Tony

Being from england, that made me chuckle.! A bread van!

Bill Ball

Yes, toe should be zero to slight negative; definitely not positive.

blown 944

All I can say is that this must be joke.

To even entertain the idea of this engine making 1000 hp w/o major internal mods is a pipe dream.

I have built ++++++ 1000 hp nitrous engines as well as ++3000 hp nitro coupe engines and coming from experience the ring lands are not going to handle the cylinder pressure required. The rods are not going to hold the bearings are going to get pounded it may split a cylinder wall. The list can go on and on

Not to mention the head flow. Granted this is a 4 valve but does it flow over 340cfm on intake along with a + 250 on the exhaust? I doubt it seriously.

I don't care how advanced you think this system is it is still just a solenoid(s) controlling nitrous flow and fuel flow. I have used many progressive controllers and it doesn't matter how soft you think your system is going to hit you are still flowing fuel and nitrous Oxide. The engine still has to hold up to the flow and added pressures.

If you doubt my credentials feel free to google "Jim Nordhougen nitro coupe" or call John at NX and tell them Sid said to call and ask about the plate/ nozzle small block alcohol setup.

You my friend are going to go through a real steep learning curve and I really hope you are looking a t a throwaway engine b/c that is what it is, especially if you are _already _ having blowby issues.


Here are a few tips as to how to actually do it.

H-beam rods
good pistons with lower ring lands
cylinder head that will flow over 340cfm intake more if possible
Copper head gaskets with oringed block
solid deck
good cam design with wide lobe centers
timing at about 18 degrees total

many more items that are tedious.

Just because you have 8 solenoids means absolutely nothing if the engine can't handle the added stress.

To make big HP the engine needs to be built for it.

sorry but this is BS and truly dumb


FYI am am not a 928 owner but I do respect all cars. It is just that these claims of adding 1000 hp with a super duper Nitrous system on a super duper Porsche engine is ridiculous.

BTW there are plenty of dynos that can handle the power you are claiming. At 3000 not so many but at the levels you are dreaming of they are bountiful. May I suggest a 1/4 mile run and use teh trap speed that is usually a very good indicator of HP. My last street car dynod 1140 and went 168 @ 3300 #'s. The nitro coupe was never dynod but did go 232 in the quarter.

Have fun but please go get a reality check.

hacker-pschorr

Nope, this is a 16V engine using the same head that is on a 944 (well, almost the same).

This engine also has cast pistons, not even the forged units the 951 comes with.

blown 944

Ha ha now that is even more comical.

I really can't believe that anyone is taking this seriously

Brett928S2

Hi

Well maybe thats because you don't own a 928.....the 928 owners may call me nuts but do take me seriously

As you have obviously not read the whole thread....fyi....I used to be a Top Fuel Crew Chief , so I know a little about engines

You can have your opinion and I will have mine...I may be nuts (a lot of people say so) but stupid I am not....

As far as Nitrous is concerned you are basing your judgments on American systems NOT...the Wizards of Nos system that I will be using, you have NO idea of the capabilities of it ...and its years or even centuries ahead of NX and Nos...if it wasn't why do you think they not only get Trevor Langfield to ADVISE them but also have both sold his parts because they have nothing like them....

You may be right that my engine will blow.....even I suspect it may but so what..

Race it
Break it
Fix it
Repeat...

Oh and before you talk about rods etc...buy a 928 or at least learn what 928 engine parts are capable of...

All the best Brett

blown 944

Please just make sure you document what size oriface you are at when it completely goes BOOM.

Good luck with your super duper nitrous system.

BTW no need to be completely familiar with the super 928 engine (It is a nice piece to 600hp) to know the limitations of the pistons, head gaskets, and headflow. Do you even realize how much volume of the intake tract the fuel and nitrous alone are going to use at the levels you are presenting??? I do not believe you do, otherwise you may realize you would need much more to flow the type of HP you are looking at. No matter what the system it sill takes "X" amount of nitrous and "y" amount of fuel to attain the proper a/f ratios and you will have not even half the flow to avoid an intake explosion!!!!

Have fun but please make sure to bring a truck when you attempt this feat

Done

Bill Ball

Sid: Don't confuse this with realilty!! If all we did around here was deal with reality, we would be horribly depressed.

drnick

here is a link to a youtube vid of the tog gear jag with nitrous : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-VkNnxkW2U i dont think bretts stated aim is to produce 1000 bhp from a stock 16 valver, rather its to crack 200 mph and then some - i dont think that needs 1000 bhp?

Brett928S2

Hi Nick

You are correct, if I can do it with 500 or 700, thats fine but its nice to have a little extra if needed lol.....

All the best Brett

blown 87

He is trying to do both.

bcdavis

Great video to demonstrate the point of what he's trying to accomplish...

I am guessing that the 928 is a better starting point than that beat up old Jag...

Z

Actually, I think the numbers mentioned were 1,350hp and 220mph, not that it's probably going to matter.

AO

Remind me... when is this all going to happen?

SharkSkin

Those of us who have been reading between the lines have surmised that Brett is going to be using a system with continuously variable nitrous flow, as opposed to most if not all current nitrous systems that just slam a solenoid open for full flow. In that sense, the system DOES sound far more advanced than what is commonly available here.

Just sayin'....