...He met with the reps today for the company that we will be doing this through.

The case is 40mm or 42mm I can't remember, true/real Carbon Fiber face, auto winding movement and it looks like the price is going to come in at $525. I know that will run more than a few of you off. We are looking for the minimum run of 100...

More to come...hope we can pull this off.

Jim: We have a rendering from (almost) everyone but you. I exaggerate. What we've seen and heard decsribed so far is very "swatch" and I'm losing interest. I realize this is not your fault, you are trying to offer something of value. I'm just saying from a marketing standpoint that a rendering at the get-go is better than this free for all. Good luck.

+1
Would be good to have three, or more, conceptual themes to look at. From this, collect comments/recommendations that ultimately drive the final design.

No way, I like the chrome rings!

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...100_2049-1.jpg

With comments like this I can see why Dan said F-it!

You know it was not my objective to waste the time of the horologist or the manufacturer if there was no interest at all in this... I was not around for the first round, but clearly this will take more intestinal fortitude than I had anticipated...

"Swatch like"... Since when did Swatch start selling autowinding $500 watches??? I could send you to the website to check out the "normal" offerings of this company now, but choose not too... I am not trying to "offer something of value" to anyone either. I would like a "928" watch that looks good and will look good on my wrist and in the case with my other 20+ watches, I just need to find 98 other people who want a cool quality piece too or I can't afford to have my own 928 watch... I won't be making a DIME off this...it is not a business for me in any way...Just thought a few of you guys might like a 928 watch too is all.

Not to mention I am not asking for your money sight unseen. You will see the rendering when it is done. We have decided to go ahead and have that done and then see where we end up... OR, Steve and Dan H you are welcome to make your own rendering to show off, since you seem to know so much about this whole watch thing than me...

Jim: I thought crediting you with " . . . producing something of value" was a postive statement. I see you don't take it that way, sorry for the vaguery. Fair enough. "If it looks good, I'm in." Good luck.

But if it's swatch-like, I'm out. :bowdown: :eek:

Steve, thanks didn't read it the right way.

If I even THOUGHT this was going to be SWATCH like, I wouldn't be wasting my time or yours! That said, even the Quartz version of this companies standard watches ROCK! Love the look of them. I and the 928 enthusiast horologist will make sure that when we have a good dial design you will see it here first! We will make them go back if the first version does not rock...

Whoa settle down pardner. Nobody is calling your baby ugly. We would just like to get a peek at her that's all. I am not so right-brained so it is difficult for me to imagine all of the ideas others have submitted. If you read my suggestion it was to put the numbers 9, 2 and 8 on the hour, minute, second hands.... that's about as creative as I can be and why I seconded the request for some conceptual designs.

I intended no malice whatsoever in my post. I understand the sensitivity of trying to coordinate this when part of a large eclectic community. I don't think anyone is negative on the idea, except realitve to cost for some. I love watches, love the 928 and will be an eager buyer when the final design, no matter what it is, is approved and the watches are manufactured.

I just checked the clock and realized it is Beer-O'Clock in Texas. Wish I were there to share one with you.

Cheers Brother :cheers:

Go for it James, and I for one can't wait to see it. Just give us a little more info. ETA movement? Unitas? Sweeping seconds or subdial? Date or other complications? Bracelet or strap? SS case? C'mon a little information leaking out is a good thing. :)

I wear a Seiko Orange Monster as my daily beater, would love something similarly hefty and a 42mm size sounds perfect.

$800 Porsche "Swatch" watch...

http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/19/14/f022_1.JPG

Timing Belt Band? If you can do tire tread, why not a TB?

http://i.ebayimg.com/16/!BS1fpDwBWk~...rHOEe!~~_1.JPG

I'd be interested; love to see design choices - frankly, if I'm going to spend this kind of money, I would prefer a finer watch movement and materials. I'm not real thrilled about only the 9, 2 and 8 being the only numbers, it makes the watch face unbalanced; making the 9, 2 and 8 stand out from the other numbers (gold versus silver, for example) might be more visually appealing; however, because the watch, in whatever iteration will be unique, I'm interested in the project.

I'm a TAG fan when they were THE timing and scoring suppliers for F1..............have had one for many years but would be interested in an inovative design for the 928 marque.

I sent an email to see if the mock up of the face was done yet, but have not had a response... Be patient guys, it is coming. And frankly I have no idea what these guys (the pro's who make nice watches and sell zillions of them) have come up with either. I have passed on a few ideas and we shall see.

Hell, I might not like it either and just tell them to pound sand... That said, the horologist that has the relationship with the manufacturer has seen and sold 10's of thousands of watches and he knows what he likes, what sells, and what looks good and what is quality, AND he is a 928 fan so he has a vested interest making this cool and fun and he sells watches because that is what he loves!

I am pretty sure he is not going to be buying any new 928's with any amount of money that he will make off of this project...I will be making $0 on this, so I have no desire to make this difficult or controversial. That said, I have one of the Porsche Designs watches (someone posted a pic of one) and they really don't have any design other than the name that would make you think they relate to the cars and I hope this one will have a little more with the 928... Also those Porsche watches start at over $600 and they are Quartz movements. Those are NOT autowinders so in the eyes of most watch guys you are paying a solid $500 per watch for the name "PORSCHE" on it...

These will (or should) be higher quality and more watch afficianado oriented.

Again, I am as anxious as you guys and we will see how it looks soon...

Guess with an autowinder there's not backlighting of the watch-face with a 'Timing Belt Tension' light.

chunky, stainless steel ala submariner......im in

This just in: All American's have been asked to refrain from using the word "horologist " for the next 60 day's. The word was initially coined as a joke, and it appears that entirely too many people have begun using it as a real word.

I'm just glad I saw it spelled before hearing someone else say it. :atwhore:

Hi. I'm a series amateur horologist.

I'm into hors.

Is that someone skilled at the art of going to parties and eating hors doofers?

Hey.
Pigs in a Blanket.
Cool.



So. If timing belt watchband.
Teeth in.
or
Teeth out.

Teeth in does let a rubber band breathe but the teeth out band looks sooo much cooler.

Teeth in would also have less of a tendency to break off and would leave a cool timing belt teeth pattern on the wrist of the user (my Porsche Design chrono leaves a slight imprint of the tread design on the strap on my wrist when I take it off)...

Here is my $200 fake Porsche Design...

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/face.jpg

The tire tread is on the inside...
http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/band.jpg

Not a bad looking fake...

I like the big white hands over black face. Makes it a lot easier to read than a lot of other watches I have.

James,

Thanks for sharing your idea with us. I think that the members have many great ideas as to what the watch should include (TB strap, H5 chrome ring, etc...) and hopefully some of them may make it into the production version. Also, a working chrono would be sweet.

As long as the watch is truly unique in design, you can count me in for one.

The Graham swordfish or chronofighter comes to mind for some styling cues that are similar to those of the 928. Keep us posted!

Instead all that stuff around the winding crown, swap in a fascimile of the tensioner with the winding/adjuster crown in it.

Guess Rog would have a fit if the needles had notches at the ends like the 5-speed shift stick.

I collect wrist watches, along with cars. Swiss-auto wind is the way to go. My 928 is an 87 black on black, S4 auto. STAUER maybe able to help you out. Joe.

ETA 2824 movement
42mm Sand blasted SS case
Screw down crown
Super luminous printing on the dial (all of it, including the "logo")

Not happy with the current mock up so sorry I am not willing to post it right now...

Thanks guys for hanging in there with me. This is not a short term project or a quick deal...gonna take some time...

"Time" is what this thread is all about.

I for one will not get wound up about it!

Time waits for no one

Joe and Dan are SOOOO punny!

I hope we can make this happen...it really comes down 100 folks saying I'll take one and putting their money where their mouth is... If it does not look good (and of course that is subjective) it won't happen at all, so here is hoping that this piece is TIMELESS!

A hand I cannot give you but I am sure it will be a jewel. I will continue to watch this thread chronologically to see when you have it dialed in. I will not wind you up any further as I make my escape(ment)!

Joe, don't hold him over a barrel. Everyone knows putting together a deal like this requires movement as a train...I mean no one wants to feel like a third wheel, but once it's right it hits the pallet like a fine wine...a crowning achievement as it were. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.

If this was possible James and I would make enough money from the "miracle healing" to rescue every shark available. :D

Wouldn't that be fun! :jumper:

You guys are GREAT! Concur with your last post there Joe and look forward to the day! :)

Best to all I hope we will have a good rendering of what might come by the end of this week. Patience is a virtue when doing this kind of thing so I appreciate those of you who are virtuous.

Thanks James for the perserverence. Looking forward to the rendering.

I'll "watch" from here. :typing:

Guys,

Here is a mock up of the dial and the case and band are correct as well, but the band is flexible and could be changed. The case is set the movement would be Swiss automatic as discussed earlier.

This might be a little simple for some of you but right up my ally personally. We could use different hands and we could put "928" in the lower half of the dial if that is something you guys would prefer.

I love it James, although the icon above the sillouette, looks like two eyes and a nose.

I love it too, except the triangle icon. If you were to just put a "dot" there, it would look like the warning light icon on the center console. !

Love it!!!!

Good job James.

Looks nice James. I do agree to change the triangle & dots cause it looks to me like two eyes & a nose too! The open space in the lower right seems to beg for something, but not sure just what. But good job!

I'm not in the market but I agree about the 12:00 marker. Maybe just make the one along the edge a bit larger/tapered and lose the little gnome with Mickey Mouse ears.. Will it have luminescent markings?

I like the MY-agnostic silhouette!

Damnit, you guys just RUINED IT FOR ME! LOL! I NEVER saw that 12 o'clock icon as eyes and a nose and now that is ALL I CAN SEE! I HATE YOU ALL! ;)

We can change that easily. The watch by this manufacturer that is on my wrist as I type this has an up arrow at that location... we could probably do an oversize "!", for those with 928's they would certainly recognize the icon... What do you think about that?

Glad you guys are digging it! Sometimes less is more and sometimes it is just less...I think in this case less is more.

Working on one more rendering, will post when I get it.

Yes!!!!

Have it light up at 12:00? No? Ok, nevermind that part.

+1

Nice job, I love the simplicity of it. I would even venture to say you could eliminate the marks in between the 1, 2, 3, etc. to make it a little less busy. Yeah, need to remove the triangle or the dots. :)

Looks Great! Can you tell us the dimensions? How big is the diamter? What is the thickness? Can we see the wristband options? Can you provide a larger, higher res pic to look at?

+1 thats a good idea to help with the simplicity or lessen any clutter.

& another +1 for Eric's idea of the ! lighting up at 12 O'clock, that'd be too cool. If not, perhaps make it luminescent or in florescent red/orange.

I like it, but just HAD to monkey with it...

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/watchdesign.jpghttp://www.zipbang.com/928gts/watchdesign2.jpg

Made line silhouette and 928 look more like they go together.
if the watch did not have the triangle thing, would put the siihouette and 928 above the center instead of below.
Red second hand
Squared off minute and hour hands that look more like dash gauge needles.

Would do the band in black with red stitching.

I like the original concept with the 9, 2, 8 in their respective locations on the face. I also prefer the original hour and minute hand. The red second hand I like.

I prefer the esoteric-ness of the first design. I prefer a large watch face with black wrist bands. I enjoy what is different.

Second design reminds me of so many of marketing give away watches. Don't mean to sound negative about it, just in the quest for symmetry it becomes ordinary except for the logo.

"RKD in OKC" - I am impressed with your photoshop skills.

I think I like that revised look, but now I want the minute marks outta there, see what that looks like??

I like it. Would prefer the band as a timing belt look.

I think the 928 only on the dial is too odd & unbalanced looking. maybe a full set of numbers with the 9, 2 & 8 bolded/bigger/contrasting color would be OK.

But I actually prefer the simpler classic look of RKD's version.

Alan

I like RKD's version better, would would it look like with hands shaped like the pointers on the 928 gauge set and colored that same orange/red?

Possible to the have the rest of the numbers on the dial as smaller font and muted color/shade?
Feels a little unbalanced to my eye with just the '9' '2' '8'.

Okay, I did this one to match my GTS Dash...
http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/watchdesign3.jpg

That's nice. Good use of the hash's between the #'s. Good suggestion.

Edit: The 5, 6 & 7 look a little out of place though.

Very cool. I really like the tach look.

MORE Watches
 

Ok guys, let me see if I can answer a few ???? here...

I like having marks of some kind for the numbers...that is just me. I prefer NOT to have all the numbers though, but I DO like the tach style hash marks! VERY COOL!

I also like the pointer needle style hands (just hoping we can keep them that color and size and make them glow orange/red)...

I like the white "!" and was thinking maybe to put it on a small red background just like the button on the S4's and earlier cars...

The case is 42mm diameter, about 6mm thick, Swiss automatic movement (ETA as I recall, can't remember which one right now), case is Stainless Steel and the band is leather, though I am sure our watch guy could change that out for the right price... I have a black and a brown leather band on my two watches from this company and like both of them...

Here are the most recent renderings. I am glad we have come this far I am digging the look really.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. This is not ultimately going to make EVERYONE happy, but I hope it will be something everyone will want to have and be happy to live with!

BTW, it will NOT say commererative and even it is did it would be spelled properly! LOL!!!

I am pushing for 928 special edition or just 928 or NOTHING down there (maybe he makers logo...if it would save a few bucks! LOL!)

I LOVE the "commemerative" version, simple and elegant, kind of Movado-like. :thumbup::thumbup: Count me in if you pull this off.

I know, I am a photoshop phreak...
http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/watchdesign4.jpg

I like the tach look that RKD mocked up too ..but IMO the watch doesn't "look" like a $500 watch... Yea..I'm cheap...but if you could get a cheap chinese replica for $50...with that look...I bet you would sell a whole bunch of em :D :D...

I love the tach look - except it's not as unique as the last one posted by James.

There are already tach watches (I have two somewhere) out there. Yes I know not 928 specific.

Just the 9 - 2 - 8 numbers is very different. Just being picky, I like every style posted so far.

I bet you can't tell I like sports watches better than dress watches. :)

Yea, I like the less is more approach and I can tell you guys that this dial mock up stuff will not do justice to the real thing. This maker is AWESOME! I love the crystals, and any SERIOUS watch guy is going to want the automatic swiss movement not a $50 POS that will break in a month. A wicked exhibition back would make it even MORE COOL I think.

I like all the designs so far too, but I want to keep it a little more simple so probably not gonna have all the numbers and probably not the tach look, but we will see. I'd rather have some kind of cool "!" than the tach... I have NEVER seen another car with a "!" button in it and that would be a real stand out for a 928 watch.

Thanks for all the support guys...these watches look GREAT in the flesh and if they do half as good a job on the 928 watch as they do on their regular stuff, you guys will LOVE IT!

RKD, you are photoshop crazy man! I appreciate all your work on this too!

I thought this was an interesting idea. What can beat your own car on your watch?

http://cgi.ebay.com/I-will-print-the...3A1%7C294%3A50

Well, we are closing in on this thing... Here is a bit more info...

The run will be limited to 150 pieces in total...

A special box and band (different from the already nice box and band normally associated with this manufacturer) will be on tap for us. The band is going to be something along the lines of the Ball Fireman II band, so you can look up Ball watches and see what we are talking about there.

Normal price for this watch (ie. the case, movement) is $495, and the dealer is going to make it available to those of us here in Rennlist for that same price or REALLY CLOSE (think $525 or less). What does not sell here will be marked up to a retail of $695...

So, we are going to get a nicer than standard version of a very nice watch in limited numbers with special band and box, limited to 150 pieces, for the price of the run of the mill automatic normally sold! SMOKIN' DEAL! Thank goodness the dealer is a HUGE 928 fan or this never would have happened.

Here is the latest thought...I would like to do the white part of the Tach as well just because it will be kind of hard to ACTUALLY TELL THE TIME on this watch w/o some of those other land marks...

What say you guys?! Personally I LOVE the "!" on the red "button"...that is SOOOO 928! Oh, I personally prefer the hands to be the same color. I don't mind if the sweep second hand is different, but the hour and minute hand I prefer to be the same color and shape and I like the idea of them matching the pointers in our cars!

Liebe das! How about instead of Limited Edition...."German Movement" a la Swiss Movement or some German play on that ?

Call it the 928 SE (Special Edition) :D

Looks good James..

James that's very nice- classy and understated. Will you go for the exhibition back?

Steve

Thanks guys, I am really warming up to this big time! Some great ideas on the theme too so we will put some in others not and we will see where we end up.

Steve my understanding is yes on the exhibition back, but I have asked the question to be sure that can be there for $500...I suspect it costs more to do that to put a metal back on the watch!

Check this one out (I have requested the Tach marks like the last one RKD did as well as hour and minute hands both orange/red, and the second hand black with white tip). I like the simplicity with just the red line marks, but think it might actually be hard to use as a watch w/o a few other marks on it!:

Nowdays everyone is surrounded by the time: cell phone, computer, car dash etc..

The primary function of a wristwatch is as an accessory. If one just wants a wristwatch to tell the time, one should just wear a $20 digital.

Charley,

How true, how true!!! LOL!

Personally I love the original rendering you posted. Classic pilot's watch look with the triangle/dots (traditional in a pilot's watch), asymmetrical numbers and full indicies, with the redline indices as RKD did. I kind of agree with someone else, that if it's symmetrical it's just another watch and nothing special. Having just the 9-2-8 on the dial is really different, makes it stand out. I'm not a big fan of the "!" at 12, but I could get used to it. Love the pilot look though, great design.

James, I'm a-liken it more in the last iteration. One technical point, red, unless it is a light, is almost unseeable in low light or darkness. I would rethink the use of red for the end of the second hand, should be white, perhaps a big dot, and the minute hand, though I like the look in the daylight.

Dan, good call on that. Will mention it.

Mark, glad you are happy with it too. I agree, asymetrical is best on something like this so it will really stand out and I just wanted to see the tach marks with the last pic that I posted. Might be to much, but wanted to see it so I could say for sure.

Thanks all!

James, This one is fantastic. Its pure 928 SHARK! I love it. Have it made with an auto movement, I'am in!!
WE are talking about the one pictured above on pcar928fan, I hope.

Depends on the job/person. I'm usually pretty time focused. But i'll agree, this wouldn't take the place of my G-Shock.

James, looks good!

Jon, thank you sir!

Polecat, we are talking a Swiss auto movement and I hope an exposition back too! The only changes that I wanted to take a look at before locking this thing down were more position markers from about 8 o'clock in white all the way around to the "redline"... those would of course glow and make it easier to tell time with the watch.

The other thing that was pointed out is that (unless the red glows) it will be hard to see the second hand as well as the other hands in the dark... We will be checking on that. Some are not big on the "!" button at the top but I am partial to it, so I think it will be staying... It really is a mark of a 928 that no other car I have ever seen has... though I guess if you have an '89 or newer 928 you don't have that button in your car...everyone else does though and doubtless you have seen one even if you don't own a car with one of them! LOL!

At $500 this is going to be a smokin' deal for those who get in on this via the forum here!

Our designer is putting in overtime on this one...

Check this out... Now we have the full "tach" look...though I like RKD's "tach" a bit better and suggested we try that one too...

I like the slightly better balance of having the white markers, not sure about the red markers for the numbers... What do you guys think. I don't think this is toooooo busy either...just about right for me. The previous version was a bit austere for me.

FWIW, I asked my wife for an unbiased opinion, since she doesn't care about watches in general. I simply asked her which design represents a unique link to the 928, and showed her the various designs so far. She chose this one:

https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...s-928watch.jpg

Her comment was that all the others are too busy, this one is simple, classy and unique. I agree :thumbup:

Rich

If you are going to do the tach thing...
All the markers except for redline area white.
Minute markers much thinner and about half the length of hour markers.
Little less busy than the bigger minute marks, does make it look like an actual watch though.

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch2.jpg

My GTS does not have the "!" but both of my 944 Turbos did have the "!", 80's Porsche thing not a 928 only thing. Still cool!

What she said...... I really like the "austere" look. Really sets it apart. I am no particular fan of minimalist Movado watches, but there is no denying one when you see it across the room. When you put all the hash marks on the face of the latest design it begins to look like so many other sport watches.

I will be honest here, part of the reason some people, read me, like decidedly unique things, like this watch design and my 928, is because it is, well, notably different from the mainstream. I enjoy it when people notice my car and ask about it. I want the same thing in this watch. Call me an :atwhore: if you like. When it comes to my cars and watches they all stand out from the crowd in some way. I like that. Lemmings we 928 owners are not. Might also be why it will be difficult to come up with a universally accpeted design. Regardless of the the final decision, I will be part of the group by.

Oh one last thing, really need to think about the red and low/no light. It will be an issue.

The orange color needs more red. I don't like the double lines for the numbers - they are what's making this look busy.

ok I really like that last rendering RKD, gets the tach look down. The only change I would suggest is removing the 928 from the silhouette. Those numbers are already in the dial and having them at six o'clock is redundant. Not to mention, part of the appeal of this watch is being "in the know" about 928s and with it there, it gives the game away too easily.

Hey James, one additional idea. Since this is a "big pilot" it really needs the big crown to go with it, like this IWC. Completes the look.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/DSC_0007.jpg

Made the 928 numbers a little bigger, deleted the 928 from the logo, made the red line area start sooner.

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch3sm.jpg http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch1.jpg

The two best IMHO side by side

ok, I don't have photo shop, but here is my 928cents worth. This is with the five minute marks only. Without them its too empty & with the minute marks its a bit too cluttered to me. And since I don't have photo shop, I could only get the ! mark at the 6 o'clock position. And I like the 928 numbers under the car, leaves no doubt as to what the tribute of the watch is for.

If you think about it, who truly pays attention to the smaller marks on your tach or speedo as you drive anyways?? Its only the main marks that you look at usually. Same with a watch to me, as long as I can see the 5 min./hour marks, I'm good. The minute marks just clutter it up.

Perhaps to balance it out, move the Limited Edition lettering above the center.

Here it is with the Limited Edition moved above center to balance it out more.

Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you the Limited Edition Shark Watch

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch3sm.jpghttp://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch4sm.jpghttp://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch5sm.jpg

I took out the 928 in the silhouette because I agreed it looked like the watch was saying 928 928. It looked bare and top heavy without it. I thought of "Shark" to fill the hole and think it gives and apt name to the watch design.

I did the middle one just to offer because I know people would say what would it look like if... For me if you are not going with the tack look with the minute marks, then it looks cleaner with the hour marks removed where there are numbers.

I am indifferent on the Limited Edition text, but I do think having it on the watch makes it look more like it is not a cheap custom logo watch.

I like the 2nd version of the shark design as presented by RKD (Can't see the difference between that one and the third option). The additional tick hour hash marks help. I would drop the "shark" from the silohuette. I think no words is best. Would even nix the "Limited Edition" annotation. The watch says that in appearance.

I like the 2nd version by RKD, just as it is now. When will the watch be available?


Joe N.
87 928 S4
Blk on Blk auto
74 Pantera
87 aero coupe
84 SS El Camino
05 Tahoe

I really really like this one!
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...s-928watch.jpg

Great work, James! :) Thanks for making this collaborative. Now I want one.

I am also for the center one in RDK's post. Nice work, wish I could afford to order one. (out of work)

Okay, here is the set with no shark...

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watchrkd1.jpghttp://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watchrkd2.jpghttp://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watchrkd3.jpg

RKD,

Good work and thanks to all for the input... I am partial to #1 followed by #2, but still would like to see "928" in the silhouette at the bottom.

Also, as a reminder, the hands are ORANGE, the redline and "button" are red and all the rest is white (which glows green of course)... the orange and red glow orange and red but are not nearly as bright as the white (nee. green) just so you guys know.

Not sure which one of these faces we are going to see in full on prototype form and it will take 2 weeks for us to get that back.

We will take deposits after a first full prototype is finished and we are going to have the exposition back! YEA!

I am guessing deposits (via PayPal, or CC) will be due by the end of August if you want in on the $500 deal and the balance will be due on shipping and I anticipate that would be by the 2nd week of October.... Think Sharktoberfest!

The factory stock crown for these watches is very nice IMHO, but we are looking in to the possibility of making a special one that mimics a piston for this watch! Will keep you posted!

Perry, I feel your pain bro'...been out of work myself since last Dec and NOTHING is on the horizon.

Rich and Dan, I agree there is something about that austere look that is compelling but to me it lacks a certain amount of balance and usefulness as a watch (and contrary to popular sentiment I still look at my wrist when I want to know what time it is...so that is important to me).

RKD, you are doing an awesome job taking the ideas of folks here and the base watch design we started with and integrating all the elements! Thanks so much for your hard work on this my friend!

When i first heard the idea on this thread i thought it was tacky

Having now owned a NON DIGITAL DASH CAR I can now appreciate the warning "!" which is the 12 indicator. I like the touch of showing only the numbers 9 2 and 8

Nice work, not something I would buy but it looks good guys.

ALSO

PLEASE DONT PUT "SHARK" IN THERE!

"Shark" has NOTHING to do with Porsche whatsoever. I also think its redundant to put "928" there also with only 9 2 and 8 showing on the face.

I also think the background should have some kind of texture, with just a simple matte black or graphite color and only basic script in white and orange/red it is very very plain. Simple but perhaps you could create some detail in the overall background by either some type of machined metal to serve as the background or some type of very simple yet detailed pattern in the background to give it some depth. The way the face looks now it looks like a $30 watch not a $300 or $500 watch. Detail it up a bit

That's a lot of input for a watch your wouldn't buy, lol!! Have a good one Ryan.

Have to agree on the face though, needs a texture or a finish of some kind to richen it up.

I told you I was a photoshop phreak...just can't help myself.....

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watchrkd1p.jpg

Yea, Ryan, that is a whole lot of thought and suggestions for something you already are not interested in... sheesh man...

The renderings are based on CAD stuff the dial has a beautiful texture to it and the crystal is convex and one of my absolute favorite crystals on any of my 30 watches! Trust me this thing will look like the $700 watch it will be if you miss out on the first round at $500...

Here is another question for you guys.

What color would you like to see the second hand in? White or Orange (to match the hands)?

We are going to leave the "928" off of the real deal and just have the silhouette instead.

RKD, good rendering on this last one. The colors look correct. Red "!" "button", red redline, orange hands! PERFECT!

We will see what comes back from the factory now! Really getting excited about this guys! I hope most of you are too! This will be a VERY high quality piece, from the movement all the way down to the presentation box it comes in trust me!

I like the #1 as well. too rich for my blood the money could be better spent on the shark parts with my thin wallet. The watch looks great maybe one day.

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch1p2.jpg

I will be disappointed if the minute marks are not really thin like on the speedo and tach.
Also the hour marks at 9 2 and 8 shorter to make the numbers stand out.
I kinda like the black second hand with the white tip, we can't get that?

RKD, you know I said the same thing about the second hand... Will pass it on that my idea was liked by at least one other. Still plenty of time on this, but we wanted to get a REALLY good handle on the dial before we proto'ed it. It takes time and money to do that, so we didn't want to waste any of it if at all possible... I think we have done very well on this project so far. I agree that the "minute" marks should be (and will be) smaller than the 5's and of course the ones at 8,9, and 2 will be smaller as well. In fact it is your rendering above that has been emailed off to Germany to be turned in to a real dial!

So, if you don't like it you will know who to blame! LOL! Really RKD, great stuff man, thanks so much for the help!

I guess if we got down to it later we could drop the "Limited edition" and do it in a Quartz movement for those on a tighter budget...the problem is that most folks who can afford a $300 Quartz watch can also probably afford a $500 automatic... Keep in mind the "PORSCHE" watches you can get up at the dealership are Quartz and start at over $550 and most are over $700! I have one and I like it, but DANG that is some bucks for a Quartz watch!

Because you PAY $700 to buy a watch which says "PORSCHE" on it at the dealer does not mean its a $700 watch. Merchandise is where allot of brands make their biggest killing. Ferrari, Porsche, Merc, BMW all make 10's of millions of dollars selling this stuff. And its all just $1 pens sold for $25, or $2 caps sold for $30 or $20 jackets sold for $90. Its all just markup, your paying for the name. So yeah im sure that the watch sold with the Porsche or Ferrari name costs no more then 20% of its retail value to produce. The best part is they never have to advertise this crap, people that want it seek this stuff out, no advertising budget needed to reduce the profit on these items, they are huge huge money makers.

I do think the watch concept turned out better then i first imagines, i like the ideas used, for those that are into watches and 928's it should be a nice little collectable to have.

nice work

As stated before, drop the "shark" and the "Limited Edition" from the face. Again, the uniqueness of the watch makes it diferent and the limited edition really does not mean anything to anyone but us. If you must have "Limited Edition" on something put it on the box and documentation that describes the watch.

Why have a second hand at all if it is black? You can't see it, even if the tip is white. If the tip was a larger dot that was easily recognizable as it swept around the dial then the black of the main part of the second hand doesn't matter if you can't see it. I like the orange and red but you will probably have to see the pre-prod mockup and wear it a day or two in varying light conditions to see if those colors are visible in low light environments.

Sure would be neat if the watch had a "calibration setting", similar to how a modern guage calibrates at startup.
I'm not saying it needs to actually calibrate, but would be cool if it would do a custom full-sweep movement and 9:28 am & pm.


I'm agree the Limited Edition is not necessary. Though my opinion should be taken lightly because I'm on the fence and haven't commited to order... yet. :)

Here ya go Dan...though I don't think the visibility of the second hand is that big of a deal since all it's really good for is so John Cameron Swaizy can show it "Takes a licking and still keeps ticking" after running over it :)

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watch1p3.jpg

James,
I'm not thrilled about the green glow. I'm not a watch collector, so I don't know. Is this traditional?

RKD that last rendering is perfect, I love it! And James if you can do a piston crown that would be incredible, perfect topper for the watch. Count me in for the full monty, exhibition back, piston crown and a pilot strap. Love it!

The lume on a watch will glow a greenish yellow, leaning toward white depending on the type of lume used. Seiko uses just about the brightest around and it has that greenish cast, looks like it's powered in the dark. I doubt it will be this bright, but it will look good. I'm wearing one of these right now.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../seikolume.jpg

Where are we at price wise? About the same as a Movado or upwards of a Rolex Daytona? :D

Will I be selling my 928's to buy a 928 watch? :p

RKD - :bigbye: Ha! 2-fun-e. BTW, I work for Adobe. Keep the Photoshop revenue coming in :typing: Watch looks good in this latest configuration as long as the hands glow bright enough in lowlight. I plan on showboating it while out on the town in my car. Would like to know I could read it at night.

James - good ideas flowing from everywhere. You're doing a great job of collecting everyone's input. Must be like herding fornicating cats. I feel confident the end result will be worth it. Thanks for getting this started and following through.

To me, the 2nd hand needs to be white to be seen or useful. The black with the small white tip is hardly visable. Being white would make it distinctive from the other hands on a quick glance. The 928 under the car looks good to me, but even without it is nice. I agree no need to have the Limited Edition written on it, that will be obvious with the unique look of the watch.

Regarding the difference in $300 to $500, that's almost double in price. I agree its a great bargain whether quartz at $300 or automatic at $500, but you will have many more potential buyers at $300. Especially if you need sell 100 watches to make this work. That could be the obvious critical factor for any on the $$ fence. It won't do any good if you only have 50 willing to pay $500 & it doesn't happen, vs 100 who can shell out $300 & the watch becomes a reality.

I have a Casio WaveCeptor that the LED backight lights up the watch from around the outside edge of the face like a gauge. THAT would be WAY cool!

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/casiolight.jpg

You can set it so that when you hold your arm up like you are going to look at your watch and tilt the watch towards you, the backlight automatically lights for 20 seconds.

^^ very cool idea. 20 seconds though? How long does it take you to see the time, seems like a battery waster.

Do you ever look at your watch and immediately forget the time, so you look again? And still it doesn't register, so you have to look a third time. And then someone asks you what time it is, and you actually have to look at your watch for the forth time in three minutes? Don't you feel stupid?
-Carlin

What you write is classic symptoms of .... hmmmm..... funny I just had it on the tip of my tongue..... oh forget it, I can't remember now.

Oh yeah! Alzheimers.

Practice this little diddy and repeat to yourself every morning before going out the door

Watch - Wallet - Testicles - Spectacles. If you can say yes to all four, you're good to go :bigbye:

The LED light doesn't use very much battery. And it's pretty smart. Moving my arm around every which way doesn't light it. The watch has to be level plus or minus a few degrees then tilted toward you at least 15 degrees or it doesn't light. I timed it a couple of times and it stays on for more like 5 seconds not the 20 it says in the manual. Looks like they revised the watch programming and forgot to update the manual. I leave the automatic light turned off.

Guys,

Thanks for the support. Looking forward to making this a reality. It will be easy enough to choose a second hand color later as well as removing the "Limited Edition" from the face. Those are small potato's compared to the overall design issues that we faced with this. Looks like we are all in line and liking what will likely be the final form, so keep your eyes peeled for a proto face in a couple of weeks!

The green glow is the standard deal. This company uses a VERY luminous material too, not unlike that Seiko shown! The red will glow red and the orange will glow orange, but neither will be as bright as the "white" areas.

Special presentation box, nice custom strap (vs. the standard version of this watch that is imported and available for $495)...exhibition back... This is going to be a watch you can be VERY PROUD OF!

Thanks for the support guys!

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

James the watch is looking great, but why do I keep thinking that at $500 a copy, 100 buyers is just WAY TOO optimistic? I'm thinking maybe 12. I sure hope I'm wrong.

Thanks James! :thumbup: Sounds great & again count me in.

Charley,

Minimum order is 100 and there are already 50 at or above the $475 poll mark... So, while 100 might be a little rich, we will just have to see... it either dies for lack of interest and funds or we order at least 100 watches and sell them one way or another.

Some folks are car AND watch folks others are not and this is for those who are BOTH. That is why we have chosen to do a very nice watch movement vs. a cheap Quartz movement that does not appeal to serious watch guys.

Actually there are 51 above the $375 poll mark. Only 22 above the $500 mark.

I hope I'm wrong, because I love the watch, and I think you've done a hell of a job dealing with all the ideas and pulling it all together very patiently.

I should probably keep my mouth shut, but i'm just sayin'...

I don't think you'll have trouble selling 100. James and I account for two of them and take the rest to OCIC, Sharks in Hell, Sharktoberfest and SITM '10 if there's any left. They will go quick. BTW James, will they be serialized? I know it's an exhibition back, but I'd even pay a little extra for something along the side of the case like '928SE No. 1 of 100' :D

Charley,

You are right... I couldn't remember what that middle number was it is in fact $375, not $475...

We shall see...this is something that has NEVER BEEN BEFORE and may never be again (though I suspect if it is a success there could be future, new styles of 928 watch)... I would hope that most 928 fans would suck it up for $500 and join in but I know this is a tough time for many (me included, I have been out of work since Dec), but you know somethings and sometimes you just have to say WTF!

Mark I believe they will be numbered 001-150 (as 150 is the target purchase right now)... I will be sure of it as that is no big deal right there, so I would say yes, expect to have a specific watch # that is YOURS!

I have a feeling that some in the poll will be willing to pay more once they see the finished product.

Bill, I hope you are right. I can tell you the standard watch from this German company is pretty awesome. I have one with a black band and chrono and one with a brown band and no chrono and they are my GO TO watches because the look SO RIGHT! This watch will be even BETTER, so I think this could be a seriously awesome buy for folks and a seriously awesome watch to be VERY proud to wear and show off!

Bump for an intriguing product...and yes, damn!...I'm interested.

Dibs on serial # 928 :)

Joe,

I don't think we will get a number quite that high! Good call though!

RKD- I don't have the photoshop skills you have... so I did this the old fashioned way -with MS Paint. It is extremely pixelized, but you get the idea.

James- I thought some of the fans of high-end watches would appreciate what appears to be an additional complication -a seconds subdial with the look of a bezeled gauge. Also, to keep some symmetry I changed the hour markers to the same length as the minute markers -only about 3 times the thickness (remember some watches like Movado have no markers and you can still tell the time). A larger crown gives a better overall 'feel' to the watch and the overall design gives a classy, yet quite a sports-car flair. I also added a rear spoiler to the 928 silhouette! There is plenty of room between the 6 & 8 position to place the "Made In Germany" tagline.

You may find it interesting to know... the original watch is styled after an almost identical pilots watch in the same stark black & white only it came in a 52mm diameter case. It was quite popular with the German fighter & bomber pilots of WWII. Many companies are reproducing almost exact duplicates in smaller sizes these days. Only brands like IWC and other Swiss companies are considered the 'high-end' versions of this timepiece.

What do you think?

Barry, I was trying to make the hour/minute marks look like the dash tach and speedo so the watch would match the car more closely. I assume the movement James had picked was a center second hand and any other movement would be less desirable or more costly so I reigned in my desire to make a chronometer instead of a watch. Being a GTS owner and feeling a little left out on the "!", I do like the spoiler addition to the silhouette.

A sub seconds dial would require a different movement, not simply a chrono addition. And please don't add that spoiler...those of us with the far superior 'S' spoiler might object. ;) BTW James, did you ever mention what the original watch is? I have an idea, but I'd like to know even if you PM me, I won't tell.

RKD: Yes, the dial should mimic the tachometer... so the hour markers all need to be the same length -it looks odd to have the 9-2-8 markers be shorter than the rest. The "!" probably applies to about 95% of the 928s produced, so even though a GTS doesn't have it -all 928 owners still know what it is. And yes, the movement would be differerent to have a sub seconds dial but in reality, a seconds hand isn't really necessary (Movado).

Mark: I thought the addition of the spoiler would further identify the silhouette as a 928... versus the 911 silhouette used by PAG on the varsity jackets. Without it, they are just too similar. BTW, neither of the factory spoilers perform the way they should... they are too short and too narrow to effectively engage the slipstream of air going over/around the car (just a personal gripe -look at wind tunnel photos).

I have found several pics of the originals and the repros of the watch in question and will try to post them all with the company name and size...

The original pilot's watches were made by only 5 companies: IWC, A. Lange & Sohne, Laco, Wempe, & Stowa. All 5 are still in business!

This one is an original Wempe (Alpina movement) in 55mm! It is huge.

Here is an original A. Lange & Sohne also in 55mm...

Here are some of the modern creations in the same style... by Laco (42mm front & back -check out the 'timing belt' air ventilation strap!), Steinhart (44mm), & Debaufre (44mm & Limited Edition of 200 in 48mm):

More modern versions from Tourby (42mm) & Stowa (40mm):

I have a small watch collection and use a Breitling B2 for daily wear... here is my WWII German pilot's watch (40mm without crown; 50mm with crown) made by a company called 'RELLUM' (I think it was from an occupied France company) -although it closely resembles one from Zenith (35mm):

I know...:_otopic:

Barry, I like your design there.... If this first one goes over I could see us doing a second one more like what you have shown! Please hold on to that design...we might need it later!

Also Mark, I did not say who the watch maker was... Was not ready to divulge that info lest someone be lurking and waiting to jump in with them before we had an opportunity to get our stuff on the radar with them. We have not got our stuff together so I am willing to mention them and offer a pic of the watch I have. Keep in mind our watch will only have the case and movement (and maybe crown) of the "normal" watch from this maker, but we will have a different band...

Actually I am not going to post a pic, but if you scroll up to one of Barry's first pics (it even shows the exhibition back!) and look at the 42mm Laco...you know who we are working with! I am wearing one of theirs RIGHT NOW! LOVE THEM!

James... I got the idea of a sub seconds dial from my own WWII pilot watch (above)... I wish I could research the serial number to find out information on the original owner!

Also, I think the company called Debaufre (tied in with Steinhart I think) offers the larger 'diamond' crown as shown on their 48mm Limited Edition for only $25 extra. From what I have seen in this thread, it may be so popular an option to warrant that every watch in the run has it... just a thought!

If you notice on the Laco, it shows a date window at 3 and the Tourby has a sub seconds dial at 9. I would think that having the sub seconds at the 6 would be fairly easy for a manufacturer to do... it shows at about 5-5:30 on my rendering, but it doesn't need to be that big either. ;)

Barry, we are hoping to get a 928 Piston as the crown, but we will see what can be done. I actually like the stock Laco crown myself, so I would not mind just seeing that on this watch.

Keep watching this space. We will have updates as we get them from the manufacturer.

UPDATE:

Germany has the face that we have come up with here and some money to get cracking on this project, so we are 95% go on this thing. I would say that last 5% is the remote chance we won't like the prototype, but we have seen a lot of stuff from this company that is AWESOME, so I am guessing we will be full on and looking for deposits VERY SOON!

Keep an eye on this place and if you have friends that are not here but are fans of 928's and wrist watches this will be THE PLACE to come to get yours!

Excellent news! Do you have an eta on pics of the prototype?

I am a Breitling Fanatic but would love a 928 watch. Let me know what the options are when you have them all ironed out.

Not sure, but I think they said the actual proto will take 3 weeks if I recall correctly. Will keep you all posted! Thanks for your patience and interest! Gonna be COOL when it is all done!

When I sent the final face graphics I thought I heard two weeks. Maybe that's just wishful thinking :)

Here is MY rendering using the higher resolution face graphic I was asked for them to make the proto from...

http://www.zipbang.com/928gts/928watchRender.jpg

Probably just wanted to make sure they had a better silhouette to work from than the low res stuff I was spitting out for our brain storming.
I understand they are also creating custom hands and crown for this watch.

ditch the car profile at the bottom. The watch already says 928 with the numerics.
less is more

Tony,

Sorry about that, but the silhouette will be staying... I LOVE IT!

I think we are supposed to see their rendition in a week and if approved a full on prototype two weeks later.

so will my $$:p

Tony,

That is fine...there will be others who love it and will be buying you can just ask them for the time when you need to know! ;)

Hi

I like the Design of this watch and Im looking forward to see pics of the prototype.

What kind of strap will you use?

What will be the price of the watch?

Looks great, can't wait to see the company rendering. And thanks RKD for getting these done!

Just treat it like a warning light you want to ignore, black piece of tape :p

We are looking for a good band. Probably going with a nice classy leather band that had perforations in it like our seats, but we are also looking at various rubber straps that might mimic a T-belt. Probably more likely to find the perforated leather band than a T-belt style band.

Poking around the internet and this partial ribbed rubber watch strap came up

http://www.strappedfortime.com/images/Img1330.jpg


They've also got wasserproof sharkskin bands.

http://www.strappedfortime.com/images/DSCN3125.JPG

Will forward them on to the maker...good work!

Shark skin seems somewhat appropriate! :thumbup:

Been informed that the Sharkskin bands tend to not be very comfortable, so we will probably go with a nice looking perforated leather to mimic our seats and then if folks want a different band they can venture out on their own for that. Easy enough to change them out so no biggie.

Since this is a Swiss autowinder we are also working on a deal for those interested in getting a watchwinder along with their watch! For those that have several different watches and HATE having to reset them, the winders are the ONLY way to go! These are top notch Wolf winders too, so keep your fingers crossed that we can make that deal happen as well!

This is sounding really good. Let us know when you need an order put together

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Waiting on a couple of pics so you can see where we are at. Gonna post a nice shot of the face we have submitted to Laco, as well as the "normal" exhibition back (we will have one with custom engraving for our watches so it won't be exact) and the band we will be using (perforated leather to mimic the "standard" seat in a 928).

When I have those pics you will see them here! Things are progressing nicely. We are still trying to decide exactly what we will do for packaging to make that special as well! The normal Laco box is pretty damn nice though, I can tell you that now!

All this quality and attention to detail will be YOURS for $495!!! While that is not cheap, you won't find any other watch of this quality with a Swiss automatic movement for anything like this price! We have been VERY FORTUNATE on all of this and I am thankful for the handful of folks who have helped make this a reality! How do I know it is a reality when I have not even seen a prototype yet? Money has been sent and we have commitment on the complete design from Germany! YEE HA!

I WILL have the Prototype at OCIC, but probably no production models for a few weeks after that. I will also have my finished DVD project on hand as well as an example (but probably not the finished product) for another 928 project I am rolling with now... This being out of work stuff has really given me the chance to work on some projects that have been in my head for a long time! NICE! Now lets hope I have a job by September when all of this is done and finished!

Here is the watch face without hands...

Then the watch band...though we are looking for a band with more and smaller holes and slightly less grain to better emulate the "standard" 928 seat.

The exhibition back is what we will have but the engraving will be specific to our Limited Edition 928 watch!

The final pic is what the hands will look like (though we are still discussing the second hand...)

Hope you guys enjoy. Oh, on the exhibition back pic you can see what the standard crown looks like...we are still trying to get a "piston" as the crown, but even if we can't this one is pretty nice!

Hot damn that is nice - now to find a way to sneak $500 away from the wife :p

Do you have a low interest payment plan?:roflmao:

LOL! No plan, you will have to work that out with various creditors on your own! This watch would normally retail (and will after the first orders are filled) for $695! Frankly I hope we sell all 150 of them in the first round and don't have any left to sell at the $695 price. Laco is not happy we are selling this bad boy for $495 though let me tell you! They are happy to sell us watches, but they don't like folks giving their stuff away when virtually all the other folks selling the auto watches are getting over $600 for them!

No doubt this is going to be one nice bit of wrist candy!

Will the bands be offered in close to Porsche leather colors? Just curious.


The two I can think of that's closely related to a winding crown is the remote hatch release pull knob and the fan speed adjust knob.

If you made the crown look like a dash knob you would HAVE to engrave watch hands on the flat portion similar to the icons on the dash knobs to show what it operates. :)

Ernest,
Only black as far as I know... I mean we could take this way out there but it would just get more and more expensive. You might be able to source a band in a particular color if you looked around though.

RKD, I like the knob idea! Very cleaver! I say use the fan speed knob!

James, what was wrong with the original Laco strap? It is actually 2 straps in one... brown leather outside with contrast stitching (like a leather interior) and timing belt ribbed with perforations inside. The space provided between for air circulation keeps the wrist from sweating and ruining the leather... theoretically of course. If someone sweats buckets, they may want a rubber dive strap.

I assume this also comes in black?

See pic:

James,
Watch looks great, I appreciate all the time that has gone into this project. It is very special indeed!

Glenn

James,
What is the crystal going to be made from?

Thanks,
Glenn

Glenn,

I think it is a mineral crystal, but could be sapphire, but I doubt it... It is one of my FAVORITE things about the LACO watches so I hope the one on this watch is just like the standard one. It does not photo well either, but trust me they are AWESOME! Very durable too.

On the band we wanted the perforations on the outside, but I do like the inside perforations and how they connect to the holes on the sides of the band to help keep the skin under the watch cooler. Very slick design. The stock band is available in black and brown...

Thanks for the Kudos guys...it would not have come out nearly as nice as it is going to be with RKD's help and would not be happening AT ALL without Chris at Valencia Time Centers (VTC's) connections! So if you need a watch check out his website. I hooked up with Chris through one of the Ferrari Forums where he is a sponsor and he is one outstanding individual and also happens to be a 928 S4 owner!

Now isnt there some guy in Texas that does a pretty good job(greatly understated) at custom leather interiors and the likes. :icon107: I bet he could do watch bands as well in the same color as your interior! Laser etched with whatever..etc etc Im sure it would be low on the priority list for him though. See what Paul can do for you guys.

TTT...'cause I'm interested in something I really shouldn't be :D

We are working with the German manufacturer now to get a prototype face here soon and a full proto watch to follow if the face looks just right. We should have pics of the REAL DEAL in a few weeks and we will start taking orders then.

Just so you guys know I will be taking it over to Pelican and Ruetter in case there are some guys over there that don't come here who want one. After the first round of orders are placed at $495 (plus tax and shipping I think...) the leftovers will be $695...

So buy early and buy often...

Fantastic James, just let us know when/how to place the order.

Fantastic James, just let us know when/how to place the order.

Are these watches still in the works?

Yes, I understand the goal is to have something by OCIC.

Sorry guys... Still waiting on a pic and solid word from Germany. The Swiss movements are a bit hard to come by right now apparently but we are still tracking to have the full prototype by OCIC! Hope it happens by then!

Watch this space!

Sounds great! Thanks for the update. I'm definitely interested and looking forward to prototype pics.

James, any updates? Was there a presentation at OCIC?

I would be interested in anything not quartz. Manual wind movement might let you get more bang for your buck over auto winding movement. It might prove difficult to get a really cool design below $1k. My interest will really depend on the design.

I don't think the Porsche part of it should be too in your face. I think what Panerai did on their Ferrari line was quite good for a car branded watch. Having my cars vin # etched into the case back would be cool. Don't think I would want that on the face.

A good place to look at awsome new watches is at timezone dot com. Check out their page showing the newest ideas from the Basel, Switzerland show last April. A chronograph function would be welcome too!

Sorry, i should have scrolled down in the thread. This seems to be much further on then I realized. Loved the 928 face you came up with. What size is the case? 40mm? I'm interested too.

Case is 42mm. Satin stainless steel. Exhibition back. Domed beautiful crystal. Custom band (plus one of the standard bands) with "928 LIMITED EDITION" on the back.

Engraving on the back of the case will also be "928 LIMITED EDITION" I don't think we will be able to get VIN's on the back now...just my gut feeling on that.

I showed one of the Laco watches that I LOVE and wear regularly at OCIC but unfortunately most of Germany is on vacation and they did NOT finish our face despite the promise to do so and money being sent to them for same!

Look at posts by RKD...he has done an EXCELLENT rendering of the face (which I printed and showed at OCIC as well.)

Hope the crown is going to be bigger. More like an onion crown.

Look forward to final pictures.

These are really cool, I just have no desire to spend that kind of money on a watch. Mine always get scratched up anyway.

Bronto,

I feel your pain...when I am wearing a nice watch I have to be REALLY careful! These are going to be REALLY COOL!

The crown is the stock LACO crown which I personally really like! I'll see if I can find a pic of it...

Here is what the back will look like (other than the engraving) and the crown will look like this one...

Bronto, been there done that. I felt the same with pens too. Found a pen I really like and just went for it. Since I really liked it I took better care of it and it lasted a very long time until I finally wore the plating off the darn thing. They quit making the pen, so now I have four of them stashed away waiting their turn to be used and enjoyed. Did the same with watches, tore them up all the time so only got cheap ones. After the pen experience I started wearing nice watches and have had great success wearing the plating off of them too.

Yes, I have a watch tan line, AND the inside corner of my shirt pockets are thread bare and raveled from the pen clip.

I tried that once with sunglasses, a nice pair of vuarnet's; lost 'em after a year.

I had to get prescription glasses to quit losing sunglasses. Even now I have flip up sunglasses that are attached to my regular glasses.

I'd just like to say that I _so_ don't care about wearing some wristwatch that matches my car. ok?

That's okay with me. Sometimes my socks don't even match.

Hey James:

I noticed on the back of the case is inscribed "Mineral Crystal". Would that mineral be Sapphire? If so, Sapphire is very scratch resistant, unless you rub it on concrete!

Regardless, I would not recommend "wrenching" on the car with this watch on. I have an old Seiko watch for that!

I love the face design. When you have these done, I'm definitely in for one.

Good work, btw! :rockon:

RKD... that's ok... my socks *never* match.

Shawn Smith... Thanks for the support dude. We will be sure NOT to save one for you. Didn't your mom teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all?! She should have...

RKD and Chris have put in a TON of time AND MONEY on this thing and comments like that are not appreciated nor helpful.

Thanks to all the others who have expressed excitement about this project and who have been so supportive. It is a LONG and involved process getting a QUALITY custom watch built and we are going to make it happen!

Not sure if the "mineral" is sapphire...can find out though.

In watch parlance, a mineral crystal and a sapphire crystal are very different. Mineral crystals will scratch and require care to keep nice. But they are also vintage and can be shaped more easily than sapphire. I've got two watches with sapphire crystals and they look as good as the day I got them, very scratch-resistant.

And I SOOOO want to wear a watch that matches my car!

(FWIW) I would like to thank RDK, Chris, and James for all the time and effort that they have put into this project. A watch of this quality for $ 500.00 or so is very little indeed. A watch with a Swiss Auto-Winde movement is well over $ 1000.00. I am really looking forward to owning one of these watches.
I would like to see them with a sapphire crystal, as Mark has said: that is the way to go, I don't think it will add that much more to the price of the watch, but it will make a huge differance in durability. Just my 2 cents.

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I like that crown. Not too big, not too small.

Wow! I love this watch!

I love watches but I have a very hard time finding any that look right on me. They are either too big or the band doesn't fit right. I finally found a Citizen Eco-Drive that was perfect.

Are there any actual brick and block stores that sell something similar to the face size and band so I can try it first? I would like to have one, but to shell out $500 on something I won't wear wouldn't sit right with me.


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Oh, hey, great job guys!

I just dropped in on this thread and am really delighted to see what has developed. Lacher is a respected German producer with very good quality, and a Swiss auto movement is a great second choice to a real German movement (which would have cost beaucoup bucks).

The face design is great, very cleverly integrating 928 specific elements while avoiding being kitschy.

So, are you guys thinking they'll be able to source ETA 2824 ebauches for this? I know that Swatch group was pulling back on selling these, reserving them for the brands within their group, and that prices and availability were going to be rising and declining, respectively, in 2010, if not before, as the better capitalized brands would probably try to stock up before being cut off.

If it comes to pass that the autos are unavailable, I'd be really happy to see a handwinding Swiss movement in there as well.

Although I'd prefer to go without the silhouette on the dial, I do think one of these would be a great add-on to 928 ownership, and a blast to wear at P-car GTGs. I hope to buy one when they're available.

Again, great job and thanks to all involved!

Chad, glad you like...

The movement will be ETA 2824...last I was told anyway... NICE movement, and you are right true German movement would be a FORTUNE!

Rick, do a search for LACO watches and see if there is a dealer near you. These are what I think of as the standard LACO watch, but that may not be the case...may just be the case for Chris (Valencia Time Center). The case size on these watches will be 42mm, so in theory you could try on any 42mm watch to get a feel for the size on your wrist.

Looking forward to bringing this VERY SPECIAL project to you all soon! Truth be told LACO, like many German companies, is not ever in any HUGE HURRY, so try to be patient guys and hang in there with us! For those with money already tied up in this it can't happen fast enough, thankfully most all of you guys are just waiting and don't have any skin in this game currently.

I'll keep you posted as things progress!

I'll do that James. I can't wait to find out!

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My main man and watch dealer (or is that crack dealer??? LOL...I LOVE watches...nearly as much as I love 928's!) should be introducing himself here soon (some know him already...he has posted more than a few times in the past) and he can probably help you out Rick if there is no one close to you that has Laco watches.

Take it away Chris! Give us an update as you have spoken directly to the LACO folks in Germany!

Hi guys,

This is amazing how much good feedback we are getting on this piece.
It really is going to be unique. Although the case is the sand blasted Laco case with large onion screw down crown, and screw down caseback, but the dial, hands, and strap are really going to set this watch off.
These three components (Hands, dial, and strap) are completely custom to this watch. Nobody has done it before or will use these.

I am waiting for a real confirmation date on receiving the dial so we can have a one off prototype. This way everyone can really see what they are buying.
It looks as though a realistic date for the watches to be complete and in hand is probably November.
I need to get the prototype, make sure its up to snuff, then give the go. If everything is good, delivery date would be earlier than November. but if there is something that needs changing (SuperLumi application, numbers, markers, etc) then they will need to make another dial.

The case is 42mm, but due to the bezel being on the thin side, and the dial being large, the watch "wears" larger than a 42. More like a 44mm. The dial diameter is larger than a lot of watch that are 44-45 mm with a thicker bezel too.
I wear my Laco's nearly everyday and think the sizing and the quality is awesome. I wouldn't stand behind it if I thought otherwise. And I strongly back this company. They make a great product.

--Crystal was set to be mineral (trying to keep the price at $500), but if the majority of you guys would like sapphire, it would probably bump up the price $75, I would be willing to oblige. But the retail
--Remember, we are trying to keep this as affordable as we can and delivery a great product without a distributor or anyone else in the mix.
This watch (in it's stock form) could easily fetch $695 on the retail market.
Movement IS an ETA 2824, as I have locked them in with Laco. No doubt we will have them for our watch.
--Strap is is going to be the Laco pilot strap in Black AND a custom Pierced leather strap (to match the seats) with red stitching to make the dial go POP :D. The bottom side of the strap will read "928 Limited Edition."
--The Packaging will be Laco and labeled Laco, so there is no doubt of the origin of the watch. It will not be the small box that I ship the watches in now, but a large Laco box that is delivered with the Date Delete Limited Edition I have.

A Quick recap:
42mm case
ETA 2824 movement
MADE IN GERMANY
2 straps
Custom dial, hands, caseback, and strap


Feel free to chime in with any questions you might have. I will be happy to answer them.

I will go through this thread and try to answer questions if any came up.
But for now, I need to get back to the family, it's my only day with them, and I need every minute of the day. :)

I want to thank James and RKD for all their help. This project would be dead without either one of them. I really mean it

And this is my car!
I have been losing sleep over this watch! I can't wait to see the dial completed.

The superlumi application on the exclamation point (white and red) is gonna make this watch!

Oh, here is my car :)

Chris, nice car, great watch, cute little girl.

Saphire is the only way to go on a watch like this. Mineral crystal, at least for me, will be scratched considerably by the end of year one.

I am happy to pay an extra $75 for saphire.

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Chris & James,

I'm in for Sapphire (my preference) if it works for everyone else. Thanks.

Do we have an estimated delivery date? Who do I place the order with?

Brian,

Looking at Nov as estimated deliver IF the dial comes in correct and needs NO CHANGES...IF we have to change the dial it would be Dec because the dial is the time consuming part to have custom made.

RKD has done a SPECTACULAR job with the dial rendering so if something is NOT RIGHT then it is LACO's fault not ours! So, lets go with the thought that they are going to get it 100% right out of the shoot and we will have these bad boys by Nov.

I agree w/ the other posters here that Sapphire is a good idea on a watch like this... That said, guys I am very hard on my watches and the mineral crystal on my two current LACO's has held up VERY, VERY WELL...better than all my other watches I think even!

Hi Guys; I've got to go with a sapphire crystal. Another $75 to $100.00 on a watch this "DISTINCTIVE" is well worth the few extra dollars in price. As a side note: my wife bought me a Rolex, sub-mariner over 30 years ago. She paid $400.00 for it then, same watch today is over $5600.00. This is an investment quality time-piece. For some of you guys sitting on the fence, I think that this watch will become an heirloom to pass on in the future. I know that in the business world, we men are judged by our taste in cars, women, and quality time-pieces. I think maybe it would be a good time to place a deposit, so that we may reserve a watch. I'am ready, PAY PAL, VISA, AMC. EXPRESS. I really want one of these watches, lets let the 911 snobs drool for while. Thanks, Joe

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I am interested, I just need to see the first prototype before I give a deposit. Will these be marked limited edition number i.e. 1 of x00?

I don't mind the $75.00 for real sapphire, but maybe others will? If so, there is also such thing as sapphire coated mineral crystal - which could be a good compromise?

I'm in for sapphire for another $75, it's a no brainer. That said, my daily Seiko Monster with a mineral crystal is still perfect even though the case has more than a few knocks. My 60 year old Wakmann has a new domed crystal now because the original was scratched so badly the watch was hard to read. Tough decision to replace it, but I'm glad I did. James let me know if/when you need the money and it's on the way.

Me too...In for an penny, in for a pound. :)

Count me in for the Sapphire upgrade as well, please.

Joe,

I could not have said it better! You are a man after my own heart!!!

Thanks so much for the support!

The sapphire is sort of like pennywise and pound foolish. We are in for the big time on this watch and despite what some might see as a steep price we are STEALING this watch... as Chris noted you can't touch this quality for this price.

Sweet928, yes, this is VERY, VERY limited! 150! That is IT! If it goes VERY WELL maybe we would consider a second run of a DIFFERENT watch of the same quality and style but still VERY limited!

Oh, unless I get #1 (and I am guessing Chris is getting #1) then #118 is taken by me! LOL! That is the final 3 digits on my '92 EURO GTS VIN! ;)

I also vote for the upgraded sapphire...... My new Cartier Pasha Seatimer has some type of blue stone in it and it really sets it off nicely.....& with the 928 watch at 42mm it fits nicely between the cartier at 40.5mm and the Panerai at 44mm

First, thanks to Chris, James, and RDK! I have followed this with interest for some time. I have had the pleasure of meeting Chris over the phone. Between that and what others have said about him, we are lucky to have him on this project.

I am in for a watch, and also for the upgrade to sapphire if that is what works for the majority.

Great job, can't wait for November!

One of life's great pleasures is driving a beautiful classic, having a fine looking lady on your arm; and wearing worn out levi's, flip flops, an old Polo shirt, Porsche cap, and a $ 5000.00 wrist-watch. The valet parking attendents here in Vegas always comment on my car, lady, and watch. They also keep the shark up front, with the other exotics. This watch will be another fine addition to my collection. I think by the pictures and quality of this watch, most people will think we paid over two thousand for one. James please let me know when you want some money. For the watch!! Thanks for all you and the others have done, Joe

If we do this, it's going to be a sapphire crystal, not a coated mineral (I don't have any detailed info regarding this procedure).
We just have to figure out if the majority of the people buying would not mind the bump in the price.
We need at least 30-40 buyers that are willing to go with the sapphire, then I will call and make the change.

James,
I think we are set to make this watch pretty Limited. The casebacks will be numbered 001/100.
And you will probably get #1 :) Maybe, possibly, could happen ;)

Thanks for the nice words, and believe me, I can't wait for this to be done.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that the dial will be exactly what i expect.
And from what I have seen from this company in the past, I am pretty confident the first try will be perfect.

If there is anyone "on the fence" about this watch and they want to see it in person, I have no problem sending one for you to see.
It would be my Laco Flieger auto, so you can see the size and how well made the watch actually is.
As long as the person I am sending it to has references here on the board, we can actually ship the watch around from member to member.

Let me know if you want me to do that. We can start tomorrow :)

I know that this is giong to be a great watch! I also know that after we get ours, there's going to be alot of pissing and whinning about how come you didn't make more for us ;to late on race day snivelers. If I can't get the first one, then I want the last one. I got the cash in hand. Thanks, Joe

Another vote for the sapphire crystal. :thumbup:

I think you are right. Once we get our hands on this prototype, GAME OVER!!! :D :D

Noted

This offer still stands :)

I'm in for the sapphire crystal as well. I'm really looking forward to wearing one of these babies.

OK. That picture of the Laco, on the wrist sold me. No need to send the watch to me as I know exactly what it looks like now....Plus that they will be marked as a series 1 of 1XX. Now I'm worried they are all going to be gone, so where do I send my deposit!

PS. Antireflective coating? (Would be nice)

PS2. Assume it will be marked "German Made" (at the 6 o'clock area) in small print - where it typically says made "Swiss Made" on other fine timepieces?

PS3. Anything special with the rotor? If it has the see through case back, would be great to have something engraved or decorated on the rotor? Just my 2cents.

Great work on this watch guys. This is a keeper!

If we can pick numbers, I would like #111. (My lucky numbers)

I'm in for the saphire and any other quality upgrades that make the watch as nice as possible.

Having owned 928s for at least 20 years, they area major part of my life. My kids have all grown up with a 928 in their lives and I'm pretty much that "928 guy" to people I know. Someday when I kick, a really nice 928 watch would be a very cool heirloom that reflects one of my hobbies. Give me the durable saphire though cuz' I plan on wearing this thing for a long time before the kids get to fight over it :roflmao::roflmao:

And James ! Thank you for spearheading this effort ! :bowdown::bowdown:

Ok, thanks :)

I am not going to have them put an AR coating, the coating tends to scratch.
Dial says Made in Germany :)
Rotor says Laco

We have decided on 100 units :) once we get a little further along, we will be "possibly" having the Rennlist crew pick the Limited Edition number of their choice. #1 and #100 are not available :D

Well if we are reserving numbers, I'd like to reserve #089 since my car's VIN ends with 0089 - that's just too good a match. Great job guys!

Oh, I forgot to mention, everything on the dial WILL glow it's color (including the orange hands :D

Here is a pic of the LE Flieger I have with it glowing. They glow extremely well.
And having the exclamation point glowing with the red background of the button and the RED LINE glowing red too is gonna be incredible!!!!

Driving me crazy! I hate waiting :( Really hate it

Here is the link to the LE on my site
http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/pr...roducts_id=992

http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/im...acoglowing.jpg

Looks like the camera was set at a .5 second shutter speed.

Ok, If it's going to be a run of 100 (and not 150); then (if possible) I'd like #28 -last two digits of my VIN#. Or #11 - still a lucky # for me. Or 79 for my MY. In that order. After that, I'll just take luck of the draw ;-)

Glad it will have "German Made" in the bottom.

No biggie on the AR coating. Just thought I'd ask.

I'm PSYCHED for the diff color Lume's (sp?)

Anything special or markings on the buckle? Assume Laco logo and assume it's a standard oversized type to match the case.

Not to throw more options at you guys, but anyone think about a % of the run in PVD? I want mine in regular brushed (blasted) steel, but alot of guys like their PVD too. Maybe some of you guys with black sharks will like theirs in a black PVD (extra) limited edition? Shouldn't be difficult for the supplier but surly an upcharge.

This string has gotten quite long. Couple of Q's.

1. Any new ETA on the first prototype?
2. When do we give deposits and to whom?
3. How much deposit is needed?
4. When is the watch expected to ship?
5. Do we get to pick our #'s?
6. Is it still coming with a winder (Saw that way back in the front of the string somewhere.
7. Does this watch come with the same warranty as "stock" Laco?

Thanks!

I would like the sapphire crystal also. Not sure if the numbers need to be under 100, if so I would like 087, if not 444 my VIN.

Thanks again to all who have made this possible.

Glenn

[QUOTE=sweet928;6803311]This string has gotten quite long. Couple of Q's.

Should be in my in my hands in 4-6 weeks
Deposits will be sent to me, not sure of when yet. Probably in about a month or so

I am thinking about a $150
If the dial goes as planned, I should have complete watches by the end of October.
Probably, but not 100% sure yet
It does not come with a winder, the idea was to have a winder at a significant discount from Wolf Designs, but that has not panned out yet, but still a possibility. But it will NOT be included in the price of the watch.
Yes :)
You're welcome :D

If we decide on everyone choosing their limited edition number, I will post it.
I am just concerned if everyone will be more happy with a random number.
I don't want any tension from members towards each other, with who wanted what number first.

I will keep you posted on this, but I think it is a GREAT idea to have you guys choose your numbers.

And I think we are leaning towards having the watch with the sapphire crystal.
This will make the watch $595 (apprx) instead of the $495-$525 we had planned on.
$595 will be for Rennlist members, if there are any left, the price will be higher for the remaining models. Probably $795 for anyone who doesn't get in on Rennlist. It is still a great value at $795.

I will keep you all posted as I get information from Germany

We have a handful that stated they want the sapphire crystal, but we need a good majority to be ok with it before we proceed with the Sapphire crystal.
I say we need about 30 people to get it rolling.

Set up a poll for Saphire or Mineral crystal.

Reads like you already have 30 for "$500+ Something highly limited and super cool"

So you are in the ballpark with about 1/3 of the voters. I'd say go with Sapphire.

This watch is really going to be awesome.... so you might as well make it awesome.....r ;)

Sapphire, for sure. After these watches are worn for a while everyone will be very glad these watches have a sapphire crystal. my 2 cents worth. Thanks Chris, Joe

928 OC Member
87 928 S4
Blk/Blk Auto
74 Pantera "L"
87 Monte Carlo SS Aero Coupe
84 SS El Camino
05 Tahoe "Wife's Ride"

Dibs on #36... :)

I want number 88 (plus the prototype :D )

I really think having all of you choose your number is cool.
We should do it, but not here on this thread.

We will need to organize this and have a deposit sent (Later)

I will have a spreadsheet with your name, deposit amount, limited edition #.
That will be the only way I guarantee who gets what number. I already have had several emails for the number that corresponds to the year of their car (Which is why I chose 88 :) )
6 people wanted it, I wont take it, just stirring stuff up :) 88 is available.
The only numbers not available are 1 and 100.

But we will organize this thing so there are no errors. And we can watch everyone else drool over our custom piece!!

Chris, James, and RDK, If anybody gets to pick a # it should be you 3. These watches wouldn't be made if not for all the time and effort you all have put into this project. I really don't care which one I get, only 100 of these watches are going to be made. There going to be like Hen's Teeth in the first place. Please make sure that my name is on the list. Thanks again, Joe

928 OC Member
87 928 S4
Blk/Blk Auto
74 Pantera "L"
87 Monte Carlo SS Aero Coupe
84 SS El Camino
05 Tahoe "Wife's Ride"

PS. I bought my Pantera new in 73 with my combat & reenlistment pay when I returned from my last tour in Vietnam. In all that time no one in POCA has ever mentioned producing a collectable wrist-watch.
Maybe in the future we could do something along those lines. (FWIW) Joe

It is well worth all the time, effort and money I spent on this.
I haven't been so excited about anything "watch" related in quite some time.
Thanks guys! Without all of you, it wouldn't happen.

James and I came to terms with what number he is getting. I think he is happy with the choice.
Now I need to figure out how to convince him to get ONE PER CAR!!!!

RKD can have any number he wants, he gets first dibs.

The winder that was mentioned previously is the Wolf Designs
It lists at $195 and I Might be able to offer it for $99 with the purchase of a Limited Edition piece.
I just haven't received the Ok from the factory yet.
But it still could happen, not sure how many of you would be interested, but I can push this issue a little harder to make it happen.
They make it black and brown only, the Tan one is no longer made

http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/im...olf15brown.jpg

Where the heck is James?

Sorry, I was out on a tour of most all of the D/FW Hooters locations today! Just getting my HOOTERS passport stamped for a few free 200 wing parties! We left at 8:30AM today and got back at 11:30PM tonight!

LONG DAY, but pretty damn fun!!

Chris, if we were doing like 118 or more I would want #118 to match my '92 EURO GTS, but we got it all worked out for sure! ;)

I will probably need a couple 3 of the winders for my various watches. Don't have a winder yet and need one already. Certainly will after I get this watch...though I will probably wear this one ALL the time so I ought to get a second one to keep one looking GREAT! Maybe #92 for the Euro GTS?! Hmmmm! :)

James FWIW I have a multi-watch winder and rarely turn it on any more, just a nice display case now. If I'm wearing a watch daily it won't run down. But I've found I enjoy getting a watch going in the morning, setting it and putting it on, part of the morning routine. The only way I would use the winder regularly was if I had an automatic with lots of complications, that was a lot of trouble to set. The only watch I have like that is a manual wind that I rarely wear, so I set it then. This one will get a good spot in the case, and will probably be worn a lot. Can't wait for it!

I had been ignoring this thread while I was unemployed. The thought of buying something this nice while sitting on my ass at home would not have gone over well at home with the wife.

But now that I'm back to work (albeit with a 40% pay cut,) I think I can justify a purchase like this.

So, what do I have to do to get on "the list".

I own a Wolf winder for my Breitling and can attest of the quality. I have owned a few different winders and the Wolf is by far the best.

Would it be possible to get the model with the lid though?

Like Andrew, I have tried to stay away from this thread :icon107:
But I guess resistance is futile :surr:

I put dibs on # 05 if at all possible

James, remember that I have control over much of your interiors :evilgrin:

Paul

Andrew,
Since these watches may not be available 'til Oct/Nov.... could make for a great Christmas gift. That's the angle I'm working with my wife. :rockon:

Chris, even though this is not the official "I want number...." venue, if possible I'd like number 007. Not because I am a Bond fan, but because I will consider myself lucky to own a nice watch like this that combines two great interests of mine.

Good morning all, Like Mark I too have a multi-watch winder, and use it for display more than anything else. I change watches about every other month. I wear my sub-mariner more than anything else, because it's so durable. To be honest I'll wear the shark watch when driving the car or for special ocasions. I don't want to beat this one up. All this waiting is killing me. I wanted this watch last month.
It would be nice if they become available by sharktoberfest.
BTW, James have you noticed that some people are already resorting to black mail? These things are gonna sell like crazy. Thanks again, Joe Norman

928 OC Member
87 928 S4
Blk/Blk Auto
74 Pantera "L"
87 Monte Carlo SS Aero Coupe
84 SS El Camino
05 Tahoe "Wife's Ride"

LOL! YES YOU DO!! :thumbup:

I think Chris will have the supply of watches when they come in so HE will have to be the one to send out the right S/N's to each person, but I have not seen anyone request #5 yet Paul! :)

Joe, I could not be more excited about a project! Ok, my 928 EVOLUTION DVD project gets my motor running too, oh, and so does the 928 Calendar project, but really this is the top of the top here! I love watches, and I love BOTH of my LACO watches, so having them do a Limited Edition 928 watch is just as good as it gets.

I still have 928 EVO DVD's left if any of you on this list have not picked up your copy yet. PM me for payment details. Thanks for the support and encouragement guys!

Would like a single digit number if possible, but will take what is available:) Thanks.

+1 :jumper:

I've never owned a fancy watch... as in better than a Seiko or Citizens. If there was ever a perfect watch for me, this is it!

I usually wear Timex just because they are so cheap, waterproof, and light up at night. When the battery dies, I toss it and pick up another for around $30.

If mentioning a number does any good here... I'd prefer #19 (my luck number), but understand if there is different protocol to number assignments.

Kurt,

If you like a watch that will light up at night you will LOVE this watch! Holy cow these things are bright! I LOVE MINE! One of my few watches that I can actually read at night!

Please put me down for one.:jumper: I've been watching this thread for a while now and looking forward to the final product.

The number requests begs the question of how it will be notated on the watch, such as:

1/100
001/100
1 of 100
#1 of 100

This may be important for picking a certain number like Dan's '007' request... just thinkin' out loud.

In addition to model year numbers ('78-'95), other significant ones come to mind:
2=S2
3=S3
4=4 speed (auto or manual), or S4
5=5 speed
8=V8 engine
16=16 valve OB engine
32=32 valve NB engine
last 3 of VIN (mine is 331, so no go)

Any other significant numbers out there to grab quick?

I just checked my notes, and I have the Limited Edition number as 001/100

So, 007 will definitely be worth a premium :D
You should want 31, the last 2 of your vin?

But we're not sure about picking the Limited Edition number yet

I do know James has a special number though :)

Hmmm...Dan, you apparently are aware that some fathers have a hard time saying, "No" to their daughters...I do, 'cause I have two!

I support Dan's request for 007 for his genuine ingenuity :)

Yes I know. I have two myself. One 30 yr old and one 1 yr old. You read it right. One was a big surprise. Can you guess which one? So I thought I'd use the emotional blackmail angle.

Darn Dan...hard to figure ;) Not to pull this O/T but...

Congrats to you!

By the way...Since somebody stole MY #001 (m/fer@#$^% ;) ) I'll be happy with any preferred model off the lot.

I'll use a more direct route:
I don't get my number, James ends up with some purple and yellow accents in the 1992 GTS :icon107:

Paul

If it hasn't been claimed yet - I request #13...:thumbup:

I know nothing about watches, but after doing a little research… this is a no brainier!

Oh yeah for what it is worth, I prefer the sapphire crystal as well.

Getting number 19 would be icing on the cake… second choice is 66.

I can’t believe I’m so excited about getting a watch… then again this one is going to be very special!

Kurt,

Glad to have you on board. This is going to be a VERY, VERY special watch! Certainly one that Porsche is never going to be making for us!

As you know from your research this watch is WAY under priced for what you will get!

I've requested #63...

I would like to request either 85 (1st choice - model year) or 36 (last two digits of the VIN).

Also put me in for the sapphire crystal.

Can't wait. This will be a real collector's item!

Let me know (PM) if these is anything else you need from me to confirm this order.

Thanks,
Bob

I'll be in for one. And request #69.....

Rich

If I may, I'm hoping for #90 (my year model).

Thanks for the creation of such a fine piece!

That's hard to say no to :)

You know, I was being a little PC by leaving that... ehem... 'lifestyle' number unmentioned...

But... the 928 forum is forum #69! No wonder we like the beer cold, the cars hot and our women hotter!

:D

Let's not get out of KonTrol with the "I want this number" posts :D

If we decide on it, I will need an email with the request. I wont be able to keep up here if everyone posts it on this thread

Just a quick FYI for those on the "fence" about this watch.
This is the factory selling a STOCK Laco for $490 Euro, which translates to approximately $710
http://www.lacher-shop.de/e_shop/pro...=9&language=en

AND THAT'S A STOCK PIECE!

You will be getting the pilots strap (Laco orig) AND the Limited Edition strap I had made in Europe.
I will have the pics of my strap In 2 weeks when it lands in my hands.

Trust me on this, it's a real NO BRAINER! :D :D

Rennlist member are being offered this $595 price, the price will be a bit higher when I take it elsewhere and advertise it, if I need to :)
i think they will all sell FAST. Just a hunch ;)

Chris,

You have a PM from me with regard to purchasing a watch.

Where do you want requests and deposits sent?

Paul

got it and responded :)

Hi Paul,
When that time comes, I will need a deposit with a CC or paypal. Either works for me.
I will post when the time comes to fork up some dough :D :D

Once I get my hands on the prototype and photograph the watch......
The pics below are just for reference, they are not of our new watch in any way. Totally different piece..
just showing my photography skills, if I have any ;)
GAME OVER!!! SOLD OUT!!!

Chris... not to nitpick (or pick nits... always mix those up ;)), but the link shows the watch with a date window...

Eliminating this complication would reduce the price, if I am correct. Also, the strap it comes with is not the same strap as shown earlier in the thread -post #194 (not referencing the custom strap). And, it already comes with a sapphire crystal front & back (lens).

I know its really late in the game to start over... but is Laco really giving you what you think they are with the price break you have been quoted?

Just for the sake of comparison with other pilot models on the site:

Pilot A or B; 42mm; Miyota automatic (Japanese); mineral crystal.........198 euros (~$286)
Pilot 42 Quartz; 42mm; quartz movement (battery); sapphire crystal.....350 euros (~$507)
Pilot Chrono Quartz; 42mm; quartz; chronograph; sapphire crystal........450 euros (~$652)
Pilot 36 Quartz; 36mm; quartz; sapphire crystal; smaller (women's?)....300 euros (~$434)

I am still anticipating the prototype... as it will definitely be cool! :D Perhaps the second run will use my rendering (post #188)! :thumbup:

The strap that is coming with the watch from Laco is the Black pilots strap. They have it pictured with the Brown. ( picture attached of the black strap that is coming with the watch from Germany)
The custom strap is another $49

We decided on having the watch without the date so the dial looks cleaner with no obstructions. The dial is going to be gorgeous, we didn't want a calendar window in the way.

And the other limited we did with the Date Deleted sells for more than with the date. I know, I sell them, and sell them well.
http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/pr...roducts_id=545

One more thing, the stock model they show, ONLY the hands glow!
On my other limited edition "Date Delete" model, all the numbers glow. (pic is below)

On our watch, Everything glows it's color. Each color demands a separate pass on the dial machine. Each pass costs money.

Absolutely!!

Quartz models are irrelevant as is the Miyota.
But, their qtz model is over $500!!! Bone Stock!
The observation auto is $710 plus duties.

I am still trying to figure out the debate here :)

The custom dial and hands, AND caseback that they are producing for us are expensive! It's not made in China. It's all being made in Europe.

The price of this watch is too cheap.

Take a look at ANY other brand REALLY MADE in Switzerland or Germany.
By REALLY MADE I mean, every aspect of the watch is from there.

Nobody I know of can compete with this product at the "stock price."

Hope that helps :)

http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/images/DSCN0844.jpg
http://www.valenciatimecenter.com/im...acoglowing.jpg

Oh, and everything that is "white" on our custom dial will glow like the pic above!
So, all the numbers (except the redline), Exclamation point, 928 Silhouette, will glow like that!^^^^^^^^^^^^ :D
The exclamation point background and redline digits will glow red.


Imagine if this was a 911 watch......there would be a billion people wanting one :)
The 911 was made in the 60's thru today....That would be a lot of possible customer's.

I bet a 100 911 watches would sell in 9 minutes :D :D

Barry, this watch will use a Swiss ETA automatic movement rather than the Miyota which by itself raises the price substantially. The other features Chris detailed raise it further, so we are definitely getting a good deal here. Awesome in fact!

Hi Chris, Now that everyone wants a watch, I've supported this project from the beginning. I sure hope I'am still on the list to purchase one. I'll send the full price now plus shipping to Vegas. I don't have a real preferance on a number, I would juss like to have a watch. Thanks ,Joe

:nono: :D

I guess the confusion is based on the site itself...

**The base model Pilot 42 Auto has a basic leather strap, not the pilot strap... that adds 49 euros to the base price. :eek:

**A movement without the date complication would cost less... so in reality, the date complication is still there -only covered up with a windowless dial (?)... extra money for an invisible feature. :rolleyes:

**The sapphire crystal is already included... so why does it cost more to have it? If switching to mineral drops the price by $100... what does switching to a different (no date) Swiss automatic movement drop the price to? :thumbup:

**Over 2/3 of the votes are for $425 or less.......... but our choices are $495 or $595... :confused:

**A 911-based watch... sure, it would move 10x more watches than a 928. Car sales figures would show that to be true. And a mass-appeal 'Porsche' watch would move 100x as many watches too. I understand your point, but not really in context here... :nono:

Don't get me wrong here... I own 3 Breitlings, 2 Raymond Weils, and an assortment of other odds 'n ends watches, including an original pilot watch (earlier in thread) from WWII. The only Rolex I would ever own is a serti with sapphire marked 2-tone Submariner -but I'd still rather have my Breitlings. Rolex is too prideful when it comes to pricing and dealer relations/contracting and they are too lax in design (too similar to models from 30 years ago).

I am just inquiring about Laco's commitment to provide you a good deal here.

Ok,

I am getting a lot of Pm's and emails with requests, so i figured.....
Let's do this once and do it right :)
To everyone on board buying one of these, let's reserve your number now.

Email me, not PM.

Email to:
Chris@ValenciaTimeCenter.com
Subject : 928 Watch Number Request

1)Name
2)Username here on Rennlist
3)Your Email address (if you want to use an alternate)
4)Requested Limited Edition number (If not available, I will notify you via email)

Thanks guys

Email sent - You instruction don't include what what number is requested. Should be step #4 perhaps.

Email sent

Paul

fixed

#3 twice ?!? :roflmao:

Where? ;)

I'm tired, I work too much, cut me some slack :)

I was a few seconds toooo slooow for your edit fix!

Yes, I did edit fix it.
I had #3 2 times
I guess I will reserve 33 for me :D
3)
3)

The real question is not the fact that the date is removed, it's the fact that the DIAL is custom. They do not just plug up that hole. The dial is being made for this watch, the price would be the same with or without the date ( I checked about this long ago, if we kept the date window, would the price be lower, they said no).
The dial was going to be custom either way.

The sapphire crystal is included in their stock $710 model, ours is $595 fully custom with the sapphire crystal.
It was going to be $495 without it. They used to offer without the sapphire, and listed it 100 euro less than the sapphire model.
This is new since the last month or 2.
All the watches on my site are without the sapphire crystal.
It is still an option with the Laco factory as my last contact with them yesterday.

The only movement they use in this model is the 2824 that I am aware of.
The date is there, just covered up by the dial.

I couldn't get this watch done at the $425 price that was posted in this thread at the beginning. The price wasn't engraved in stone, we just tossed it out there. We were just ballparking the price point.



point taken

I did shop around with other German manufacturers, best deal was Laco.
I feel we are getting a good deal on this watch.
You may feel otherwise, which is fine.

A little research would prove that this is a great price for a custom watch made in Germany.

I didn't proof read this yet, so be kind.
I haven't eaten lunch yet :) It's almost 4 and I'm ready to tip over :D

I'll be back later

So far, everyone has the Limited Edition numbers they requested.

Thanks

I'm in. Email sent. :)

I'm in too. Email sent.

I just spoke with Chris on the phone, and all of my points of concern have been laid to rest :) There has been a lot of communication between he and Laco on the details, price and production timeline that he has graciously sheltered us from.

It sounds as though if someone wants some real drama... just call Laco! Wow.

Anyway, another major point in this being a stellar deal is the custom case that the watch is delivered in (that had slipped my mind), and will definitely show up on the pro side of a pro vs. con comparison.

Thank you Chris (James & RKD as well) for being behind this effort... I can't wait to see it! :thumbup:

Got em all, thanks guys :)

So far, everyone got their first choice

Nice talkin to ya Barry!!

Email sent.

Bob

got all the emails, thanks guys

If nobody wants 88 I'm gonna snag it, since James snagged #001 :D

If anyone wants it, email me, I'm last on the totem pole (that's what James tells me :( )


James!!! Where's my DVD!!!!
It's been 10 hours (at least) and I don't have it yet! :D :D

Email sent.
.

Well....Chris, since you asked:)

My VIN last four are 9701...so 01 is out. If 88 is available I would be all over it...but I certainly appreciate your time and effort in this venture. I'll leave it to your better judgment. I request 88 otherwise I'll consider whatever is left.

A member since 2001, how can one say no :D :D

It's yours, send me the email so I have it in my semi-organized file :)
i don't want to make any errors or forget anyone

Chris, I am really falling down on the shipping here! I think you have actually had a watch to me in about 10 hours from the time I requested it! I have not had as much practice at shipping stuff as you have!

It will go out Monday (I will need to go to the post office with your box as well as another DVD for a member in Norway!)

We are up in the 20's for reserved Limited Edition numbers.

Anyone else? Send me an email if you are interested

James - can you post a pic of the final watch, perhaps add it to the first post of this thread?

Some of us may not have been reading this thread as it progressed and missed the final design (I'm on of 'em).

Thanks.

Randy,

Look at the avatar in the post just above yours and you will see the watch face as we have it now. We do not yet have a prototype of the watch so there is no "real" picture of it yet. Hoping to have that in a few weeks...

Is Germany back from summer recess yet?

doubtful...give them another week or TWO!

Here is a pic of the dial, and the case that we are using.
Also the black pilot strap is coming with the watch along with a 928 Limited Edition strap from Europe that I had made for this watch.
Pierced leather on top (To look like the seat texture) with red stitching and Aero comfort holes on the bottom for ventilation.
I will try to post a pic of the hands, and I will have a picture of our custom strap in a few weeks (I should have them in my hands in a couple of weeks)

Everything on the 928 watch dial will glow it's color (white superlumi actually glows green)
Hands are Orange like the gauge needles

Here are the hands

Hour and Minute hands are Orange Superluminova, the second hand will black with a white (superluminova) tip :D (Picture shows the second hand orange but that has since be corrected)

Yes, pretty sure, as we have been communicating the last couple of days.

We have been ironing out some things (like the hands) to make sure the prototype comes in CORRECT!

Here is an early rendering of the custom strap.
I don't think I even showed this the James yet! (sorry James)

It has changed a bit, but you can get the idea :D

This is gonna be a hot watch!!

Getting close to a final design? I mean damn, Porsche didn't put 26 pages worth into the 1978 928.

It took only 25 pages pages to make the 928...THE watch requires 26 :p

All of the major elements are pictured above, although most are CGI images (except the watch).
The real deal prototype should be in our hands next month.
Don't know the exact day, mid September prototype, productions pieces 4 weeks later if all goes as planned.

hands
 

Hmmm, Looks like the hands changed. The early rendering of the watch in this string had more tapered hands and the hour had a white tip too. I think someone mentioned they were custom and exclusive hands. Has that changed? These seem off the shelf now. I could be wrong but seems like standard hands to me....Also, the circles at the base of each hand were (early in this string) black like 928 gauges and not orange as the hands you just posted. If you look at 928 speedo, tach, etc, they have a straight needle and the base where they are attached is black not orange. See enclosed for example. Any way to keep that same look as our 928's? I know its nit picking, but the devil is in the details.

I do like how the hands extend back out the other side of the mounting circle. That is very 928'ish. I just think the orange circles are not quite right. Will the seconds hand circle cover the hour and minute hands and achieve the right look?

Still completely custom and match the needles on the early cars... the earlier pictured hands actually were a match for the later cars... Just getting everything to match up properly. The later cars don't have the "!" button on the dash either.

Don't get me wrong, I love this watch. The ! is icing on the cake. Cant wait to see it glow in red! Just wonder if the black second hand base will cover the orange circles -- so you just see straight "needles" and not orange circles. Such a tiny detail but I think worth mentioning. Really cant wait. There is a open spot on my 8 watch, watch winder for this piece!

That is a good point... the regular hands on the watch have black bases and there is no reason these can't have that too (just to be SURE the round "base" is blacked out...) I agree that they round base should not be seen in orange...

I was thinking about the orange circles too, I need to make sure they are black.

And the circle on the second hand will be black as well.

FYI: The hands are DEFINITELY not off the shelf, they are from a custom drawing by a member here.
Transferred to an illustrator which I then forwarded to Germany.

Germany actually almost kicked them out because we forgot the center cut out point of the hands, we made them solid, they had to make the hole for mounting them on the hour and minute wheels.

I like them, I will go look at my needles when I get to check accuracy. If we need to change anything in this hand design it MUST be by Monday

Sorry, When I did the artwork I did not know the hands needed any circles or what size the circles needed to be. I would have made them black if I had.

OT hijack.
Sweet928, is your alternator outputting right?


Can't wait to see a final prototype now that Germany is back from summer recess. Hope they get everthing set up before Oktoberfest hits.

No Sorry needed RKD!! Your time and effort were unmatched.
The only reason I mentioned that a memberdid the work is to show they were not "off the shelf."
And I didn't think we would have needed to make the circle cut outs, I thought they would do it since they are manufacturing them and they know the size.

Once again, THANK YOU for your help.

Re: Alternator
Thanks for pointing this out. I get a intermittent low voltage when idling. Have not checked it out yet. When driving it registers between 12-14 volts, but when I come to a stop it sometimes drops off and then pops back up with a rev of the motor. Any ideas? It has a new alternator and wiring harness put in by the PO about two years ago.

Test the electrical system with a digital volt meter. Car's V meter is only good for a trend/general diagnoses.
Start a new thread or search the 928 electrics thread here to figure out what's loose or dying.
Idle is probably the lowest output stage of the alternator and can be overwhelmed by the car's electrical draw. The twin cooling fans kicking in on the S4 makes my voltage needle twitch.

Are there any of these watches left?

Don't even have the prototype yet... review the last 5 or so pages.

Yes. They have not yet all been spoken for. I suggest you get on the list soon though!

I think I'm gonna need two. One to show off in the box and one to show off on my wrist.

Guess Laco doesn't make desktop travel clocks or you can add one to replace the 928 clock.
:p

RKD, what is wrong with us... two for me too! ;)

Actually, I wouln't mind a nice dashboard clock.
Jaeger-LeCoutre does the dashboard clock for Aston Martin and Breitling makes the dashboard clocks for Bentley.

....... OK, that might be overkill :rolleyes:

Paul

Well, I only have one 928 so far. I do however have a desk drawer with 5 of the exact same discontinued Rotring multi-pens new in the box.

RKD, you and I are cut from the same cloth my man! Some might call us OCD, they clearly don't understand though! ;)

Barry, message #340 suggested that they may be already spoken for.

Chris, I shall pm you with my preference.
Cheers,
Willber

I have 22 numbers reserved.

Everyone got the first number they chose.

Email me if you want to reserve your Limited #

Only 100 watches being produced, in case you didn't go through this entire thread.

Yes, the watch is made in Germany

ONLY 2??? :D :D

Should be ONE for each CAR!

Edit: The last 2 of my VIN are 06, so I am reserving that number.
but if a member here really wanted it they can have it :)

Yea, man if I bought one for each of my cars I'd be even broker than I am! Lets see, that would be S/N 80 (for when I am in the race car), 81 (when I am feeling blue...LOL!), 82 (when I am at a concours w/ Blue82), 84 (when I am feeling like driving a red car), 88 (when I just need Bwwwwaaaaa! That car sounds SOOO GOOD!), 92 (for most of the time...I just love my 92!), 94 (when the great white shark needs to be released from its tank!)... ha ha! I could suck up 7% of the total production just to keep up with my cars! LOL!

You know that is NOT a bad problem to have! With registration costing $55/year and insurance (on average across all my 928's) costing $250/year, you just can't have enough 928's really! ;)

Oh, I understand now... the large Game Over!!! Sold Out!!! comment kinda' threw me as well... until I re-read it.

He meant that once everyone sees the prototype, they will be sold out. I'm sure Chris has one allocated for you too. :thumbup:

Yes, I have one allocated for both of you :)

So far we are up to 27 members here that have reserved a number.

James, call me a party pooper but I have already heavily bribed Chris for this number ;) . I can't go into details but it wasn't cheap. That guy is hard core!

Despite that, if that number is on your wish list, I will happily relinquish it to you. Without your efforts, combined with others, this "limited and unique" opportunity wouldn't exist.

Mike,

No problem man! It is all yours! 88 IS my favorite number and I DO HAVE an '88 S4, but 92 is MY NUMBER! I am getting things to go with my Euro GTS because it is so unique and frankly if all my cars had to go away, that one would be the last to go or would probably NOT even go! I'd rather sell a body part! Hell, I don't use about 2/3rds of them anyway, so what the heck! LOL! (For those of you who don't know...just to keep this short and explained...I am in a wheelchair, T5/6 Spinal Cord Injury... most of you probably already know that but SOMEONE ALWAYS PM's me after a statement like that! LOL!)

So, who's getting number 88???

Oh, and my daughter says hi :D

Odometer: 42,671 miles and counting

Chris,

I didn't realize your car was so low miles! VERY NICE dude! Very nice! Cute daughter too!

Thanks for the props on the DVD btw too! Glad you enjoyed it!

Oh, #88 goes to Mike B!

ok, I pm'd you James to reserve one. Will have to think about a # to request, then hope it's not already taken!

Oh wait, what about #59, is that taken yet? If not, its one of the main Brumos Racing #s, would work for me just fine if its still available. Also is my year of birth too!

Dude, you missed the driveway. :D

Miranda says Hi right back!
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...100_2463-1.jpg

59 is spoken for :(

Yes, I am trying to take care of the "low miles" issue :D

Let me know a number and I will check if it's available

Awesome pic!! What a cutie :)