1000 HP FITTING PICTURES !!!!!
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alexs brother has just bought a supercharged bread van and i havent heard from either of them for a couple of days, they must be either in hospital taking dinner through a straw or simply wreaking havoc around the streets of greenwich! power is nothing without insanity eh? ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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All I can say is that this must be joke.
To even entertain the idea of this engine making 1000 hp w/o major internal mods is a pipe dream.
I have built ++++++ 1000 hp nitrous engines as well as ++3000 hp nitro coupe engines and coming from experience the ring lands are not going to handle the cylinder pressure required. The rods are not going to hold the bearings are going to get pounded it may split a cylinder wall. The list can go on and on
Not to mention the head flow. Granted this is a 4 valve but does it flow over 340cfm on intake along with a + 250 on the exhaust? I doubt it seriously.
I don't care how advanced you think this system is it is still just a solenoid(s) controlling nitrous flow and fuel flow. I have used many progressive controllers and it doesn't matter how soft you think your system is going to hit you are still flowing fuel and nitrous Oxide. The engine still has to hold up to the flow and added pressures.
If you doubt my credentials feel free to google "Jim Nordhougen nitro coupe" or call John at NX and tell them Sid said to call and ask about the plate/ nozzle small block alcohol setup.
You my friend are going to go through a real steep learning curve and I really hope you are looking a t a throwaway engine b/c that is what it is, especially if you are _already _ having blowby issues.
Here are a few tips as to how to actually do it.
H-beam rods
good pistons with lower ring lands
cylinder head that will flow over 340cfm intake more if possible
Copper head gaskets with oringed block
solid deck
good cam design with wide lobe centers
timing at about 18 degrees total
many more items that are tedious.
Just because you have 8 solenoids means absolutely nothing if the engine can't handle the added stress.
To make big HP the engine needs to be built for it.
sorry but this is BS and truly dumb
FYI am am not a 928 owner but I do respect all cars. It is just that these claims of adding 1000 hp with a super duper Nitrous system on a super duper Porsche engine is ridiculous.
BTW there are plenty of dynos that can handle the power you are claiming. At 3000 not so many but at the levels you are dreaming of they are bountiful. May I suggest a 1/4 mile run and use teh trap speed that is usually a very good indicator of HP. My last street car dynod 1140 and went 168 @ 3300 #'s. The nitro coupe was never dynod but did go 232 in the quarter.
Have fun but please go get a reality check.
To even entertain the idea of this engine making 1000 hp w/o major internal mods is a pipe dream.
I have built ++++++ 1000 hp nitrous engines as well as ++3000 hp nitro coupe engines and coming from experience the ring lands are not going to handle the cylinder pressure required. The rods are not going to hold the bearings are going to get pounded it may split a cylinder wall. The list can go on and on
Not to mention the head flow. Granted this is a 4 valve but does it flow over 340cfm on intake along with a + 250 on the exhaust? I doubt it seriously.
I don't care how advanced you think this system is it is still just a solenoid(s) controlling nitrous flow and fuel flow. I have used many progressive controllers and it doesn't matter how soft you think your system is going to hit you are still flowing fuel and nitrous Oxide. The engine still has to hold up to the flow and added pressures.
If you doubt my credentials feel free to google "Jim Nordhougen nitro coupe" or call John at NX and tell them Sid said to call and ask about the plate/ nozzle small block alcohol setup.
You my friend are going to go through a real steep learning curve and I really hope you are looking a t a throwaway engine b/c that is what it is, especially if you are _already _ having blowby issues.
Here are a few tips as to how to actually do it.
H-beam rods
good pistons with lower ring lands
cylinder head that will flow over 340cfm intake more if possible
Copper head gaskets with oringed block
solid deck
good cam design with wide lobe centers
timing at about 18 degrees total
many more items that are tedious.
Just because you have 8 solenoids means absolutely nothing if the engine can't handle the added stress.
To make big HP the engine needs to be built for it.
sorry but this is BS and truly dumb
FYI am am not a 928 owner but I do respect all cars. It is just that these claims of adding 1000 hp with a super duper Nitrous system on a super duper Porsche engine is ridiculous.
BTW there are plenty of dynos that can handle the power you are claiming. At 3000 not so many but at the levels you are dreaming of they are bountiful. May I suggest a 1/4 mile run and use teh trap speed that is usually a very good indicator of HP. My last street car dynod 1140 and went 168 @ 3300 #'s. The nitro coupe was never dynod but did go 232 in the quarter.
Have fun but please go get a reality check.
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Well maybe thats because you don't own a 928.....the 928 owners may call me nuts but do take me seriously
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As you have obviously not read the whole thread....fyi....I used to be a Top Fuel Crew Chief , so I know a little about engines
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You can have your opinion and I will have mine...I may be nuts (a lot of people say so) but stupid I am not....
As far as Nitrous is concerned you are basing your judgments on American systems NOT...the Wizards of Nos system that I will be using, you have NO idea of the capabilities of it ...and its years or even centuries ahead of NX and Nos...if it wasn't why do you think they not only get Trevor Langfield to ADVISE them but also have both sold his parts because they have nothing like them....
You may be right that my engine will blow.....even I suspect it may but so what..
Race it
Break it
Fix it
Repeat...
Oh and before you talk about rods etc...buy a 928 or at least learn what 928 engine parts are capable of...
All the best Brett
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Please just make sure you document what size oriface you are at when it completely goes BOOM.
Good luck with your super duper nitrous system.
BTW no need to be completely familiar with the super 928 engine (It is a nice piece to 600hp) to know the limitations of the pistons, head gaskets, and headflow. Do you even realize how much volume of the intake tract the fuel and nitrous alone are going to use at the levels you are presenting??? I do not believe you do, otherwise you may realize you would need much more to flow the type of HP you are looking at. No matter what the system it sill takes "X" amount of nitrous and "y" amount of fuel to attain the proper a/f ratios and you will have not even half the flow to avoid an intake explosion!!!!
Have fun but please make sure to bring a truck when you attempt this feat![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Good luck with your super duper nitrous system.
BTW no need to be completely familiar with the super 928 engine (It is a nice piece to 600hp) to know the limitations of the pistons, head gaskets, and headflow. Do you even realize how much volume of the intake tract the fuel and nitrous alone are going to use at the levels you are presenting??? I do not believe you do, otherwise you may realize you would need much more to flow the type of HP you are looking at. No matter what the system it sill takes "X" amount of nitrous and "y" amount of fuel to attain the proper a/f ratios and you will have not even half the flow to avoid an intake explosion!!!!
Have fun but please make sure to bring a truck when you attempt this feat
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here is a link to a youtube vid of the tog gear jag with nitrous : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-VkNnxkW2U i dont think bretts stated aim is to produce 1000 bhp from a stock 16 valver, rather its to crack 200 mph and then some - i dont think that needs 1000 bhp?
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here is a link to a youtube vid of the tog gear jag with nitrous : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-VkNnxkW2U i dont think bretts stated aim is to produce 1000 bhp from a stock 16 valver, rather its to crack 200 mph and then some - i dont think that needs 1000 bhp?
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You are correct, if I can do it with 500 or 700, thats fine but its nice to have a little extra if needed lol.....
All the best Brett
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here is a link to a youtube vid of the tog gear jag with nitrous : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-VkNnxkW2U i dont think bretts stated aim is to produce 1000 bhp from a stock 16 valver, rather its to crack 200 mph and then some - i dont think that needs 1000 bhp?
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here is a link to a youtube vid of the tog gear jag with nitrous : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-VkNnxkW2U i dont think bretts stated aim is to produce 1000 bhp from a stock 16 valver, rather its to crack 200 mph and then some - i dont think that needs 1000 bhp?
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WADE T + 1 !!!
this was humorous for me until the "years in advance of american systems"..
ARE YOU FUKN SERIOUS????
do you really think that your NOS system is some cutting edge, never before seen, think tank invented horsepower monkey????
aside from your 1000HP brain dead shot, i have yet to see anything space age aside from the brilliant decision to screw your bottles down to the back of your SEAT and NO ROLL CAGE !!!!!!
i wish you all the best and a VERY safe ROCKET RIDE. i just hope that you don't make the Darwin Awards....![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
this was humorous for me until the "years in advance of american systems"..
ARE YOU FUKN SERIOUS????
do you really think that your NOS system is some cutting edge, never before seen, think tank invented horsepower monkey????
aside from your 1000HP brain dead shot, i have yet to see anything space age aside from the brilliant decision to screw your bottles down to the back of your SEAT and NO ROLL CAGE !!!!!!
i wish you all the best and a VERY safe ROCKET RIDE. i just hope that you don't make the Darwin Awards....
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Just sayin'....