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ptuomov 03-20-2009 12:26 PM

Quick question: Where to buy an engine stand
 
A quick question: Where to buy an engine stand that works well with 928's engine? Preferrably quickly, in MA? (I am having a burnt down "practice" engine delivered this afternoon.)

hacker-pschorr 03-20-2009 12:27 PM

Harbor Freight

Earl Gillstrom 03-20-2009 12:37 PM

Be careful. A complete 928 engine weighs ~580#. I had one that had a capacity of 575# and it was freigtning.
I replaced it with one with a capacity of 1200# and twin legs and it seems just big enough.

Tass 928 03-20-2009 12:39 PM

Harbor freight, and do NOT get the cheapest one. I bought one a few years ago and its kind of scary with a 928 engine on it. I recently bought two of their midrange units and they are great. They fold up for storage and still only cost about 120 each if I recall.

If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.

ptuomov 03-20-2009 12:45 PM

Thank you!

OBehave 03-20-2009 12:46 PM

If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.[/QUOTE]

Does this mean the never been on the track car smokes the tires??:burnout::burnout:

Rob Edwards 03-20-2009 12:48 PM

Tuomo-

If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:

http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358


Though that price is nearly $100 more than I paid in December. Weird.


https://webfiles.uci.edu/redwards/pu...2012-31-08.jpg

https://webfiles.uci.edu/redwards/pu...ide%20view.jpg

It makes engine disassembly a piece of cake, just turn the crank and voilia, there's your bottom end. More importantly, no drama when rotating a very top heavy S4 motor. The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.50 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available M10 x 1.50 bolt you're likely to find:

https://webfiles.uci.edu/redwards/pu...2012-14-08.jpg

EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution! :cheers:

ptuomov 03-20-2009 12:50 PM

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=4420

More help needed. What bolts work with this stand?

ptuomov 03-20-2009 01:22 PM

Thanks.

Why is the Sunex 1000lb better than Harbor Freight 2000lb?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=4420
Is "just" the gear ratio or is there something else that is important?

Forgive my stupidity, what is "Tass?"



Originally Posted by Rob Edwards (Post 6401065)
Tuomo-

If you're buying a stand to use 'for the long haul', I would invest the extra cash in a geared rotatable stand like so:

http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=38358

The downside is that you'll need to source some M10 x 1.25 mm allthread to make up bolts to mount the motor, as the standoffs on the stand are longer than any available fine pitch M10 bolt you're likely to find.

EDIT: If Tass is nearby that is certainly the best solution! :cheers:


robot808 03-20-2009 01:32 PM

Tass (noun) an extremely generous person who has offered you the use of an engine stand.

Rob Edwards 03-20-2009 01:35 PM

Tuomo-

The advantage of the geared stand is that you can turn the motor with one hand. I've never used any other stand so I can't comment on how hard it is to manually rotate an S4 motor but I read a few comments in the archives that made me splurge on the Sunex stand. I have no idea how they come up with the ratings they do, I'd hate to see the 'load to failure' testing....


An issue regardless of any stand you use: The upper bellhousing bolt holes are fine-pitch threaded- M10x 1.50. The lower bellhousing bolt holes are thru-holes, unthreaded. For the uppers you will need 100 or 120 mm long M10x1.50 bolts assuming that the standoffs on the stand are not more than 50-60 mm long. Any longer than that and you'll have trouble getting enough threads engaged to safely hold the motor. The lower holes you can use anything that'll fit through a 10mm hole. I ended up having to use allthread since the Sunex stand standoffs are ridiculously long. OTOH, I can get at the flywheel bolts without any problem.


Tass is a who, not a what. Exit 4 off the 'Pike. See post 4.

ptuomov 03-20-2009 01:40 PM

I was dumb, thanks!
 
Oh, I missed that. Thanks you very much for the offer! I would rather not borrow your stand the stand because this is "practice" engine that will likely be on the stand for a long time until the "real" engine comes of the car after which the "practice" engine goes back on. So I will be keeping the stand occupied for a long time now, and I would feel uncomfortable borrowing something for such a long time. If you're interested in selling either of yours, I am all ears! Thanks again for the offer.


Originally Posted by Tass 928 (Post 6401017)
Harbor freight, and do NOT get the cheapest one. I bought one a few years ago and its kind of scary with a 928 engine on it. I recently bought two of their midrange units and they are great. They fold up for storage and still only cost about 120 each if I recall.

If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.


Tass 928 03-20-2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by OBehave (Post 6401058)
If you want to borrow one I'm in Springfield MA. Both of mine are empty right now.

Does this mean the never been on the track car smokes the tires??:burnout::burnout:[/QUOTE]

Almost there...engine is in the back of my truck, hoping to get it dropped in this weekend!!

Tass 928 03-20-2009 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by ptuomov (Post 6401306)
Oh, I missed that. Thanks you very much for the offer! I would rather not borrow your stand the stand because this is "practice" engine that will likely be on the stand for a long time until the "real" engine comes of the car after which the "practice" engine goes back on. So I will be keeping the stand occupied for a long time now, and I would feel uncomfortable borrowing something for such a long time. If you're interested in selling either of yours, I am all ears! Thanks again for the offer.

How far from me are you? If I'm closer than an H-frieght store I'll sell you one of mine. 100 bucks is fine...I'll throw in the bolts. I just had a period where I had engines all over the place. I don't expect to have a continued need for two stands. Right now I don't need any. :p

ptuomov 03-20-2009 04:46 PM

Cambridge, MA. If you got the bolts, I am a buyer. Does the stand fit on the back seat of a 5-series bimmer? PM me, please.


Originally Posted by Tass 928 (Post 6401956)
How far from me are you? If I'm closer than an H-frieght store I'll sell you one of mine. 100 bucks is fine...I'll throw in the bolts. I just had a period where I had engines all over the place. I don't expect to have a continued need for two stands. Right now I don't need any. :p



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