Quick question: Where to buy an engine stand
03-20-2009, 12:26 PM
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Quick question: Where to buy an engine stand
A quick question: Where to buy an engine stand that works well with 928's engine? Preferrably quickly, in MA? (I am having a burnt down "practice" engine delivered this afternoon.)
03-20-2009, 12:27 PM
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03-20-2009, 12:37 PM
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Be careful. A complete 928 engine weighs ~580#. I had one that had a capacity of 575# and it was freigtning.
I replaced it with one with a capacity of 1200# and twin legs and it seems just big enough.
I replaced it with one with a capacity of 1200# and twin legs and it seems just big enough.
03-20-2009, 12:39 PM
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Harbor freight, and do NOT get the cheapest one. I bought one a few years ago and its kind of scary with a 928 engine on it. I recently bought two of their midrange units and they are great. They fold up for storage and still only cost about 120 each if I recall.
If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.
If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.
03-20-2009, 12:48 PM
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If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:
http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358
Though that price is nearly $100 more than I paid in December. Weird.
It makes engine disassembly a piece of cake, just turn the crank and voilia, there's your bottom end. More importantly, no drama when rotating a very top heavy S4 motor. The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.50 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available M10 x 1.50 bolt you're likely to find:
EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution!
If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:
http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358
Though that price is nearly $100 more than I paid in December. Weird.
It makes engine disassembly a piece of cake, just turn the crank and voilia, there's your bottom end. More importantly, no drama when rotating a very top heavy S4 motor. The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.50 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available M10 x 1.50 bolt you're likely to find:
EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution!
Last edited by Rob Edwards; 03-23-2009 at 06:23 PM. Reason: Got bolt thread wrong!
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03-20-2009, 01:22 PM
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Thanks.
Why is the Sunex 1000lb better than Harbor Freight 2000lb?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=4420
Is "just" the gear ratio or is there something else that is important?
Forgive my stupidity, what is "Tass?"
Why is the Sunex 1000lb better than Harbor Freight 2000lb?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=4420
Is "just" the gear ratio or is there something else that is important?
Forgive my stupidity, what is "Tass?"
Tuomo-
If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:
http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358
The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.25 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available fine pitch M10 bolt you're likely to find.
EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution!
If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:
http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358
The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.25 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available fine pitch M10 bolt you're likely to find.
EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution!
03-20-2009, 01:35 PM
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The advantage of the geared stand is that you can turn the motor with one hand. I've never used any other stand so I can't comment on how hard it is to manually rotate an S4 motor but I read a few comments in the archives that made me splurge on the Sunex stand. I have no idea how they come up with the ratings they do, I'd hate to see the 'load to failure' testing....
An issue regardless of any stand you use: The upper bellhousing bolt holes are fine-pitch threaded- M10x 1.50. The lower bellhousing bolt holes are thru-holes, unthreaded. For the uppers you will need 100 or 120 mm long M10x1.50 bolts assuming that the standoffs on the stand are not more than 50-60 mm long. Any longer than that and you'll have trouble getting enough threads engaged to safely hold the motor. The lower holes you can use anything that'll fit through a 10mm hole. I ended up having to use allthread since the Sunex stand standoffs are ridiculously long. OTOH, I can get at the flywheel bolts without any problem.
Tass is a who, not a what. Exit 4 off the 'Pike. See post 4.
The advantage of the geared stand is that you can turn the motor with one hand. I've never used any other stand so I can't comment on how hard it is to manually rotate an S4 motor but I read a few comments in the archives that made me splurge on the Sunex stand. I have no idea how they come up with the ratings they do, I'd hate to see the 'load to failure' testing....
An issue regardless of any stand you use: The upper bellhousing bolt holes are fine-pitch threaded- M10x 1.50. The lower bellhousing bolt holes are thru-holes, unthreaded. For the uppers you will need 100 or 120 mm long M10x1.50 bolts assuming that the standoffs on the stand are not more than 50-60 mm long. Any longer than that and you'll have trouble getting enough threads engaged to safely hold the motor. The lower holes you can use anything that'll fit through a 10mm hole. I ended up having to use allthread since the Sunex stand standoffs are ridiculously long. OTOH, I can get at the flywheel bolts without any problem.
Tass is a who, not a what. Exit 4 off the 'Pike. See post 4.
Last edited by Rob Edwards; 03-23-2009 at 06:25 PM.
03-20-2009, 01:40 PM
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I was dumb, thanks!
Oh, I missed that. Thanks you very much for the offer! I would rather not borrow your stand the stand because this is "practice" engine that will likely be on the stand for a long time until the "real" engine comes of the car after which the "practice" engine goes back on. So I will be keeping the stand occupied for a long time now, and I would feel uncomfortable borrowing something for such a long time. If you're interested in selling either of yours, I am all ears! Thanks again for the offer.
Harbor freight, and do NOT get the cheapest one. I bought one a few years ago and its kind of scary with a 928 engine on it. I recently bought two of their midrange units and they are great. They fold up for storage and still only cost about 120 each if I recall.
If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.
If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.
03-20-2009, 04:23 PM
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03-20-2009, 04:29 PM
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Oh, I missed that. Thanks you very much for the offer! I would rather not borrow your stand the stand because this is "practice" engine that will likely be on the stand for a long time until the "real" engine comes of the car after which the "practice" engine goes back on. So I will be keeping the stand occupied for a long time now, and I would feel uncomfortable borrowing something for such a long time. If you're interested in selling either of yours, I am all ears! Thanks again for the offer.
03-20-2009, 04:46 PM
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Cambridge, MA. If you got the bolts, I am a buyer. Does the stand fit on the back seat of a 5-series bimmer? PM me, please.
How far from me are you? If I'm closer than an H-frieght store I'll sell you one of mine. 100 bucks is fine...I'll throw in the bolts. I just had a period where I had engines all over the place. I don't expect to have a continued need for two stands. Right now I don't need any.
