Abby Normal

Except for their 'big guns' then they use turbos. Wonder why that is?

worf928

For the beginning driver - that is a driver who has never had instruction - almost any 928 will have far higher limits than the driver. $5k or $10 or $20k spent on mods for a newbie driver who's all a$$holes and elbows when it comes to driving will end up in a ball of twisted metal on the side of the road or the side of the track.

Once the driver's talent is equal to the car, then yes, mods are in order. On the flip side - no pun intended - in my experience the "white" group in PCA has more wrecks per lap than any other group. Even the green-bean-newbies have fewer. And it is the folks in the white group that have progressed to the point where they think their talent is in excess of the car's and have started with the mod fever.

Bottom line: For the beginning driver $3k spent on a driving school - where you get to thrash someone else's car - will result in a faster lap time than $3k spent on mods. And that driver will be far, far, safer on the road too.

worf928

Packaging would be a good bet I think.

All this discussion of which is better has not touched on the packaging issue in 928s. (AFAIK, as I rarely can make it through these threads once the pissing contests start.)

From my standpoint, packaging and ease of future maintenance is way more important than which system is theoretically "better" in terms of hp/$, or thermo efficiency, etc.

aggravation

Just make sure your car is already putting out all it can without mods first and then drive it a while and be sure you really want more.
I say this as a rookie supercharged 928 owner because I finally have a car that can go too fast...that is a strange feeling.
Before with every car I ever had it was floor it and see what it will do. Now it's decide just how much of the monster to let out of it's cage when a go-fast moment arises.
Oh yea, one more thing, tires cost money and you'll need some fatter ones, god knows I do already. I never thought I'd see the day when the car is running great but I can't go out for a drive because of tires!!!

blown 87

That will go away soon enough, power is addictive and you will soon gain tolerance to the power level you are at now.

I do agree 100% that in most cases there is still a bit of power left by making the car right, and it better be right before you boost it.

hacker-pschorr

Like the McLaren SLR

nsantolick

Didn't Toyota use BOTH a turbocharger and a supercharger on one of it's factory mass produced MR2's?

Just curious if anyone has done that to a 928??? I believe their reasoning was that the supercharger gave instant power as the turbo(s?) spooled up.

I also think there was some Ferrari with 4 turbos, in banks of 2. Larger versus smaller. Something like that.

Not trying to complicate things. Well, maybe I am. Just am curious if anything in "that" direction has been done on a 928? I doubt I'm doing anything, except perhaps a plain old low end out of the box supercharger running lowish boost...

Can't be any crazier or difficult than that "thing" the German guy has on youtube, where he made a 928 into a pickup truck with 6 wheels...

Anyway, just was curious as to any really crazy complicated installations...

Abby Normal

I was thinking of the SL65TT but there is the big SC gun from them also, you win.

Hilton

VW have been making a twin-charged version of the Golf (called the Rabbit in the US?) for a couple of years.. The "Golf GT Tsi" - has a 1.4 litre supercharged and turbo'd engine that puts out 167hp and 177ftlbs, from 1.4 litres!

Looking at the options for engine bay space, anyone reckon there's space in the nameless one's twin turbo engine bay to fit most of a murf kit in there too with a bit of shuffling intake pipes?

hacker-pschorr

I hope you know I'm just playing along.

Your car is one sweet *** ride, now that the engine setup is in the right hands.


C'mon, give me a reason to pull out my trump card, the Koenigsegg

dprantl

From a purely packaging standpoint, it's hard to beat a TS kit. It replaces the intake manifold and takes up virtually no extra space at all. As an extra bonus, I can remove the throttle, ISV and TPS switch in 30 seconds flat For peak power potential, turbos will always win due to less parasitic loss.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

dprantl

Yeah, but what about those freaks that want their Ford GT40 to go even faster than it already is? They take out the S/C and slap on twin-turbos for over 1000hp. I was actually very surprised that the Koenigsegg, being swedish, has a supercharger. The swedes love turbos.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

AO

Hey... I'm Swedish.

Hell, my kids are named Sven and Lena (but we spell it Lina). I knew Supercharging was the way to go. It's in my genes.

hacker-pschorr

Hennessy sells a kit which leaves on the supercharger and adds twin turbos!

Twin superchargers (round things with the horns)

FUSE69

Lysholm (AKA Twin screw) supercharger.... Patented around 1935 by a Swede, Alf Lysholm... well before any swedish car manufacturer toyed with turbos...