Is Your Early Model 928 a 'Flasher'?
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Is Your Early Model 928 a 'Flasher'?
I've yet to get a definitive answer on this.
Most cars, when you pull back on the spring return turn-signal stalk, will illuminate the headlights as long as you have the stalk pulled back - usefull in a variety of driving situations.
On My '79, the turn-signal stalk can be pulled back, however nothing is illuminated, regardless of lighting configuration (i.e. headlights on lowbeam/fogs off, parking lights on/headlights off, etc.)
I was working up in the forward area this weekend retrofitting my puny 7" headlights and chrome trim ring to the 8" lights. I noticed that the electrical connector plug for the white driving lights (aka parking lights) has three prongs, but only two are used. I'm assuming the third prong is to supply power to the driving lights when the stalk is pulled back to the 'flash' position. I could find no unused wire that would connect to this third prong.
Does your early (let's say '78 - '84) model 928 have a working 'flash'?
Was this feature deleted in early US models? If so, can it be restored, and if so, how?
Thanks lads.
Most cars, when you pull back on the spring return turn-signal stalk, will illuminate the headlights as long as you have the stalk pulled back - usefull in a variety of driving situations.
On My '79, the turn-signal stalk can be pulled back, however nothing is illuminated, regardless of lighting configuration (i.e. headlights on lowbeam/fogs off, parking lights on/headlights off, etc.)
I was working up in the forward area this weekend retrofitting my puny 7" headlights and chrome trim ring to the 8" lights. I noticed that the electrical connector plug for the white driving lights (aka parking lights) has three prongs, but only two are used. I'm assuming the third prong is to supply power to the driving lights when the stalk is pulled back to the 'flash' position. I could find no unused wire that would connect to this third prong.
Does your early (let's say '78 - '84) model 928 have a working 'flash'?
Was this feature deleted in early US models? If so, can it be restored, and if so, how?
Thanks lads.
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My '79 Euro is not only a flasher but the center flasher lights illuminate when the high beams are on. I think the combined wattage is around 520 watts on high; 100 watts each high beam, 100 watts each flasher, and 60 watts each for the fog/running lights. My 928 illuminates the road like an off-road rally car.
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My '79 Euro is not only a flasher but the center flasher lights illuminate when the high beams are on. I think the combined wattage is around 520 watts on high; 100 watts each high beam, 100 watts each flasher, and 60 watts each for the fog/running lights. My 928 illuminates the road like an off-road rally car.
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Since it's a euro I'm not surprised Jim. I'm thinkin' that this was deleted on US-spec vehicles due to some archaic DOT requirement in effect back then.
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Pattycakes the 82'Weissach , Auto., is flasher equiped. Might have been a feature on the Weissach edition, but, I thought all sHARKs were.
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Pattycakes the 82'Weissach , Auto., is flasher equiped. Might have been a feature on the Weissach edition, but, I thought all sHARKs were.
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My lights flash by pulling on the stalk only if the lights are up and on. What it will do is cut off the fog lamps (i run them all the time) and flash hi-beam from the main headlights. I have retrofitted (courtesy of a PO) 8" lights.
I wish mine would flash the foggs when lights are down, but we cant have everything.
My lights flash by pulling on the stalk only if the lights are up and on. What it will do is cut off the fog lamps (i run them all the time) and flash hi-beam from the main headlights. I have retrofitted (courtesy of a PO) 8" lights.
I wish mine would flash the foggs when lights are down, but we cant have everything.
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The Euro model also allows you to drive with your high beams (center most lights in bumper and main headlights on Hi) and fog lights on (some have 1 or 2 red fog lights in rear bumper) at the same time. However, the owners manual recommends you only drive like this for brief periods of time since it places a heavy load on alternator, battery and wiring.
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Both my '84 and my '87 act the same for flashing:
With the headlights off (down), the driving lights illuminate for as long as I pull the stalk back. When I push forward to turn on the brights with the headlights on, the high beams come on and I think they cut off the driving lights.
-Jonathan
'94 968
'87 928S4
'84 928S
'72 911T
'02 WRX
With the headlights off (down), the driving lights illuminate for as long as I pull the stalk back. When I push forward to turn on the brights with the headlights on, the high beams come on and I think they cut off the driving lights.
-Jonathan
'94 968
'87 928S4
'84 928S
'72 911T
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Randy,
According to the wiring diagrams for your YMM car: the lever, which lets you activate your high and low beams, is also your flasher switch. That flasher switch is connected to a head light dimmer relay #XIV. Check the # 2 fuse/ 16 amps, which is also part of that circuit. You can have a bad dimmer relay or flasher switch. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> The headlight dimmer relay also feeds fog light relay.
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According to the wiring diagrams for your YMM car: the lever, which lets you activate your high and low beams, is also your flasher switch. That flasher switch is connected to a head light dimmer relay #XIV. Check the # 2 fuse/ 16 amps, which is also part of that circuit. You can have a bad dimmer relay or flasher switch. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> The headlight dimmer relay also feeds fog light relay.
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[quote] My lights flash by pulling on the stalk only if the lights are up and on. What it will do is cut off the fog lamps (i run them all the time) and flash hi-beam from the main headlights. I have retrofitted (courtesy of a PO) 8" lights.
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My lights are the same, and mine are ummodified, US spec.
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My lights are the same, and mine are ummodified, US spec.
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Thanks Steve - I'll check that out.
Can I assume that if my fog lights are operational that it is not the dimmer relay, based on your explanation?
Can I assume that if my fog lights are operational that it is not the dimmer relay, based on your explanation?
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Randy,
The head light flasher works like this: head light on and raised, pull lever to the spring loaded position towards steering wheel and release. Your headlights should flash. Daylight running: head lights off and down, pull lever and release. Your fog lights should flash. What I meant was the dimmer relay feeds the fog light relies, letting you flash the fog lights. The fog lights have their own relay and power source. The dimmer relay just let’s you active the fog lights (via fog rely) like a second fog light switch.
I would start by checking and cleaning all the ground wires especially the ones underneath the dashboard. Pull and reinstall the relay to clean the spades. Also check for corrosion on the relay spades. This is not an easy circuit to diagnose. The dimmer rely is the primary relay for the flasher switch.
You have:
-Headlight dimmer relay
-Dimmer head light/flasher switch
-Fog light relay
-Head light relay
-Head light control relay
-Concealing headlight relay
-Head light safety relay
-Fog light switch
-Head light switch
Good Luck,
Steve C.
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The head light flasher works like this: head light on and raised, pull lever to the spring loaded position towards steering wheel and release. Your headlights should flash. Daylight running: head lights off and down, pull lever and release. Your fog lights should flash. What I meant was the dimmer relay feeds the fog light relies, letting you flash the fog lights. The fog lights have their own relay and power source. The dimmer relay just let’s you active the fog lights (via fog rely) like a second fog light switch.
I would start by checking and cleaning all the ground wires especially the ones underneath the dashboard. Pull and reinstall the relay to clean the spades. Also check for corrosion on the relay spades. This is not an easy circuit to diagnose. The dimmer rely is the primary relay for the flasher switch.
You have:
-Headlight dimmer relay
-Dimmer head light/flasher switch
-Fog light relay
-Head light relay
-Head light control relay
-Concealing headlight relay
-Head light safety relay
-Fog light switch
-Head light switch
Good Luck,
Steve C.
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OK Steve - I'll proceed along those lines and see what I find.
Thanks to you and and youse other guys for your feedback!
Thanks to you and and youse other guys for your feedback!