Parts supplier troubles - what would you do?
#121
Wow, you guys sure make 928 ownership a joy with your quick generalizations. I was a little ticked off with my part, and you can see from my initial post that I DID NOT identify the original part seller. Clear on that, everyone? I'm not out to make enemies. I sell MY OWN cars out of my house, and I clearly show all the plates in all the pics I have of MY OWN cars on MY OWN website. I'm just an enthusiast that wants to try every car out there before I shuffle off this earth. I make very little on the sale of my cars, and most of them I lose money on. But yes, they are all my own cars.
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
What you failed to mention in your posts was how Rog went above and beyond what ANY parts supplier would do, from overnighting a new part, to sending you a FREE window so possibly get a new customer before all of this went wrong. Re-read some of these posts and you might get a more clear understanding of how wrong you were.
#122
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My experience is that each and every one of the 928 parts suppliers operating in this space do-so with integrity. Those of us that purchase from them do also. On the rare occasion of a misstep it gets exposed and solved. And yes, that is a community approach.
Compared to everything else I've owned, these cars are particularly tricky to diagnose and repair. Expensive, too
I can't imagine carving-out much in the way of "joy of ownership" without the high performance collaboration we have going here between suppliers and owners. On top of it, we have a few owner-inventors and supplier-racers that have created solutions to fundamental design problemsm, plus, created electronic tweaking tools and performance-boosting kits.
The community is educated, welcoming but tight, and operates with integrity. It will expose seeming inequities and debate them. Guess you learned that. There is not a lot of room here for bs that hints of integrity problems within the group.
Good luck with the car. Hope if you flip it you do so to a person that understands how complex and expensive they are to continuously maintain.
Compared to everything else I've owned, these cars are particularly tricky to diagnose and repair. Expensive, too
I can't imagine carving-out much in the way of "joy of ownership" without the high performance collaboration we have going here between suppliers and owners. On top of it, we have a few owner-inventors and supplier-racers that have created solutions to fundamental design problemsm, plus, created electronic tweaking tools and performance-boosting kits.
The community is educated, welcoming but tight, and operates with integrity. It will expose seeming inequities and debate them. Guess you learned that. There is not a lot of room here for bs that hints of integrity problems within the group.
Good luck with the car. Hope if you flip it you do so to a person that understands how complex and expensive they are to continuously maintain.
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wow, he sure glossed over that car sale operation in a hurry. Seems to me that if you sell cars, then you sell cars and should follow the rules that apply to protect those who buy cars! Doesn't matter if its a home/hobby business - certainly the buyer of a car, for whom these various laws are designed to protect, could give a sh*t if the seller is selling as a hobby or otherwise....Not good.
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You've got to admit he's got "cajones" for coming back... most would have never showed up again except for Low Miler... Hey you don't suppose they're related, do you?
#127
Wow....can't believe I finally found the end of this thread...
With Rog; if you install within a day or two after you receive the parts, you'll know if there's a problem before money has left your bank, based in the relaxed way he invoices. How many of our other fine suppliers give you goods based on a virtual hand-shake?
And BTW: How about no "re-stocking fee" for parts hastily ordered from Roger. Come to think of it, I have a batch to send back. Well, time to get greasy again....
After a good relationship I winced with regret as devek went down, not knowing the full story. But with no offense meant to anyone, please tread carefully before pillorying Roger.
With Rog; if you install within a day or two after you receive the parts, you'll know if there's a problem before money has left your bank, based in the relaxed way he invoices. How many of our other fine suppliers give you goods based on a virtual hand-shake?
And BTW: How about no "re-stocking fee" for parts hastily ordered from Roger. Come to think of it, I have a batch to send back. Well, time to get greasy again....
After a good relationship I winced with regret as devek went down, not knowing the full story. But with no offense meant to anyone, please tread carefully before pillorying Roger.
#128
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This has nothing to do with "the Porsche community" or 928 owners.
You bought a part that worked
You had it installed separately
It worked
It then failed in short order
Did your installer break it?
Did you break it?
Perhaps it was defective.
You asked for a replacement part and you got it.
Now you want payment for your lost wages, your tooth ache, your scraped dash as your installer installed the item, your shirt you bought cause you had to drive to the post office to send the item, your packaging, shipping, gasoline, phone calls.
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
You bought a part that worked
You had it installed separately
It worked
It then failed in short order
Did your installer break it?
Did you break it?
Perhaps it was defective.
You asked for a replacement part and you got it.
Now you want payment for your lost wages, your tooth ache, your scraped dash as your installer installed the item, your shirt you bought cause you had to drive to the post office to send the item, your packaging, shipping, gasoline, phone calls.
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#129
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Gee - I thought Randy had closed this one out already - we haven't been relieved of our "Moderator Maximus" have we...?
Randy - say it aint so...?
Alan
Randy - say it aint so...?
Alan
#130
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"Ever since you changed my oil, my glove box light stopped working"
Every day, over and over......
#131
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Wow, you guys sure make 928 ownership a joy with your quick generalizations. I was a little ticked off with my part, and you can see from my initial post that I DID NOT identify the original part seller. Clear on that, everyone? I'm not out to make enemies. I sell MY OWN cars out of my house, and I clearly show all the plates in all the pics I have of MY OWN cars on MY OWN website. I'm just an enthusiast that wants to try every car out there before I shuffle off this earth. I make very little on the sale of my cars, and most of them I lose money on. But yes, they are all my own cars.
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
Your lazie-faire attitude on dealer responsibilities is enough to get me to make a phone call and file a complaint.
Cheers
#132
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Wow, you guys sure make 928 ownership a joy with your quick generalizations. I was a little ticked off with my part, and you can see from my initial post that I DID NOT identify the original part seller. Clear on that, everyone? I'm not out to make enemies. I sell MY OWN cars out of my house, and I clearly show all the plates in all the pics I have of MY OWN cars on MY OWN website. I'm just an enthusiast that wants to try every car out there before I shuffle off this earth. I make very little on the sale of my cars, and most of them I lose money on. But yes, they are all my own cars.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
I don't care if you sell cars in CA without a dealer license, but the state will care. You're going to have to answer to them for that.
As for being prickly, I'm guilty. My entry into this community was a bit harsh. I had a rough go of it for a bit, but we've gotten straightened out ok, and now it's all good. If you come here and complain, bash a vendor(unjustifiably), and hide your true position, you're gonna take some heat. If you come here and ask questions about the marque and model, then contribute with tech, or other details, you'll be welcome with open arms.
So far your account is in the red, badly overdrawn. You asked a question about what to do with a vendor that you have a disagreement with. We told you, now deal with that. It's up to you what to do about your situation from here.(hint - an apology would be the appropriate way to start)
<edit: Oh, and joining rennlist would also make us a lot happier, that is - if you really care about the Porsche community. However, I think you're a one-hit wonder on many forums, cruising along, gathering info, but providing nothing of value to the people who help you.>
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Wow, you guys sure make 928 ownership a joy with your quick generalizations. I was a little ticked off with my part, and you can see from my initial post that I DID NOT identify the original part seller. Clear on that, everyone? I'm not out to make enemies. I sell MY OWN cars out of my house, and I clearly show all the plates in all the pics I have of MY OWN cars on MY OWN website. I'm just an enthusiast that wants to try every car out there before I shuffle off this earth. I make very little on the sale of my cars, and most of them I lose money on. But yes, they are all my own cars.
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
And I sent the engine out to the east coast on that S600 to be rebuilt, and got burned. I hadn't realized how bad it was until Jay pointed out the errors of the rebuilder I chose on his video of the restoration of that car.
I'm a little gun shy when it comes to dealing with bad suppliers and bad mechanics. Like you all, I just want a little justice from time to time, as I have a very limited budget to work with.
The whole Honda S600 experience left a bad taste in my mouth, and I was glad to let Jay finish the car with his unlimited experience and funding.
I'm beginning to feel the same way about the Porsche community. Remember the old joke? What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
I never really believed that old saw, until now.....
Yer still a weasel.
#134
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WTF Randy? It's not like you to stoop this low, you are a freeking moderator!!! What has this forum come to?
How can you expect anyone to respect this place with you making comments like that? This isn't OT yea know, it's not "anything goes" here in the 928 forum.
I mean come on - to compare this guy to weasel's?? What did those furry little animals do to you? I bet you have never even met a weasel. Take it back, the weasel population does not deserve this type of criticism.
You are better then that!!
Now apologize to snowflake:
How can you expect anyone to respect this place with you making comments like that? This isn't OT yea know, it's not "anything goes" here in the 928 forum.
I mean come on - to compare this guy to weasel's?? What did those furry little animals do to you? I bet you have never even met a weasel. Take it back, the weasel population does not deserve this type of criticism.
You are better then that!!
Now apologize to snowflake:
#135
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AWWW
That is a cute little guy Hacker! Your right, what did the weasel ever do to deserve to be compared to his goofball. (I dare someone to post a pic of i nice furry "goofball")
That is a cute little guy Hacker! Your right, what did the weasel ever do to deserve to be compared to his goofball. (I dare someone to post a pic of i nice furry "goofball")